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| Quote ="griffax"I admired what Shad said on Radio Cas tonight, he pointed out that they lost as a team, Ben didnt cost us the game & he can hold his head up high. He said that the penalty count didnt do us any favours & we seemed to make more mistakes ont he back of that.
Im proud to support Fax, even more so after tonight. :isoijoczIt's not sour grapes, it's the fact that it wasnt a fair contest due to the man in the middle.[/
I dont get it, if you make sure your onside every play the ball and get up quick at every play the ball you will be ok. If you pass the ball backward you will be ok.. This is sour grapes as the ref is not allowed to be biased for god sake imagine if anyone found out he was!, Halifax had chances end of, you never took them and we did. Black as we all no did "that error" but it was 70 other minutes that cost you so stop blaming the ref it getting as boring as me trying to wind you all up about widnes being a better team than fax by a country mile
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| Quote ="pinballwizzard"webster is bob. Black is 10 times the player webster is. webster is passed his hull kr best.
thackery was the massive difference and scored two brilliant individual tries.'"
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| Quote ="Cartman"3'"
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What did I say he scored two of...tries, or brilliant individual tries?
His first was bursting onto a good pass from 10 yards out.
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| Quote ="pinballwizzard"Der...
think again.
What did I say he scored two of...tries, or brilliant individual tries?
His first was bursting onto a good pass from 10 yards out.'"
They looked brilliant to me
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| Its like attempting to teach Neitzsche to a bleeding spatula.
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| Quote ="blue&whitearmy"Castleford Wanted him, but he chose to resign with us shows someone thinks he is good enough for SL!!'"
Harlequins also thought that Sam Thompson and Mick Nanyn are good enough for SL so that means nothing.
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| Quote ="faxtastic"ben is younger than webster, scores more tries than webster, is quicker than webster, and ben will play in super league eventually, when he is on form he is electric.'"
BUT....
James Webster will be playing at Blackpool ...Black won't !!!!!!!!!
That's all that matters today.
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| Quote ="chippo"BUT....
James Webster will be playing at Blackpool ...Black won't !!!!!!!!!
That's all that matters today.'"
Yes, he will (if 'Fax reach the finals of the 9's competition!)
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| Shame for the lad. It was game over if he'd walked that in as Widnes had folded just like they did at Batley. They couldn't contain a team on the front foot. When Royston scored the try that eventually gave Fax the lead the Widnes players were bent over blowing it out of their ar5e5. On the day I think Websters kicking was far better. I think Blacks first decent kick resulted in a try for Royston but that must have been nearly an hour into the match.
How many times did Fax kick out on the full and also bomb chances particularly the 2 on 1 with Penny? Good exciting game and a shame someone had to lose but as the prize was a day out at Blackpool I wouldn't feel too depondent because it really is a h0le.
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| Quote ="Standidge"Simple fact. If any Widnes fan say they would rather have old ginger than Ben Black they know nothing about the game of rugby league.
No dount they will say that webbo 'directed them round the field'. Er no he dropped off single balls to single hit ups. Very creative half back!!!
Dream on, any club in Championship and plenty in SL would take Ben Black on at a moments notice. Your lot tried hard to get him a while back, along with Penky and Greenwood. All three sat down and decided if one stays they all stay. And where are they? Not at the halton/stobart/naughton community park!!!!
And you can keep morrison, looked nothing today. IO'd rather sign Laughton. In either form Ronnie or Doug'"
NO they decided to pen their deals for the Halifax local skip instead......you cheeky
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| Quote ="spanishbob"There is nobody beating Ben Black up more than Ben Black. He needs to put a line under it, it happened and he cant do anything about that. All he can do is have the best game of his life next week.'"
Just spoke to Ben in the Ivy House and he is gutted. I just basically said the same to him as you have posted. He will get over it and so shall we. Fax will be back.
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| Really feel for Ben. Obviously everyone is gutted that was the moment to take us to the final. He would of scored in that situation 999 times out of 1000 it is just so unfortunate it happened at such a crucial moment in such a big game.
We are all gutted but seeing Ben's face at the final whistle said it all for me. Whatever anyone is feeling towards Ben now in terms of anger or disappointment his face definately showed me that he is more angry and disappointed in himself than anyone.
The guy looked close to tears which illustrates the passion he has for this team.
Let's back him, he has been immense for us this year. It just wasn't our day today - clearly the destiny is to win the grand final!!
We will have much bigger games than that later this year so let's take today as a learning curve. Fantastic atmosphere, just a shame we couldn't have pulled it off. I think the south stand roof would have come off had Ben gone over for that try!!!
