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| Surely this should have been decided longer in advance We've already signed up half a team for next year, how does this affect our plans??
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| Since all the championship teams had a vote in this ruling, it would be interesting to know which clubs voted for and against.
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| Quote ="dazednconfused"If clubs cannot afford to run to the current salary cap, then they should drop down into div 1.
The idea is that our league is supposed to be a stepping stone into Super League so the gap between them should not be increased.
How do Fax stand for next year? They've already signed up their big names and contracts have been agreed. How much is left in the kitty? Perhaps we'll be left with a squad of eight or nine players and half a dozen blue and White dustbins to make up the numbers.
This decision sucks!!!!
Goodbye to any future for Fax and the rest of non SL teams.'"
An improvement in recent defensive performances to look forward to then!
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| doesn't make sense?
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| Is this legal?
You can't enforce a salary cap on a club that has already committed to 2yr contracts, got to be a discretional element to account for this.
I am sure a good barrister would rip this to bits.
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| Quote ="dazednconfused"If clubs cannot afford to run to the current salary cap, then they should drop down into div 1.
The idea is that our league is supposed to be a stepping stone into Super League so the gap between them should not be increased.
How do Fax stand for next year? They've already signed up their big names and contracts have been agreed. How much is left in the kitty? Perhaps we'll be left with a squad of eight or nine players and half a dozen blue and White dustbins to make up the numbers.
This decision sucks!!!!
Goodbye to any future for Fax and the rest of non SL teams.'"
Who told you that little ' porky ' , big nige
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| If it's a "maximum" of £400k this year, why should it be dropped? Its not compulsary & how many of the clubs will actually be reaching this amount?
I remember seeing David Gallop (NRL Cheif Exec) say on tv that not many of the current Oz teams reach their cap & im sure same applies over here for all divisions.
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| Is it just me or is the championship actually proven much more competitive than super league anyway?
that is all
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| it'll be interesting to find out how much we do actually spend on players.Are we upto the limit or are we miles off - who knows ; we could be well under considering the size of our squad.
Will the introduction of our under 18s next season count in the cap - i presume it opens the door to anthony bowman and other young players we sign to press for a first team squad place.
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| Quote ="rickster"it'll be interesting to find out how much we do actually spend on players.Are we upto the limit or are we country miles off - who knows ; we could be well under considering the size of our squad.
Will the introduction of our under 18s next season count in the cap - i presume it opens the door to anthony bowman and other young players we sign to press for a first team squad place.'"
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| Its a joke is this, the salary cap is working ok,Just look at the table and its just a cap it does say that clubs have to spend that amount on players. Its just a way for the smaller clubs to bring the likes of ourselves, widnes, Barrow etc.. down to them, as opposed to them aspiring to the top teams level when it comes to income streams
How is any team in the co-operative leagues will now be capable of assembling a team to go up into super league? Answer none!!!
All the clubs will be full of loanees, is this the first stage of feeder clubs?
If its to stop teams going bust etc..., they best introduce a reduced salary cap on super league cos a few in there cant afford to spend the 1.8million that they are allowed, the RFL is currently helping out Celtic and have in the past London and Paris all super league clubs, so obviously they the ones who are struggling.
The RFL have an agenda and i am afriad that it does involve any of the little people in the co-operative leagues. Maybe it time to face reality.
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| Apologies if this sounds a bit too blunt but I hope the RFL's expansion policy fails and all the respective clubs are allowed to go bust if thats the way the market wants it
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| Be interesting to hear from someone at the club - see if we voted for it and whyp
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| Quote ="Darber"Its a joke is this, the salary cap is working ok,Just look at the table and its just a cap it does say that clubs have to spend that amount on players. Its just a way for the smaller clubs to bring the likes of ourselves, widnes, Barrow etc.. down to them,'"
Short memory old son, just 3 seasons ago you were having bucket collections as you were having money worries.
Cap is to protect our sport, the real issue is no promotion or relegation, not trying to stop clubs like ours spending beyond our means.
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| Quote ="njg4haven"Short memory old son, just 3 seasons ago you were having bucket collections as you were having money worries.
Cap is to protect our sport, the real issue is no promotion or relegation, not trying to stop clubs like ours spending beyond our means.'"
Short memory son...we had a cap then and when Haven had there on going finacial problems.
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| Quote ="a.n Other"Short memory son...we had a cap then and when Haven had there on going finacial problems.'"
Exactly my point, to stop OUR clubs spending beyond means.
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| Quote ="njg4haven"Exactly my point, to stop OUR clubs spending beyond means.'"
He's right you know
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| Quote ="njg4haven"Exactly my point, to stop OUR clubs spending beyond means.'"
The only way they will do that is if the hold the purse strings for all clubs.
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| cant see this making that much of i diff to be honest...we all know that clubs are dodgin the salary cap now with it been 400grand limit,
theyl just have to dodge it abit more!
barrow will struggle it they keep thier 50man squad!
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| the clubs have known about this for a while now. not breaking news as was on here month or so ago before signed the players up on 2 year contracts.
maybe if some players are on longer contracts when the new cap announced they dont count...
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Quote ="rickster"it'll be interesting to find out how much we do actually spend on players.Are we upto the limit or are we miles off - who knows ; we could be well under considering the size of our squad.
Will the introduction of our under 18s next season count in the cap - i presume it opens the door to anthony bowman and other young players we sign to press for a first team squad place.'"
Payments to under 21's at 31st August in the previous year don't count towards the cap.
www.cooperativechampionship.co.u ... p?id=14983
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Quote ="rickster"it'll be interesting to find out how much we do actually spend on players.Are we upto the limit or are we miles off - who knows ; we could be well under considering the size of our squad.
Will the introduction of our under 18s next season count in the cap - i presume it opens the door to anthony bowman and other young players we sign to press for a first team squad place.'"
Payments to under 21's at 31st August in the previous year don't count towards the cap.
www.cooperativechampionship.co.u ... p?id=14983
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| I dont have a short memory, we at Halifax have had alot of problems financially not just recently but in the past, where we have been more concerned about on the field and the bills will be paid tomorrow attitude. I do think alot of rugby clubs are run that way because ultimately the directors of the clubs are usually wealthy supporters where hearts rule heads.
However we have learnt from our past mistakes and are running with a sound business plan and budgetting sensibly.
Maybe what the RFL should do is send a team into clubs and help them plan and budget properly, oh sorry it already does. The golden child which is Celtic.
I agree with you whole heartedly on the promotion and relegation issue, thats what will ultimately ruin our sport
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| Apparently ' dual registration ' players will not count on the cap
So you could have say Hunslet with 6/7 Leeds ' loanees ' still operating on 100 K
Basically if you agree to be a ' feeder ' club you get a SC excemption
Good old RFL eh
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| Gateshead one of the clubs that aren't happy. Other is unnamed:
[urlhttp://www.lasttackle.com/news_2470-gateshead-disappointed-by-salary-cap-decrease.html[/url
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| As Mr Findlay previously worked at RFL headquarters surely he knew this was going to happen
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