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| Quote ="snake1985"www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/news/8415334.UPDATED__Fire_hits_Halliwell_Jones/
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Oh, well done that man for posting a link already posted on this thread. Just shows you have read through it. Bad troll attempt.
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| Quote ="Tortured Soul"Oh, well done that man for posting a link already posted on this thread. Just shows you have read through it. Bad troll attempt.'"
sorry i actually didnt know the link had been posted, someone sent me it so i thought id share it
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| Quote ="Tortured Soul"You can back up this statement, can you?'"
Well of course I backed it up I posted a report from Cheshire Fire service. Now dont give it " it was oldham" they had left a long time before the fire started
Until CCTV or arrests are made I think that it is prefectly clear that 1/2 full end of fax fans had something to do with it.
So you back it up that it wasnt fax fans.
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| Quote ="dids858"Well of course I backed it up I posted a report from Cheshire Fire service. Now dont give it " it was oldham" they had left a long time before the fire started
Until CCTV or arrests are made I think that it is prefectly clear that 1/2 full end of fax fans had something to do with it.
=#FF0000So you back it up that it wasnt fax fans.'"
Sorry, but scientifically you cant prove a negative.
Ive just read the "report" from cheshire fire service and nowhere does it say that the fire was started by a Halifax fan.
Infact if you read the report out of context it could be inferred that there were only Halifax and Fev fans in the ground at the time as no other teams were mentioned but at the time of the fire there were supporters from other clubs in ALL stands.
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| I'm not making any accusations, because I don't know who started it; I wasn't in the vicinity of the incident. And, I can bloody well good guess that you weren't either. You are making an unfounded accusation that ALL Fax fans are pyromaniacs without producing any evidence.
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| Are some people just stupid for a living? :s
ONE fan did a stupid thing just as ONE fan did the same at The Shay. If anything from this is fact it's that only ONE person caused it. So how are we 'all' a 'bunch' of fire starters? The other 2,999 were clearly not involved.
Some folk are getting very touchy for one person's foolishness. It happend, that person's an idiot. Let it go.
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| Quote ="J20"Isn't that their job? Didn't Barlow jump in the crowd causing a flow of people down towards him which is highly dangerous?'"
Chariots Offiah used to jump on the hooligan fence regularly at your ground matey, I know a referee who once yellow carded him for his stupidity in causing a bit of a stir, so there
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| Quote ="marillion man"Chariots Offiah used to jump on the hooligan fence regularly at your ground matey, I know a referee who once yellow carded him for his stupidity in causing a bit of a stir, so there
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Not having a pop at the player or the fans as can be a natural reaction but just saying it is the stewards jobs to prevent it in a safe manner, especially in our modern health and safety obsessed day and age
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| Quote ="Tortured Soul" You are making an unfounded accusation that ALL Fax fans are pyromaniacs without producing any evidence.'"
Well, it seems plausible to me.
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| Quote ="griff1998"Well, it seems plausible to me.'"
Well i for one cant wait for barbeque season again, Love the smell of firelighters !!!
There were fans from all over the place there that day, Warrington, Sheffield, Widnes, Oldham, Fax, Fev it could have quite easily have been one of the Feverstone thugs, not happy with one Fan in hospital, wanting 2000 in there, It could have been a sheffield fan wanting us to burn for wearing Barlow Shirts, It could have been a warrington fan cause they are disgusted at the price of Carlsberg !!! Oldham cause they are sick of being in finals and losing, Fax fan wanting to set fire to the stand they are all in !!! it could have been Mark Aston becuase he was angry that we ate all the chicken balti pies !!!
OR IT COULD HAVE JUST BEEN SOME WOMAN HAVING A SNEAKY FAG IN THE TOILET AND FLICKED THE BUTT WAY INSTEAD OF FLUSHING IT.
i know which one of these i would be going at, IT WAS MARK ASTON BECUASE WE ATE ALL THE CHICKEN BALTI PIES !!!!
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| Quote ="tommy"Are some people just stupid for a living?
Sadly mud sticks. All Fev fans have been branded scum by some Fax fans when clearly the vast majority are well behaved and only a minority caused trouble.
I think it was classed as deliberate because it took place in a non smoking area, I can't imagine someone would be stupid enough to set light to a stand containing thousands of their own fans.A debate is going on on the Fev forum about grounds like that making provision for smokers or having some sort of system like BPB for letting people out of the stadium for a smoke.
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| Quote ="phil stone"Sadly mud sticks. All Fev fans have been branded scum by some Fax fans when clearly the vast majority are well behaved and only a minority caused trouble.