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| I reckon we'd have gone on and scored more from then on we were tearing them to pieces at this point. But that gave Widnes a renewed optomism and the pendulum swung dramatically back to them. They are an improved team and will probably go and win the NRC now imo but I still think we are the top team in this league and that doesnt change anything.
Head up Blacky lad you will show them
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| Good words those.
I dont think anyone has any bad feelings at all towards Ben - he is a brilliant player and a top guy who wears his heart on his sleeve. He was obviously gutted, devastated.
We are all behind ben 100% - but he has to come back from this and redouble his efforts, as do the whole team.
He just had a "halifax" moment!
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| Quote ="spanishbob"There is nobody beating Ben Black up more than Ben Black. He needs to put a line under it, it happened and he cant do anything about that. All he can do is have the best game of his life next week.'"
Spot on that mate, chin up Blacky lad you could have been our hero, it happens and I am sure you will never do that again ever.
It seemed from about the 10th minute like it just was not going to be our day today, and it wasn't.
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| never mind big laaaaad blckpool is a s//t hole and its a tin pot cup we will win the league and the play off final and ben black will be the man to win it for us come on fax don't let your heads drop
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| Quote ="bulls hater"never mind big laaaaad blckpool is a s//t hole and its a tin pot cup we will win the league and the play off final and ben black will be the man to win it for us come on fax don't let your heads drop'"
You are right we were on a Stag Do in Blackpool yesterday and it is just a crass place, just good for Stag and Hen parties.
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| its only fit for stag do's and dirty scousers
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| Quote ="billyfax"Still better then any player on the Widnes team.
What about they way we cut you up in the first half and dropped the ball on three occasions. So i wouldn't say he was the only one who cut you up.
Goddard tore you up down the left twice in the first half.
At the end of the day we didn't take our chances, so cost ourselves a vistory. Widnes can't look at any of that game and say we could have scored here or there as you took all your chances. Fair play to you, you won but that's about it. Nothing for fax to fear at your place or in the playoffs.'"
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| Quote ="billyfax"Still better then any player on the Widnes team.
What about they way we cut you up in the first half and dropped the ball on three occasions. So i wouldn't say he was the only one who cut you up.
Goddard tore you up down the left twice in the first half.
At the end of the day we didn't take our chances, so cost ourselves a vistory. Widnes can't look at any of that game and say we could have scored here or there as you took all your chances. Fair play to you, you won but that's about it. Nothing for fax to fear at your place or in the playoffs.'"
Incorrect what about TKL'S inside ball to Dodd under the sticks dropped, And Penny caught in two minds failing to take on the full back with his pace and then passing from the ground after being tackled, also must say your 3rd try had just a slight hint of obstruction in it's build up, widnes were'nt great technically today, but were better than fax and the scoreline flattered fax in my opinion, 2 years ago we were flying and it was about this stage of the season were the season smomentum shifted to Cas. Today could be the begiining of a tough patch for you guys, especially after struggling last week against a barrow side that although to be respected, were very fortunate to get past featherstone.
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| Quote ="Gregory Peck"Incorrect what about TKL'S inside ball to Dodd under the sticks dropped, And Penny caught in two minds failing to take on the full back with his pace and then passing from the ground after being tackled, also must say your 3rd try had just a slight hint of obstruction in it's build up, widnes were'nt great technically today, but were better than fax and the scoreline flattered fax in my opinion, 2 years ago we were flying and it was about this stage of the season were the season smomentum shifted to Cas. Today could be the begiining of a tough patch for you guys, especially after struggling last week against a barrow side that although to be respected, were very fortunate to get past featherstone.'"
You dont think having a tough game the previous Sunday had any bearing on Barrows performance against Fev?
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"Yes, he will (if 'Fax reach the finals of the 9's competition!)'"
I was actually referring to a competition that 'matters' & anyway I think you will find that the 9's is actually in Lytham St. Annes not Blackpool.
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| Quote ="chippo"I was actually referring to a competition that 'matters' & anyway I think you will find that the 9's is actually in Lytham St. Annes not Blackpool.'"
But YOU will see that he said the 9's FINAL, which is held at Bloomfield Road, Blackpool as a pre-match game.
BTW the draw for this competition is at 7:30 this Thursday.
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| Ben Black is a complete star he is just amazing to watch and yesterday he had another blinder it was just so unlucky he lost the ball after making a stuning break, Chin up Ben so happy he as signed for another 2 years. As for losing the match we all need to draw a line under it we are still top of the league and need to get behing the team and push them to Grand final glory.
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