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| Quote ="Haighy"It really begs the question over the massive hoo-hah over the whole scenario if Duffy was only on for 'a couple of seconds'.
Were those people who were 'actually there' and saw Duffy set up the winning try talking out of their derrieres?'"
Duffy did play a part, but the "couple of seconds" were whilst Jock was leaving the field and Duffy came on too quickly.
Of course, if 'Haven had more brains then they'd have appealed against a player coming on to the field without authorisation rather than there being fourteen men, but then again, have they got any brains to begin with?
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"Duffy did play a part, but the "couple of seconds" were whilst Jock was leaving the field and Duffy came on too quickly.
Of course, if 'Haven had more brains then they'd have appealed against a player coming on to the field without authorisation rather than there being fourteen men, but then again, have they got any brains to begin with?'"
thats what they did appeall against as well as 14 on the pitch which there was
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| Quote ="haven4ever"as well as 14 on the pitch which there was'"
Yes, there was, for a couple of seconds. There was a seagull on the pitch for longer than that.
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| Quote ="haven4ever"thats what they did appeall against as well as 14 on the pitch which there was'"
You are beginning to sound like a dog with a bone. Please read my first post on this thread and let it go for goodness sake.
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| Has anyone noticed that both
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Unassociated / coincidence?
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| Quote ="haven4ever"thats what they did appeall against as well as 14 on the pitch which there was'"
..for a couple of seconds....read it and weep. Have also had an email from the RFL who are looking at the incidents after the game and 'will be speaking to the ground safety officer to ensure these incidents don't happen again'
Haven haven't come out of last weekend too well have they....although you did get a bonus point
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| Quote ="Fax Machine"Has anyone noticed that both
[urlhttp://www.whitehavenrl.co.uk/[/url
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are down at the moment.
Unassociated / coincidence?'"
HavenFans.co.uk Forum - The Unofficial Whitehaven RLFC Forum
Due to extraordinary circumstances, the HavenFans.co.uk Forum has been taken offline. No further comment will be made at this time.
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| Quote ="haven4ever"thats what they did appeall against as well as 14 on the pitch which there was'"
Ah but if we were to look at the 24 substitutions (12 each) how many times were there technically 14 (or even 15 with double substitutions) on the pitch?
When all the anger and feeling has died down, there are lessons to be learned about the use/abuse of that technical area and the number of officials to police it.
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| Quote ="Alan"Ah but if we were to look at the 24 substitutions (12 each) how many times were there technically 14 (or even 15 with double substitutions) on the pitch?
When all the anger and feeling has died down, there are lessons to be learned about the use/abuse of that technical area and the number of officials to police it.'"
i agree it was a bit of a shambles
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| Quote ="haven4ever"i agree it was a bit of a shambles'"
And I wouldn't have been too impressed if it had happened to us, especially in a tight match.
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| I bet Rolo was behind all of this............
I wonder if Leigh will be chucked out of the league for cheating, hmmmmm ??????
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| Quote ="marillion man"I bet Rolo was behind all of this............
I wonder if Leigh will be chucked out of the league for cheating, hmmmmm ??????'"
At the risk of repeating old news, the RFL have stated that there will be no charge against Duffy, or Leigh.
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| So..to translate that.. Leigh didn't cheat
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| Quote ="Alan"At the risk of repeating old news, the RFL have stated that there will be no charge against Duffy, or Leigh.
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Where does it say that the charges against Leigh have been dropped? That is just the charge against Duffy. Surely there is still the matter of a sent off player being replaced by a sub.
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| Quote ="Fax Machine"Surely there is still the matter of a sent off player being replaced by a sub.'"
Duffy was considered to be a substitute when he was sent off, so you are allowed to still have 13 men on the field but only 3 subs.
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| Now proven to have sent off incorrectly....some people still don't understand I see, or maybe they just don't want to (eh FM). Sent off as a sub thus reducing the bench to 3 replacements. It is not an offence which affects the team, just the player hence McConnell being given permission by the referee to retake the field.
Their complaints were about the 14 men and that player playing a part in the winning try. Read the disciplinary report and it covers both the Duffy incident and mentions the 14 players which actually had nothing to do with Duffys red card. So it has been dealt with. End of.
