The Town lads posting on here will be giddy when they see on their computers what team we are travelling with tomorrow. We look forward to the fall out after we have been smashed.

We might win.

Griff,

I think you should point that out to the Leigh fans! Seems that promotion is possible under the super 8s or whatever they are called. I also suspect that Bradford and Toulouse will be there or thereabouts next year with whoever gets relegated and Toronto the year after. You might not like the system, but it does appear to work.

What is going to be difficult for the likes of Sheff/Fax/Fev is making the middle 8 and therefore having to operate on less funding ongoing.



Now all I have to do is win the Euro millions to fund Fev and we are sorted....

FG

They say the best way to become a multi millionaire is by starting as a billionaire and buying a sports club

PB - like it, though I have heard the saying before it still brought a smile to my face

At the risk of repeating myself, they could have been up two years ago. They were in the box seat under the franchising system.

So why were they not allowed up then???
Franchising is NOT the answer end of story come on Fev should have gone up when they dominated our league but their face did not fit with the Fat Controller.

Franchising has no place in it for P&R, it is a closed shop and that's what we had pretty much.

They changed it because it would have been embarrassing not have let Leigh in, now they have to and the Fat Controller will have to deal with Degsy as well as, possibly if he's still around, Marwan.

I don't think Marwan will be around. He's poured a shed full into Salford and got nothing back. Crowds are poor and he's not happy with how the RFL behave. Imagine punishing him for breaking the rules!!

I personally think Salford could go down in the MPG

Totally agree, I hope he does stay around as I like the way he has tried to shake things up to get the game more profile, he has said he won't be pouring his money in though so only time will tell.

As we all know at Dax there is only one way for the game to truly progress and that is to remove the head of the whole thing.

Because some idiots changed the system to Twelves and Eights just as Leigh were on the point of getting there.

Wrong - in 2014 when the franchise license would have been given Leigh didn't fulfill the criteria (i.e. grand final appearance over the previous 3 years or NR cup win), but don't let the facts get in the way of the truth.

I agree with both of you Franchising is not the answer for our sport (UK RL).

I agree with both of you Franchising is not the answer for our sport (UK RL).

Leigh cheated i mean beat us in the NRC final 2011,wouldn't that have counted ?

You are quite correct - it would (as would their win in 2013) - Doh - that will teach me to rely on my memory.

Though no club would have fulfilled the average home crowd of 2500 for the years 2011-2013 FWIW.

Your memory is poor

we achieved the crowd average when 4800 attended our last home game against Batley :'

Don't worry, Dave. I won't.

The Batley game was 2010 and so counted to the franchising for 2008-2010, which some might suggest was rigged in the favour of Widnes, not the 2011-2013 period, which would have counted towards the 2014 franchising.




Rich,

So would Leigh have have meet the criteria to apply for a franchise in 2014, if the franchising system had still been in place then?

Fair enough-time flys.

We'll never know, will we ?

Ifs and buts.

Exactly.

How can any of us say what arrangements Leigh would have proposed in the franchise application they didn't compile ?

However we do know, since they didn't meet the criteria of having 2,500 average attendance in a season, which was part of the criteria, which meant they couldn't apply. So by definition your assertion that Leigh could have been in SL two years earlier doesn't hold true.

However all of this just deflects from your initial point that it was easier to be promoted under the Franchise system, which is plainly not true.

Dog, bone, Dave.

Maybe they'd've given free tickets to all the school kids in the area for the last game and counted them whether they came or not.

Who knows ?