Bitterly disappointed that Dane has gone and I must say thanks for all your effort at Fax you have been our most consistent player the last few years.
As for the club whilst I am glad the Board are cutting their coat according to their cloth I must ask why are we here? I think there is something wrong at our club but cannot say what only like others I think we have a certain arrogance that is undeserved and the whole club needs to treat its fans and sponsors better as we have lost lots of both and the club just cannot afford to lose any!!!
As for our Batley friend you are right you have the advantage of owning your own ground and us stupid lot come over in large numbers (maybe not next year) and put loads in your coffers which is now biting us in the bum as you have a better team than us although your Board can show how to run a RL club well I give them credit.

Sad to see one of our most consistent players leave. Just shows how backwards we have gone and we are obviously short of money.
To lose one of our better players to a rival for top 4 is disappointing. Can't blame him for leaving for more money. We once cherry picked batleys best players but the tables have turned. Losing one of our best players and the recruitment looks fairly unexciting. Top 4 looks a long shot now. London , Hull KR, batley, fev, Swinton look to have recruited far better. Dual reg looks a must.

Gutted about this news. However Dane has to make the call that is right for him and his young family (can't see him making a fortune as a window cleaner so am guessing rugby is his main source of income.) Also we should consider the dynamics of the team. It would be awkward if the club made an exception on the 10% drop in wages for one man. How would the other players feel? I am sure the club did all they could to retain his services but we have to move onwards and upwards now.
The team is going to have to work that bit harder now but they will have my support as they have accepted we are in the proverbial, financially, and by accepting the 10% pay cut, nailed their colours well and truly to the blue and white mast.
'The king is dead long live the king' (Shakespeare no less

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Dave as you know ,I have always rated DM ,it doesn't surprise me though he has chosen to join Batley, someone on the Forum referred to them as Little Batley, they are far from that, I expect Disk in to have them challenging for a top 4 spot, the Championship will be great to watch next season and I intend coming to a few games at the Shay, my worry is for Fax as a Club , they seem to be ready to settle for a place as also ran, your player recruitment is worse than most, I expect Swinton to be the Dark Horses next season, I hope I'm wrong but it could be a long season for Fax.Having said that I know fans like you, Halifaxjohn, and Hudd Shay, won't lose the faith, hope to see you soon.

Agreed. There has to be an element of realism that no team has a God given right to be up there-especially Fax. Looking at the full time teams HullKR;Bradford;Tolouse;London then a strong Batley and Fev already shows how tough it will be before you add into the mix the usual seasonal dark horse side.
There will be some cracking games, of proper rugby, in the Championship next season. Good teams will take points off each other. Fax just have to hold firm, ensure they win their home games, secure Championship rugby first then kick on form there. What will be will be after that.
Building a successful team with no money is a tough call. We have done it in the past (Maurice Bamford era for example) -only time will tell.

There are only two points available from each game, and it will be a very competitive league next year. No easy matches, and team spirit and enthusiasm will be key for us. Our players will need to play to their full potential, but I think that above all, RM needs to rebuild the strong bond that the team had in 2015 so that morale stays high when the going gets tough.

Tbh, our best hope is probably to be that seasonal dark horse side!

If its true haggerty as pulled out leaves us just two ne players with Grady and Rob.

I would say its a settled squad not two many changes apart from those who left. If grix comes back strong at the start of the season I can see us pushing.

The club is now run like an amateur team,hoping on local carpet sellers, and all the other small time businesses and HMRC tax relief from iffy business men.

Passionate, but only sponsorship wise.

Don't know what Gartland, Harvey, Posner. Pearsons wife are doing.

Club will not challenge.

Pay cut? More half Ar*ed performances

Thanks for your efforts Dane over the last few years, gutted to hear you are leaving but life goes on.

I think the people you name are being sensible and not pouring money into a business with no assets and the only revenue stream is a bum on a seat. Let's be honest, the business plan isn't the best in the world is it?

We don't own the stadium, we don't get on with our landlord, the bar and food revenue goes to someone else and the shop revenue doesn't go to the club.

We live hand to mouth .......

How do you know that the shop revenue does not go to the Club?

Because it goes to 1HX sports.

Not really answered the question there Pellon Boy - how do YOU know that it doesn't go to the club????

Well. As there isn't any particular dialogue from the board, to us £20 a pop fan, one can only speculate.

Now, what to do with that spare £20?

As I understand it, kit to the value of £15000 was supplied to the club by 1HX Sport at no cost to the club. So while no cash changes hands, the club receives goods instead. That is the basis of the agreement between the parties.

To my mind that is a lot of money that the club does not have to find every year, but like any business it has to be recouped from somewhere. I would speculate that 1HX do not make much, if any profit, probably having to sell circa 600 adult replica shirts every year to cover the cost of the kit provided to the club.

And who is to cover the cost of any unsold items in the shop at the end of the season?? I bet the club don't!!

1HX sports has only one director Mr Ian Croad. Who is also a long standing director of the club and I believe a specialist in textiles/clothing.

The accounts as at 31/10/15 show an accumulated loss of £21,512, up from £17,034 the previous year.

So unless Mr Croad, or someone else is being paid a large amount from the company it doesn't look like a money making operation. However with the abridged accounts it is impossible to understand turnover and how much it pays, to who, for its clothing and any margins made on production of clothes.

Nonetheless, it is once again a case of "best guess" without formal information.

They're abbreviated accounts, not abridged. Abridged accounts are very new and few companies, if any, will have filed them yet.

Also, as Dbvada says, the losses are cumulative, so this year's loss is the difference between £21512 and £17034 - or just under £4500 for those without calculators to hand.

Previous year's loss was around £11500.

Well one thing is for sure, they won't be getting anything from the sale of Dane Manning shirts.

Had a few hiccups in relation to him being our player but thankfully now sorted and will formally become our player today on a 2 year contract. We are delighted now with our 29 man squad. Was finished at 28 players really but when chance to sign such a quality player from a big rival came had to push boat out and get him back where he belongs!!

Is that a quote from the Batley site or what?

Dane enjoyed his time at Fax he had a great relationship with the fans here, this move is purely a financially driven one which we all understand why you are the moneybags now and have a large squad, you are expected to get a top 4 spot whilst we aren't so the pressure is all on you!

Quote ="Fax4Life"Dane enjoyed his time at Fax he had a great relationship with the fans here, this move is purely a financially driven one which we all understand why you are the moneybags now and have a large squad, you are expected to get a top 4 spot whilst we aren't so the pressure is all on you!'" Your right , we have always been the underdogs , only time will tell if we can handle it , this is a link to our website about Dane www.batleybulldogs.co.uk/index.p ... 75-manning

Quote ="Fax4Life"Dane enjoyed his time at Fax he had a great relationship with the fans here, this move is purely a financially driven one which we all understand why you are the moneybags now and have a large squad, you are expected to get a top 4 spot whilst we aren't so the pressure is all on you!'" Your right , we have always been the underdogs , only time will tell if we can handle it , this is a link to our website about Dane www.batleybulldogs.co.uk/index.p ... 75-manning

Sorry yes it was

I have no problem with Batley having their turn to have some money and go for their dream etc.- they earnt it last season. We had our chance previously- it's now their turn. Dane will be a massive plus for them and on paper their squad looks strong and also bolstered by Cas DR etc. Time will tell. Back to basics for us Fax fans. History shows there is no coincidence our most successful times have been when there has been little or no expectation on the team. Time will tell on that one as well.

12 months ago we were all saying how wonderful it was to have the extra money and the difference it would make having a bigger squad.

Hah, how time spoils the best of plans.