I think it was classed as deliberate because it took place in a non smoking area, I can't imagine someone would be stupid enough to set light to a stand containing thousands of their own fans.A debate is going on on the Fev forum about grounds like that making provision for smokers or having some sort of system like BPB for letting people out of the stadium for a smoke.'"
You are right, mud does stick, Apparently there was only a police presence their becuase featherstone were playing and there was trouble between featherstone and Warrington or something in the Cup, Also due to incidents in the town again involving Featherstone folk ( i wont say fans as i dont really think they are, just band wagon jockeys ) I was there last year when we played barrow, not a single problem that i saw or remembered, unlike this time, it was a day to remember for us winning, but also in years to come the memories will always be dragged down by these incidents. UNfortunatly going on the totalRL site, many others teams have had really bad experiences of playing fev due to the fans/violence.
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| Quote ="Faxhali"You are right, mud does stick, Apparently there was only a police presence their becuase featherstone were playing and there was trouble between featherstone and Warrington or something in the Cup, Also due to incidents in the town again involving Featherstone folk ( i wont say fans as i dont really think they are, just band wagon jockeys ) I was there last year when we played barrow, not a single problem that i saw or remembered, unlike this time, it was a day to remember for us winning, but also in years to come the memories will always be dragged down by these incidents. UNfortunatly going on the totalRL site, many others teams have had really bad experiences of playing fev due to the fans/violence.'"
Fed up of hearing that there was trouble at the cup match v warrington, the main problem in the ground was we was all shooved into stand we was in for final with warrington fans. Warrington were expecting a few hundred but got maybe 1000-1500 so we were crammed in. The stand where you fax fans were at start of game was empty but they wouldnt even let us have a small space in there, so we were crammed up like sardines. Ive been to every fev away game this year bar tolouse and can say ive not seen any trouble.
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| Quote ="snake1985"Fed up of hearing that there was trouble at the cup match v warrington, the main problem in the ground was we was all shooved into stand we was in for final with warrington fans. Warrington were expecting a few hundred but got maybe 1000-1500 so we were crammed in. The stand where you fax fans were at start of game was empty but they wouldnt even let us have a small space in there, so we were crammed up like sardines. Ive been to every fev away game this year bar tolouse and can say ive not seen any trouble.'"
Well you wouldn't would you being a Fev fan, and probably one of the good ones, its what goes on after the match !!!! when you are probably walking home with friends discussing the game, Have a look on the totalRL site like i said, Many fans from many different teams all different age groups, with the general concensuss that they will never visit again due to what they witnessed when they have been. Cant all be liars now can they, the RL community doesn't all come together to just willy nilly come up with these comments to get to fev fans.
I am willing to bet the gates for away fans visiting your place next year will be down.
It wont affect us or our gates, you see we have a special turnstile that says CHAMPIONS SEASON TICKET HOLDERS on it. Perhaps if you come next year you could wear one of those 2010 champions t-shirts for a laugh, if you aint got one they are on sale in the shop now for 20p.
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| Quote ="Faxhali"Well you wouldn't would you being a Fev fan, and probably one of the good ones, its what goes on after the match !!!! when you are probably walking home with friends discussing the game, Have a look on the totalRL site like i said, Many fans from many different teams all different age groups, with the general concensuss that they will never visit again due to what they witnessed when they have been. Cant all be liars now can they, the RL community doesn't all come together to just willy nilly come up with these comments to get to fev fans.
I am willing to bet the gates for away fans visiting your place next year will be down.
It wont affect us or our gates, you see we have a special turnstile that says CHAMPIONS SEASON TICKET HOLDERS on it. Perhaps if you come next year you could wear one of those 2010 champions t-shirts for a laugh, if you aint got one they are on sale in the shop now for 20p.'"
I normally go with mates in car so do generally miss anything that goes on after game.
Not many teams have brought fans to fev this season, but its same when you read barrow forums, fans of all ages abusing away fans, you get it at every ground.
And to me fax are play off winners, were league champions, after all you cant be a leader of something thats finished
btw ive still not watch the game , cant bring myself to do it
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| Quote ="snake1985"I normally go with mates in car so do generally miss anything that goes on after game.
Not many teams have brought fans to fev this season, but its same when you read barrow forums, fans of all ages abusing away fans, you get it at every ground.
And to me fax are play off winners, were league champions, after all you cant be a leader of something thats finished
btw ive still not watch the game , cant bring myself to do it
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Honestly, If you sky plussed it on the day you wont get to watch it all anyway, i have viewed it and then it stopped ten minutes in the second half, DAMN THOSE FIRE STARTERS. The second half is the best part, the rest is just boring to be honest
Your right, come the first game of the season you will no longer be champions, However we will be until the Grand final next year, thats 365 days of 2010 GRAND CHAMPIONS !!!!
