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| Hopefully theres no mention of play offs, only league season fixtures.... Fingers crossed, we need fit players, options, Barlow has to play if he can. Personally i think the league is over, and unless it specifically mentions eliminators then we should be alllowed to play him.
Michael Steele and the RFL owe us one here i think.
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| Quote ="justthebasicfax"Hopefully theres no mention of play offs, only league season fixtures.... Fingers crossed, we need fit players, options, Barlow has to play if he can. Personally i think the league is over, and unless it specifically mentions eliminators then we should be alllowed to play him.
Michael Steele and the RFL owe us one here i think.'"
League's not over, 2010's not over.
After embarrassing the RFL four months ago, why do you think they "owe you one" ?
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| While its unlikely that Sam will play, Justthebasicfax makes a valid point in that the wording of any documentation could be crucial. Although it is believed that he cannot play in the league programme in 2010 there might well remain a loophole if the play offs are not covered or mentioned in the agreement, i know its pedantic but....we will see!
Regardless, its not just about one player, whoever wins will have to be up to it from 1 - 17, hopefully that will be Halifax.
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| I have noticed that alot of the home games i have been to this year are quieter than last year by along way. We dont seem to shout and sing like we did last year, Now and then we have a sing but i think for 80 minutes on thursday it needs to be OOOOhhhhhhhh HALI HALI and drown out that damn drum !!!!
I have to say i dont know which way this is gonna go but i will be there regardless cheering my heart out and hoping we can make it 2 years on the bounce.
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| Quote ="griff1998"Ah - that rules Barlow out then. He's number 27.
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| Chatting to a Sheffield player on sunday and he said no way will Mark Aston let Barlow play
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| Quote ="bentleyman"Chatting to a Sheffield player on sunday and he said no way will Mark Aston let Barlow play'"
It might not be up to him, if the play offs are not mentioned in the contract.
However we have to accept that if that was the deal then that was the deal and we shall have to live with it.
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| Quote ="spanishbob"It might not be up to him, if the play offs are not mentioned in the contract.
However we have to accept that if that was the deal then that was the deal and we shall have to live with it.'"
I agree, A contract is a Contract, If i was Steele, i would leave it be, You never know when we might want to buy some more players from sheffield, they might not look to kindly in future if we try this one. Also as well as Barlow has played this year, i would not like to see him lose his disciplin on the pitch 'cause of Sheff players niggling at him and ending up losing a man.
Best decision, leave Sam out if we can ( if we have enough fit other players ).
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| Who is fit to play for fax?Seems like a reserve side the way the players are falling.
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| Quote ="spanishbob"It might not be up to him, if the play offs are not mentioned in the contract.
However we have to accept that if that was the deal then that was the deal and we shall have to live with it.'"
Playoffs aren't mentioned, 2010 is.
I think he'll play. Hope he's on a good win bonus because I think the Eagles will sue him for breach of contract.
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| Maybe the club should post on here the bit in the contract which is relevant to this issue. A few of us could look through it and see if there is a loophole. Afterall do we trust the admin at the club to explore every avenue?
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| Quote ="griff1998"Playoffs aren't mentioned, 2010 is.
I think he'll play. Hope he's on a good win bonus because I think the Eagles will sue him for breach of contract.'"
Isnt not letting him play restraint of trade?
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| not if it's a condition of loan/sale. Fax needn't have taken him. He needn't have signed for fax. If all parties agreed to the contract then no it's not!
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| Tell you what, if he plays, Superleague will be clamouring to let Fax in.
Playing ineligible players, iffy attendance figures, breach of contract ..... what next ?
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| Quote ="griff1998"Tell you what, if he plays, Superleague will be clamouring to let Fax in.
Playing ineligible players, iffy attendance figures, breach of contract ..... what next ?
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The only think missing my friend is Bankrupcy !!!
I think they have decided to hold that back this year with all the excitment.
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| Just rest Barlow for the final. Simples.
Regarding the eagles game, we need Aizue to produce another head-splitting tackle, this time on Yere whom I think is the crucial man for them. Shut him up and we are on our way.
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Regarding the eagles game, we need Aizue to produce another head-splitting tackle, this time on Yere whom I think is the crucial man for them. Shut him up and we are on our way.
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Shut Menzie up ?
He hardly says anything.
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| Aye but Andy Kirk bound and gagged him well last year
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| Quote ="griff1998"Tell you what, if he plays, Superleague will be clamouring to let Fax in.
Playing ineligible players, iffy attendance figures, breach of contract ..... what next ?
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Finishing in fifth place and getting mullered in the first playoff weekend.
That should jemmy the coffin lid open.
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| I dont think well have time to create a Bosman'esc new european legislation on employment and personal rights in RL, strictly speaking, a contract isnt a contract if it infringes upon Barlows rights to make a living in a legal manner for his employer, but as i said i dont think we have the stomach to push anything on this, or the time, i certainly think these kind of clauses are not fair on players/workers though and i have heard of them being overturned in other workplaces.
Clauses which stop people playing rugby like this should be removed from the game IMO. He is not a Sheffield player, Sheffield should have no rights to determine how he works for his new employer, i dont beleive the data protection act or official secrets act are hugely important in Championship one as far as matters on the pitch go.
Another day for this though, as Encouraged says, lets hope hes playing in a final.
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| Quote ="justthebasicfax"I dont think well have time to create a Bosman'esc new european legislation on employment and personal rights in RL, strictly speaking, a contract isnt a contract if it infringes upon Barlows rights to make a living in a legal manner for his employer, but as i said i dont think we have the stomach to push anything on this, or the time, i certainly think these kind of clauses are not fair on players/workers though and i have heard of them being overturned in other workplaces.
Clauses which stop people playing rugby like this should be removed from the game IMO. He is not a Sheffield player, Sheffield should have no rights to determine how he works for his new employer, i dont beleive the data protection act or official secrets act are hugely important in Championship one as far as matters on the pitch go.
Another day for this though, as Encouraged says, lets hope hes playing in a final.'"
Nobody was stopping him working or earning.
He had a contract with Sheffield.
Which he suddenly wanted to break.
That's the weakness in your argument.
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| Quote ="griff1998"Nobody was stopping him working or earning.
He had a contract with Sheffield.
Which he suddenly wanted to break.
That's the weakness in your argument.'"
Sheffield didn't have to release him from his contract. I would imagine any agreement wouldnt be in any paper work.
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| I've seen the contract and sadly I don't think Sam will be able to play in the game on Thursday:
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