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| It’s all been said before with every DR partner.
HKR were going to own us, so were Salford and Cas.
Did they?
No.
The same will apply to any arrangement with Huddersfield or whoever.
Fax are as much an independent club as any other at our level, they may or may not benefit from any arrangements such as DR / loans but are they dependent on them.
No.
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| Quote ="Fartown58"Firstly, no such club!
Secondly, a simple yes or no answer, would your club want Frawley if available?'"
I don't know owt about Frawley but reading the shuddersfield forum and talking to giants fans the answer would be no. He may not have cut it at SL level and be a standout in the Championship, that's the gamble.
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| Quote ="faxcar"It’s all been said before with every DR partner.
HKR were going to own us, so were Salford and Cas.
Did they?
No.
The same will apply to any arrangement with Huddersfield or whoever.
Fax are as much an independent club as any other at our level, they may or may not benefit from any arrangements such as DR / loans but are they dependent on them.
No.'"
Dream on. You don't accept then, that the SL club tell the 'partner' club who and when will play for said partner club?
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"Quote ="faxcar"It’s all been said before with every DR partner.
HKR were going to own us, so were Salford and Cas.
Did they?
No.
The same will apply to any arrangement with Huddersfield or whoever.
Fax are as much an independent club as any other at our level, they may or may not benefit from any arrangements such as DR / loans but are they dependent on them.
No.'"
Dream on. You don't accept then, that the SL club tell the 'partner' club who and when will play for said partner club?'"
I'm starting to hope the club fully commit to a DR arrangement with Huddersfield ASAP just so you do what you've been threatening for years and clear off and give up on the club. Sick of your tedious posts on here. BORING.
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"Dream on. You don't accept then, that the SL club tell the 'partner' club who and when will play for said partner club?'"
No they obviously don’t, as proved with every DR relationship Fax have been involved in, whether that be players offered to Fax or Fax offering players.
It’s just an “offer” that’s all.
The two clubs speak with one another.
One club says we have so and so available on DR this week, do you want any of them?
The partner club then adds these players to their own to form the full squad to choose from.
The coaching staff then pick a final 19 from that squad who will play that week based on a number of different factors.
Thankfully and being in the best position to know the selection process happens, none of which is based on their own unmovable bias or prejudice.
At no time do any club say to the partner club, these are the players available and you MUST play them.
It so simple to understand, really it is.
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| Quote ="TheEnforcer273"I'm starting to hope the club fully commit to a DR arrangement with Huddersfield ASAP just so you do what you've been threatening for years and clear off and give up on the club. Sick of your tedious posts on here. BORING.'"
Don't read 'em then, scroll past.
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| Quote ="faxcar"No they obviously don’t, as proved with every DR relationship Fax have been involved in, whether that be players offered to Fax or Fax offering players.
It’s just an “offer” that’s all.
The two clubs speak with one another.
One club says we have so and so available on DR this week, do you want any of them?
The partner club then adds these players to their own to form the full squad to choose from.
The coaching staff then pick a final 19 from that squad who will play that week based on a number of different factors.
Thankfully and being in the best position to know the selection process happens, none of which is based on their own unmovable bias or prejudice.
At no time do any club say to the partner club, these are the players available and you MUST play them.
It so simple to understand, really it is.'"
So Castleford pulling Mitch Clark out of 'our' team hours before a game isn't DP interfering in our team plans and telling us who we can and can't play?
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"So Castleford pulling Mitch Clark out of 'our' team hours before a game isn't DP interfering in our team plans and telling us who we can and can't play?'"
In fairness, that's a very different kettle of fish to your previous suggestion that [i"the SL club tell the 'partner' club who and when will play for said partner club".[/i
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"So Castleford pulling Mitch Clark out of 'our' team hours before a game isn't DP interfering in our team plans and telling us who we can and can't play?'"
Clearly you don’t understand how the partnership works.
Both clubs know any offered player can be withdrawn at anytime and have appropriate back up plans.
Just like you would do if someone fell ill at the last minute or got injured in the warm up Fax simply brought in the 18th player who would have been involved in the pre match training and build up process precisely to cause the minimum disruption.
That is exactly what RM said at the time, that he would have liked a bit more size and grunt but it did not interfere with game plans or affect the result.
To say the SL club are some sort of dictatorship that Fax have to bow down to
The level of misrepresentation of our own club is embarrassing to be honest.
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| Quote ="The Phantom Horseman"In fairness, that's a very different kettle of fish to your previous suggestion that [i"the SL club tell the 'partner' club who and when will play for said partner club".[/i'"
Well Castleford certainly told us that Clark wasn't going to play for us in that particular game.
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| Quote ="faxcar"Clearly you don’t understand how the partnership works.
Both clubs know any offered player can be withdrawn at anytime and have appropriate back up plans.
Just like you would do if someone fell ill at the last minute or got injured in the warm up Fax simply brought in the 18th player who would have been involved in the pre match training and build up process precisely to cause the minimum disruption.
