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Thank you for the info , looking on the dark side it only takes S L to offer a carrot to the community voters, (coaching, player appearances, kit, ect) for heads to be turned.

Excellent articles what a sorry mess the game is in " Im all right jack" stuff everybody else

Quote ="bentleyman"Hope you check every clubs account FD and put it on their Forums '" There's some right shockers, bentleyman, for example Huddersfield Giants .................... https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history ............ lost over £1 million at the last count and were insolvent to the tune of over £13 million, owing a "related party" (presumably Ken Davy) over £14 million. These so called "sugar daddies" aren't giving their money away, they're lending it (even though one could argue they're unlikely to get it back). The 2 SL clubs I've picked out are heavily in debt and want EVEN MORE money to squander, Very scarey.

Quote ="bentleyman"Hope you check every clubs account FD and put it on their Forums '" There's some right shockers, bentleyman, for example Huddersfield Giants .................... https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history ............ lost over £1 million at the last count and were insolvent to the tune of over £13 million, owing a "related party" (presumably Ken Davy) over £14 million. These so called "sugar daddies" aren't giving their money away, they're lending it (even though one could argue they're unlikely to get it back). The 2 SL clubs I've picked out are heavily in debt and want EVEN MORE money to squander, Very scarey.

There's nothing wrong with doing that. It's public information.

And they think that is a threat?

I've been saying for ages that the Championship & Championship 1 clubs should unanimously reject DR. It is universally hated and Fax only use it because the rest do.

Stopping DR would hurt the SL clubs most as without their arrogant use of "feeder" clubs they would be forced to reinstate Reserve Teams which they would be obliged to have anyway if Rimmer had any balls!

Don't think anyone will disagree with you FM.If a S/L Club has threatened a C1 Club they should be named & shamed disgraceful bully boy tactics

Yep, the "threats" now confirmed in greater detail by the Faxlore post and links.

I sincerely hope this backfires across the sport as the ones being threaten and everyone with anything to do with the game now have no doubt as to the nature of their SL partner / clubs and once you give in to this like any sort of blackmail in only leads to bigger demands and then a nasty ending.

As Bentleyman says these people should be publicly named and shamed, they are a disgrace to their clubs and the game.

In the same Sky program it was also mentioned that Mr Rimmer was keen to point out that he had not just rolled over but had tried to stand up for the Champ and Champ 1 clubs and the wider game.

I heard the club is Warrington Mick. Also hearing SL have got their proposal through. Beyond belief!

Apparently by as much as 2/3 rds of the vote, 35 - 18 in favour?

I cant speke !! Stunned

Ian Lenagan quoted ' Its a vote for Super league and Rugby League.' !

I can usually get my mind round most things and rarely completely dumbfounded but not this time.

What are we missing, how can anyone outside SL vote for something like this.

Someone please explain.

Has there been some sweetener to lower league clubs ? there has to some benefit for the lower league clubs or they wouldn't have voted for it. I'd like to know which clubs voted against.

Bullied in to believing they may get some scraps from the new TV deal. Fools.

So would i

As long as the RFL never accepts a cut in sky cash does it really matter ??

There has to have been some kind of sweetener to Champ and Champ 1 clubs which we don't yet know about.

There is no way that so many clubs would have voted to blow their brains out.

As GFB says, the clubs are likely to have been suckered in by promises which may not be able to be delivered. When it comes to the Sky negotiations I know who I am backing ........

Turkeys/Christmas/Super League/Greedy are a few words that come to mind.

The game in 3 years will have lost quite a number of 'heritage' teams due to this.

I can't spake!

A landslide ………….. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/45520586 I must admit I think the 8s are seriously flawed as it creates dead rubber leagues re the Super 8s and the Championship Shield and now Fax have made it to the Qualifiers I'm not really enjoying seeing us get tubbed every week. We'll have a far better chance of promotion going forward as I now think the top Championship clubs won't feel the need to go full time with SL players in preparation for the end of season clashes with the SL clubs, and it'll be far more exciting taking part in the old style top 5 play offs.

A landslide ………….. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/45520586 I must admit I think the 8s are seriously flawed as it creates dead rubber leagues re the Super 8s and the Championship Shield and now Fax have made it to the Qualifiers I'm not really enjoying seeing us get tubbed every week. We'll have a far better chance of promotion going forward as I now think the top Championship clubs won't feel the need to go full time with SL players in preparation for the end of season clashes with the SL clubs, and it'll be far more exciting taking part in the old style top 5 play offs.

Quote ="Fuzzy Duck"A landslide ………….. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/45520586 I must admit I think the 8s are seriously flawed as it creates dead rubber leagues re the Super 8s and the Championship Shield and now Fax have made it to the Qualifiers I'm not really enjoying seeing us get tubbed every week. We'll have a far better chance of promotion going forward as I now think the top Championship clubs won't feel the need to go full time with SL players in preparation for the end of season clashes with the SL clubs, and it'll be far more exciting taking part in the old style top 5 play offs.'" We won't stand a chance of promotion without going full time and with less money that unfortunately is even further away than it is at the moment. Obviously the top 5 play off will only be for SL clubs with our league top goes up meaning it will be harder for clubs like ourselves to market games past the half way point once it becomes clear that we have no chance of promotion or no carrot to aim for like there is now.

Quote ="Fuzzy Duck"A landslide ………….. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/45520586 I must admit I think the 8s are seriously flawed as it creates dead rubber leagues re the Super 8s and the Championship Shield and now Fax have made it to the Qualifiers I'm not really enjoying seeing us get tubbed every week. We'll have a far better chance of promotion going forward as I now think the top Championship clubs won't feel the need to go full time with SL players in preparation for the end of season clashes with the SL clubs, and it'll be far more exciting taking part in the old style top 5 play offs.'" We won't stand a chance of promotion without going full time and with less money that unfortunately is even further away than it is at the moment. Obviously the top 5 play off will only be for SL clubs with our league top goes up meaning it will be harder for clubs like ourselves to market games past the half way point once it becomes clear that we have no chance of promotion or no carrot to aim for like there is now.

Well the SL clubs have now got what they asked for so go and make it the flag ship comp you say you can.

No more scapegoats, no body else to blame like you have been doing for all the failures.

Quote ="Fuzzy Duck"A landslide ………….. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/45520586 I must admit I think the 8s are seriously flawed as it creates dead rubber leagues re the Super 8s and the Championship Shield and now Fax have made it to the Qualifiers I'm not really enjoying seeing us get tubbed every week. '" The 8s don't create dead rubber leagues. There are always going to be dead rubber games in a league. Fax are getting tubbed partly because they just scraped into the middle eight and partly because there's a huge disparity between full time Div 1 clubs and part time Div 2 clubs. Creating a competitive under competition is the great challenge the game faces.

Quote ="Fuzzy Duck"A landslide ………….. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/45520586 I must admit I think the 8s are seriously flawed as it creates dead rubber leagues re the Super 8s and the Championship Shield and now Fax have made it to the Qualifiers I'm not really enjoying seeing us get tubbed every week. '" The 8s don't create dead rubber leagues. There are always going to be dead rubber games in a league. Fax are getting tubbed partly because they just scraped into the middle eight and partly because there's a huge disparity between full time Div 1 clubs and part time Div 2 clubs. Creating a competitive under competition is the great challenge the game faces.

I'd like to know how we, Fax, voted. Anybody?

Can't think LS28 would have been in favour if the club weren't....

Let the club tell us then. The club belongs to the supporters and I'm sure our sponsors would like to know too. It's our club.