Fev played 22 league and playoff games lost 3
Fax played 23 League and playoff games lost 5
Not bad really hey.
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| Quote ="snake1985"I normally go with mates in car so do generally miss anything that goes on after game.
Not many teams have brought fans to fev this season, but its same when you read barrow forums, fans of all ages abusing away fans, you get it at every ground.
And to me fax are play off winners, [size=150were league champions[/size, after all you cant be a leader of something thats finished
btw ive still not watch the game , cant bring myself to do it
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I think the term that Rugby League use is "Minor Premiers", with the emphasis on MINOR
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| The event also showed the seriousness of playing in unsafe stadiums, some of whom still host Super Doopa League - if they have a fire at the main stand at Wakey, Cas, Salford etc, they would be pulling bodies out.....luckily new concrete stand bought the supporters sufficient time to get out of the stand safely.
I appreciate these 3 teams all have new stadiums being built (after all, new round of SL licenses being handed out so they have to say that, it worked last time...sales of CAD drawing software gone through the roof in the Wakefield district) but until then I wouldn't be happy sitting at any of these grounds.
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| Quote ="Faxhali"
OR IT COULD HAVE JUST BEEN SOME WOMAN HAVING A SNEAKY FAG IN THE TOILET AND FLICKED THE BUTT WAY INSTEAD OF FLUSHING IT.'"
Will this criminality never end ?
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| Faxhali wrote:You are right, mud does stick, Apparently there was only a police presence their becuase featherstone were playing and there was trouble between featherstone and Warrington or something in the Cup, Also due to incidents in the town again involving Featherstone folk ( i wont say fans as i dont really think they are, just band wagon jockeys )
Im a wire, and i was at the CC game between us and fev and can honestly say that there was'nt any trouble between wire and fev fans. We were in the red lion outside the ground prior to kick off and the atmosphere was good. Fev fans i met that day were great before and after the game. Remember i was at this game so know what im talking about.
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| Quote ="matty wire 75"Faxhali wrote:You are right, mud does stick, Apparently there was only a police presence their becuase featherstone were playing and there was trouble between featherstone and Warrington or something in the Cup, Also due to incidents in the town again involving Featherstone folk ( i wont say fans as i dont really think they are, just band wagon jockeys )
Im a wire, and i was at the CC game between us and fev and can honestly say that there was'nt any trouble between wire and fev fans. We were in the red lion outside the ground prior to kick off and the atmosphere was good. Fev fans i met that day were great before and after the game. Remember i was at this game so know what im talking about.'"
At the Champ GF last year there were a few dozen fax fans in the South Stand, one being my brother, (bought wrong tickets from RFL) and ended up watching the game with the bulk of the Barrow fans.... there was no trouble at ALL.
I dont think that would have been the case with the Fev fans this Sunday, do you????
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| Quote ="snake1985"And to me fax are play off winners, were league champions, after all you cant be a leader of something thats finished
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I was the same last year v Barrow. Still have never managed to watch it.
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| Matty Wire you will get ban writing true facts on here.
Iwas also in the pub that day before the game and was having some banter with your fans. I then had a good afternoon in the ground although it was a bit crowded in the stand. Like you say Matty a good day but you shouldnt be backing us Scum(as some Halifax fans have described us)as we are always in the wrong.
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| Quote ="wereutherein1987?"At the Champ GF last year there were a few dozen fax fans in the South Stand, one being my brother, (bought wrong tickets from RFL) and ended up watching the game with the bulk of the Barrow fans.... there was no trouble at ALL.
I dont think that would have been the case with the Fev fans this Sunday, do you????'"
Maybe not. But all im remarking on is what i seen with my own eyes. The faxhali guy was saying that there was loads of trouble at the CC game between us and Fev. It was WRONG. There was no trouble. Im merely stating facts and to hear blatant lies bandied about is the only reason im posting here. From what i hear from friends who went on sunday (all wire fan's.) there was a minority from both clubs which tarnished the majority. The same happened at wembley when a few idiots wearing our colours got involved with a few idiots from Leeds. To be honest the only reason there would have been the police presence that there was is because with 6 team = 6 different sets of fans so the police would have only been doing there job and that is policing and assisting, not because of some make believe riot by fev fans in april. Sorry for just stating the truth.
I also hope that the guy from halifax makes a full recovery. Best wishes and get well soon.
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