That is exactly what RM said at the time, that he would have liked a bit more size and grunt but it did not interfere with game plans or affect the result.
To say the SL club are some sort of dictatorship that Fax have bow down
The level of misrepresentation of our own club is embarrassing to be honest.'"
To say it didn't interfere with the game plan beggars belief.
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"To say it didn't interfere with the game plan beggars belief.'"
Really.
To say 1 player of Mitch’s standard who had never trained or played for Fax before and can’t be d according to you if he did play could be so badly missed and have such a negative impact especially when you say we only get their cast offs.
Now that does beggar belief.
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"Well Castleford certainly told us that Clark wasn't going to play for us in that particular game.'"
I'm concerned now. My son's playing junior football this weekend.
If I have to pull him out on the morning of the game, because of illness or another reason, do you think the other parents will believe that I am dictating who and when will play for the club?
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"To say it didn't interfere with the game plan beggars belief.'"
Another thought.
Mitch is a prop who at best would be on the pitch for say a couple of spells totalling 30 to 40 mins.
The game plan as far as he was concerned would be.
Drive it in hard and tackle hard and get on top of your opposite number.
It’s not like he would be involved in dictating plays or anything.
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| Quote ="The Phantom Horseman"I'm concerned now. My son's playing junior football this weekend.
If I have to pull him out on the morning of the game, because of illness or another reason, do you think the other parents will believe that I am dictating who and when will play for the club?'"
No problems with the other parents but Hudds will probably never watch them play again.
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| Quote ="faxcar"Quote ="The Phantom Horseman"I'm concerned now. My son's playing junior football this weekend.
If I have to pull him out on the morning of the game, because of illness or another reason, do you think the other parents will believe that I am dictating who and when will play for the club?'"
No problems with the other parents but Hudds will probably never watch them play again.
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Oh he'd watch them every week but would tell anyone and everyone that he's had enough and will walk away. (never will though)
Ruining the forum with his repetitive squawking.
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| Quote ="TheEnforcer273"Oh he'd watch them every week but would tell anyone and everyone that he's had enough and will walk away. (never will though)
Ruining the forum with his repetitive squawking.'"
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| Quote ="TheEnforcer273"
Ruining the forum with his repetitive squawking.'"
In fairness he's been consistent throughout about DR. There are plenty of people in forumland who have spoken out against DR and then changed their tune to "our use is different because..." when their own team has started using it.
I just think he's wrong about the terms of DR arrangements always only suiting the "senior" partners in the arrangement.
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| Quote ="The Phantom Horseman"In fairness he's been consistent throughout about DR. There are plenty of people in forumland who have spoken out against DR and then changed their tune to "our use is different because..." when their own team has started using it.
I just think he's wrong about the terms of DR arrangements always only suiting the "senior" partners in the arrangement.'"
Well it definitely suited Fev last season but one of my main points about DR isn't just about the now, it's about the bigger picture. Fax and Fev may be able to see out these ridiculous 'partnerships' but some of the smaller clubs will, I fear, go to the wall and that would be a great shame. The game needs to ask itself what the future is and I would rather it involve the likes of Oldham and York, not Ottawa and New York.
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| No! The game including supporters needs to ask if it wants a future full stop. And if that means it needs us to expand to New York and ottawa to hopefully attract new interest, exposure and new revenue then we need to do it. These small clubs including our own are clearly not doing very much to keep the game alive. In the supposed hotbeds of rugby league we are attracting fewer people to watch the game and people preparing to invest in it.
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| Cameron King left Fev and looking for a club...that would sort the hooking position out...unless he's only left to pursue super league..
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| Quote ="Beaujangles"Cameron King left Fev and looking for a club...that would sort the hooking position out...unless he's only left to pursue super league..'"
You’d think he’d be off to Leeds but I guess we’ll just have to wait and see, but it would be an excellent signing but at what price?
He comes across well on the interviews I saw from him.
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| Quote ="Norman Bates"You’d think he’d be off to Leeds but I guess we’ll just have to wait and see, but it would be an excellent signing but at what price?
He comes across well on the interviews I saw from him.'"
Doubt he'll come cheap, although it's interesting that he's asking if anyone is interested in signing him on. Whether he put his price up or not I've no idea but word from inside Fev was that they were only going to be able to afford him next season if they won the GF and were promoted. Think he may be back in Oz at the moment and his partner is expecting so that may well have a big influence on his next destination.
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| Makes me laugh all this twaddle.
1. We are not a feeder club for anyone. Players move on regardless, for a better deal.
2. Any decision made by the board is made purely for the benefit of Halifax RLFC first and foremost.
3. If we DR with anyone it will be on our terms and to the benefit of Halifax RLFC.
4. Why wouldn't we want to have better players at our disposal even if they are DR?
5. Why do people continually have to put the club down, lets be positive?
6. If you can do any better bring your money, your expertise, your business plan and your free time.
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