Hmm. You may be right but that 2018 London team only made the top 4 with a point to spare and the team that got 10 SL wins this year wasn't vastly different. I don't think Toulouse are much better or much worse than 2018, Fev last backend were a better team than in 2018 imo albeit partly down to some very solid contributions from the DR players, and York have recruited well enough to suggest they should be solid again.

When you look at who London have got signed up for this season, it doesn't look anywhere near as strong on paper to me...taken from their forum (albeit posted a while ago). Not saying they won't be top 5, maybe top 2, but they have lost a lot of their better players.
Sam Davis
James Meadows
Josh Walters
Rhys Curran
Morgan Smith
Eloi Pelissier
Olsi Krasniqi
Daniel Hindmarsh
Eddie Battye
Oli Leyland
Rian Horsman
Corey Aston
Tuoyo Egodo
Dan Norman
Olly Ashall-Bott
Sadiq Adebiyi
Jacob Ogden
Robert Butler
Will Lovell
Kieron Dixon
Matty Fozard
Greg Richards
Guy Armitage

One things for sure it should be very tight at the top and there hasn't been a better chance for a true championship club to get promoted in a long time. Im not going to lie but Im very jealous that Fax won't be anywhere near in the mix next season unless we can pull a massive rabbit from a hat. The mistakes over the last couple of seasons will take the club a number of years to recover from.

And also, possibly, the last time, if the drawbridge gets pulled up after the current Sky deal expires at the end of next season.

Must admit that after all Leigh's social media promotions about "fireworks" I was half expecting another Beaumont spending spree to unfold yesterday with a view to another assault on SL, but given the damp squib that followed maybe he's keeping his powder dry for some mid-season acquisitions if they look like finishing top 5.

I agree the Drawbridge will be up the Portculllis down & some sort of Licensing re-introduced.

Unbelievabley some clubs voted for it!

I think currently the right messages are coming out of the club, getting ready for the start of the season etc.
It will be tough but if we pull together then we can push for top 5.

#UTFAX

See we're being linked with Matt Frawley(Huddersfield quota Aussie)
Bit of a coup if this happens...possible loan deal to get him of Hudds quota ?
Would make up for the 'disappointment' of Tangata on a similar arrangement...

just read that myself.

would be more than happy with Gilmore & Frawley in the halves, just waiting on a hooker now!

Wonder what happened to the Carilse deal guessing that as fallen through

Wow, a halfback with plenty NRL experience would do a huge job at this level. If Frawley is available we absolutely must go for it.

There are a number of SL clubs looking for halves as well so if we can get anybody who is anywhere near it will be a job well done.

I am told that the Giants deal loan to us of Fawley will be free...yep free...so what's in it for them.

Simple it gets an overseas player off of their roster and we become a full DR in what is in essence makes us feeder club link.

It will mean we will see some quality players at the Shay and have a real chance of competing in the league, but despite how the BOD dress it up we will no longer be a truly independent club.

Not sure if its worth it or not, but we should see a winning team.

Where will these quality players come from? It's shuddersfield FFS!

Haven't been an independent club since 2014!

Firstly, no such club!
Secondly, a simple yes or no answer, would your club want Frawley if available?

It’s all been said before with every DR partner.
HKR were going to own us, so were Salford and Cas.
Did they?
No.
The same will apply to any arrangement with Huddersfield or whoever.
Fax are as much an independent club as any other at our level, they may or may not benefit from any arrangements such as DR / loans but are they dependent on them.
No.

I don't know owt about Frawley but reading the shuddersfield forum and talking to giants fans the answer would be no. He may not have cut it at SL level and be a standout in the Championship, that's the gamble.

Dream on. You don't accept then, that the SL club tell the 'partner' club who and when will play for said partner club?

I'm starting to hope the club fully commit to a DR arrangement with Huddersfield ASAP just so you do what you've been threatening for years and clear off and give up on the club. Sick of your tedious posts on here. BORING.

No they obviously don’t, as proved with every DR relationship Fax have been involved in, whether that be players offered to Fax or Fax offering players.

It’s just an “offer” that’s all.

The two clubs speak with one another.
One club says we have so and so available on DR this week, do you want any of them?

The partner club then adds these players to their own to form the full squad to choose from.

The coaching staff then pick a final 19 from that squad who will play that week based on a number of different factors.

Thankfully and being in the best position to know the selection process happens, none of which is based on their own unmovable bias or prejudice.

At no time do any club say to the partner club, these are the players available and you MUST play them.

It so simple to understand, really it is.

Don't read 'em then, scroll past.

So Castleford pulling Mitch Clark out of 'our' team hours before a game isn't DP interfering in our team plans and telling us who we can and can't play?

In fairness, that's a very different kettle of fish to your previous suggestion that [i"the SL club tell the 'partner' club who and when will play for said partner club".[/i

Clearly you don’t understand how the partnership works.

Both clubs know any offered player can be withdrawn at anytime and have appropriate back up plans.

Just like you would do if someone fell ill at the last minute or got injured in the warm up Fax simply brought in the 18th player who would have been involved in the pre match training and build up process precisely to cause the minimum disruption.

That is exactly what RM said at the time, that he would have liked a bit more size and grunt but it did not interfere with game plans or affect the result.

To say the SL club are some sort of dictatorship that Fax have to bow down to



The level of misrepresentation of our own club is embarrassing to be honest.

Well Castleford certainly told us that Clark wasn't going to play for us in that particular game.