More depressing news..it seems we took top 4 for granted,which is rank bad management .

Join the club.

I have been saying for some time that the club is experiencing financial problems, and attempting to hide the size of the problem. No one at the club will comment on anything officially or give any resaurance to say I'm wrong. I simply don't know who is running the club and to me it looks like we are heading in the same direction as we were in 2006, the last time we almost went bust, and the old Board were thrown out...apart from one member, who is still present.

To add to this we are now being asked to buy season tickets, with uncertainty about the South stand and clearly a squad recruitment list that indicates we will struggle considerably next season in a tough and uncompromising league. There isn't a single player that excites me, although there are a few I know will work very hard for team and some youngsters who MAY prove ok as time goes on.

I am sorry but whilst I know I am never happy this all looks very unsatisfactory to a simple fan.

Ominous signs, the reports about wages, shutting parts of the ground, coaches gone. We really did bank on top 4 and expect it eh?

Tough times ahead and another difficult season maybe?

Where's that millionaire mentioned a few months ago?

Difficult season maybe ? unless the youngsters really step up we're looking at a relegation battle.Is Simon Grix playing on next year ? don't think there was anything in the millionaire rumour or if there was it didn't happen.

Swinton have signed Matt Sarsfield and Jack Murphy,I think they could be a surprise package next season.

Did Grix play this year? Think he owes us a season....

You know, it must be hard to run a club like Fax. No tangible assets to borrow against or sell onto someone more ambitious. Just debt and the hope that you might sneak into the top 4. Whilst assuring fans that growth and Super League is the future. Must be soul destroying!

Applies to pretty much any club, given a small variation in objectives, depending on where you finished.

Everyone's going to finish higher, despite the blindingly obvious fact that that's impossible.

It was the part about he owes us. Bad choice of words.
He Owes us nothing.

I again agree Mr Empsall, but Freddie is not that type of guy.

It's better to keep ones council and be thought an idiot than to post on the Internet and remove all doubt.

ryan boyle signed from cas.

Simon Grix re-signed for next season . Due to more important off field happenings never really worked out for him last season . Hopefully things have settled down and we will see hm prosper next season . Normally I'm quite pessimistic but with his signing , Boyle re-signing and hopefully a couple more additions for some reason I just feel a bit more optimistic .

I think we lost our way in 2016 and some players that simply didnt want to put in 100%. Some players over the years have had much talent and were biggish names- yet did nothing! Others like Dave Wrench were considered average signings, but they put in 100% and got the team out of some tight spots. I dont expect us to finish in the top 4 but I do expect the team and individuals to put more effort in than last year. From my understanding is the new contracts are 10% less basic pay, but should Fax get in the top 4, the benefits will see players not really lose out financially. Maybe that will inspire the team more this year. Grady for example may not be a great signing, but as long as he gets stuck in and gives 100%-same goes for them all, then we should go OK and thats all I expect from anybody. Its not what you have but how you use it. We had one guy who stepped up and showed heart when times was tough last year. Hopefully this year a few more are ready to get stuck in, like Adam does. If we can keep hold of Adam we have done well.

Glad Simon has re-signed,hope he is able to show why RM was so keen to bring him here.

next signing announced at 5pm today

Delighted that Simon Grix has signed after the terrible events with his family last year hopefully can have a good pre season and he should be a great player at this level virtually a new signing

Matt Haggerty confirmed.

Potentially good sign on the face of it, but he's been around a few clubs so far, let's hope he can settle in and prove himself