I agree.

Sinfield comments at the end were good, they have a real 'team' at Leeds.

the Smith second try was marginal but i do think that it was offside.

whats the point in having Video Refs if they still get things wrong. i can see why he gave it, it was a tight call but for me was offside.

Well i thought it was onside, don't even see BOTD come into it. Smith was in line with the saints player on that 'new' camera angle, which is where the ball was on the toe of Sinfield. Don't see what the problem is.

Look at the line. Smith was certainly more in front of that line than the kicker. It was totally obvious. Bentham and some other"believers" were trying to apply quantum physics to the situation when it was bluddy obvious Smith WAS in front! Bluddy 'ell.

Lot of crowd trouble after game apparently.





Scousers no doubt!

................are you laying a trap with that statement?

sat waiting quietly for the float to sink..

No suprise to hear this. I was in the saints end tonight and numurous scuffles occured to say the least , quite a shame as tonights game was a very decent one for the neutral to watch and the saints bunch are that bad at all. Segregation at grand finals has to be looked at i think though.

Saints are probably getting annoyed that they keep getting beat every year and even when they finish second they still lose the final.

5 of us in Fax shirts got chants of "Barrow, Barrow" on the way out!! One word . . . WHY?!?!

I fekin hate stains fans.

They will have a poor 2010, can't wait to see their demise unfold on sky.

Indeed - Everyone else just looked at them with disgust really. Haven't got time for them, and they didn't ruin a good night.

Eastmond's try should have been disallowed as he touched it before Donald knocked it back to him to regather and score.

The Smith try should also have been disallowed as his foot was in front of the ball as McGuire kicked it. Both feet must be behind the kicker.

Just my opinion.

I was in the Leeds end and it's the second Grand Final this year where they ran out of hot food before half time! Think us white rose's must eat too much!

There was no trouble outside the ground with Leeds fans, just over zealous stewards and Police trying to nab people sneaking the PLASTIC beer bottles up.

Where I was sat I couldn't really see the screen but it did look like Eastmond knocked it onto Donald for his try.

I'd hate to be that successful, Leeds fan didn't really celebrate after the win, must be getting too used to winning. Still it must hurt the Leeds Utd fans that the only way they get to see a Leeds team win at Old Trafford is to support the Whinos!

A great game and spectacle once again, we had a great day out on the King Cross Park trip as per usual but the miserable Saints fans in the West stand upper tier behaved like -holes for the second year running.
My fourteen year old lad and three of his team-mates were attacked by grown men as they were leaving the stadium with 5 minutes of the game remaining, one of them aged approx 40-45 year old aimed a kicked at my lad who was sat nearest the aisle and when the stewards and police intervened amongst other neutral fans , one of his mates spat at our lads, big big men in their forties who can't stomach their beer or losing a game of rugby league






We were in a block booking of approx 100 seats ( two coachloads ) and our kids just happened to be the nearest targets and they were sat down and the group of 10-12 blokes of middle age were stood up beckoning them for a fight the brailess fools. Fortunately we were sat further away in the middle of the block otherwise there would have been real trouble, guaranteed.
It was the same last year, I hope they don't get to the final day again, great rugby club, brilliant rugby team, rubbish supporters.

A very accurate assessment of St Helens.

Football fans who can't afford to go to watch Liverpool or Man U.

looking at their player in/out's wouldn't be surprised if they dont make play offs in 2010.

That would be excellent to watch unfold on sky - hate 'em.

I agree, they're not going to be the team they were, but I can't really see them missing out on the play-offs to be honest. They'll be up there. Plus the season only finished yesterday so now it is important they get some quality replacements in. Whether they do or not remains to be seen.

A group of us Fax fans used to meet up with a group of Wigan fans in the 90s to attend the internationals. A Wigan fan called "Big Glen" hadn't attended a Wigan match for a couple of years .. he said he had "become bored of Wigan winning, I can't get excited anymore".

I suppose once you're at the top the only way is down. Ironically, it's "healthy" to lose a few matches, it keeps the interest alive. Maybe the likes of Scartching Shed Ghost should consider that "Losing is as important as winning, otherwise what's the point in winning if you don't lose? Just like there cannot be life if there is no death", before he posts "Calland Out" threads.

Exactly what Leigh have cleverly done this year. Drop down a league, bounce straight back and whip up feverish interest again from the fans

Losing is the new winning.

EXACTLY!