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| I think I'll write to the RFL, requesting them to suspend Duffy for life, (and McConnell - he was involved in the treachery too) deduct 30 points from Leigh, fine them £100k, ban all Leigh staff from the technical area, and sales of lobby within a 10 mile radius of Leigh.
It might be wrong, but it should go some way towards satisfying all those fans who didn't actually see the so-called incident at Whitehaven!!!
P.S. Hope to goodness that this doesn't happen again on Sunday, at LSV!
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| As for still having thirteen on the pitch, after Duff's dismissal, that surprised me too. However, after a deal of soul-searching, I have almost come to the unpalatable conclusion that the ref. may just have known the rules!!
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| Quote ="Alan" I have almost come to the unpalatable conclusion that the ref. may just have known the rules!!
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Oh my God. Will this mean the end of civilisation as we know it !!!!
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| Quote ="DemonUK"Now proven to have sent off incorrectly....some people still don't understand I see, or =#FF0000maybe they just don't want to (eh FM). Sent off as a sub thus reducing the bench to 3 replacements. It is not an offence which affects the team, just the player hence McConnell being given permission by the referee to retake the field.
Their complaints were about the 14 men and that player playing a part in the winning try. Read the disciplinary report and it covers both the Duffy incident and mentions the 14 players which actually had nothing to do with Duffys red card. So it has been dealt with. End of.'"
Cut the sarcasm DUK. All anyone wanted was clarification. I'm sure that if this had happened to any team bar Leigh you would feel the same way. You have to admit that it is a fairly unusual set of circumstances. Firstly, I don't ever remember a sub being sent off before when he's not actually on the field (although Duffy was, wasn't he?) and, secondly, could you point me at the rule which says, if this should happen, that it doesn't reduce the number of players allowed to be on the field at any given time.
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| Quote ="Fax Machine"Cut the sarcasm DUK. All anyone wanted was clarification. I'm sure that if this had happened to any team bar Leigh you would feel the same way. You have to admit that it is a fairly unusual set of circumstances. Firstly, I don't ever remember a sub being sent off before when he's not actually on the field (although Duffy was, wasn't he?) and, secondly, could you point me at the rule which says, if this should happen, that it doesn't reduce the number of players allowed to be on the field at any given time.'"
It is unusual - we've just got to assume the ref knew the rules. ( I know, it goes against everything we've been saying about refs, eh? )
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| Quote ="Fax Machine"Cut the sarcasm DUK. All anyone wanted was clarification. I'm sure that if this had happened to any team bar Leigh you would feel the same way. You have to admit that it is a fairly unusual set of circumstances. Firstly, I don't ever remember a sub being sent off before when he's not actually on the field (although Duffy was, wasn't he?) and, [size=150secondly, could you point me at the rule which says, if this should happen, that it doesn't reduce the number of players allowed to be on the field at any given time.[/size'"
As I think has been mentioned earlier in the thread, when we (Leigh) played featherstone their substitute got carded for putting off our kicker as he was waiting to come on. The ref saw him putting off Nanyn and carded him before the substition could be made. This left 'Fev with 13 men on the pitch but they couldn't use that substitute for 10 minutes (which was pointless as their was only about a minute left!)
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| Quote ="Nozzy"As I think has been mentioned earlier in the thread, when we (Leigh) played featherstone their substitute got carded for putting off our kicker as he was waiting to come on. The ref saw him putting off Nanyn and carded him before the substition could be made. This left 'Fev with 13 men on the pitch but they couldn't use that substitute for 10 minutes (which was pointless as their was only about a minute left!)'"
Was it a pressure Kick? If so he was wasting his time.
Makes me think though, if Leigh get to the Final and Fat Mick plays, Leigh will lose, he's lost about 5 grand finals now hasnt he?
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| Quote ="Nozzy"As I think has been mentioned earlier in the thread, when we (Leigh) played featherstone their substitute got carded for putting off our kicker as he was waiting to come on. The ref saw him putting off Nanyn and carded him before the substition could be made. This left 'Fev with 13 men on the pitch but they couldn't use that substitute for 10 minutes (which was pointless as their was only about a minute left!)'"
pity ref in last years grand final did not do something about players putting patts off kick when charged out from posts
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| Quote ="swifty62"pity ref in last years grand final did not do something about players putting patts off kick when charged out from posts'"
Unfortunately that was the least of our problems that day!
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