And why are glasses stupid? You're not one of those who go around calling folk speccie 4 eyes eh? Grow up!

As was Millward with his Saints team and I don't recall them doing too badly....

Somethings not right, but kneejerk reactions blaming everything on rumours and hearsay won't help the situation.

The lads need to turn up at Batley or this seasons gonna descend into a farce. keep the faith folks.

I agree but how many times can we say it. We said it before the Haven game and again this afternoon?

i have had a season ticket for 15 seasons on the trott and this is my last.
not because of the form and losing run but because i know and have seen with my own eyes all the rumours in this thread to be true and i am discraced by it.
the club have let things slip out of their control and are making things worse and i blame them not the coach, as the coach never did have the respect of the players and now its like a kindergarden with a very poor teacher who cant control them so why are the club letting it happen?
well i wont come back now until i see drastic action. im sure theres planty thinking like me too. so yeah if the club feels it should say nothing then thats their decision.
i thought barrow did wrong moving their coach aside for a more experienced one but i feel we should of done it too. however probably too late now

I know mate. But we've been in many a worse season in the past 20 years. I still think we have what it takes something just isn't clicking right. This is the time when Matt and Martin will earn there money. They have to find out whats gone so severely wrong and right it.

I just hope they get the chance, it wouldn't suprise me one bit if some changes at the top are imminent after tonights game...

Where was Martin tonight, why was Matt dressed in Black and not club colours, somethings going on, were a shambles and theres a reason, it will come out soon i hope.

I can 110% guarantee it was one of your players !!

In a blue and white wig wearing those joke jamjar glasses in a bar in Blackpool

really that important??

Just putting tonights game into a little perspective...overall we had improved in attack, we were much better at building pressure, gaining repreat sets and moving forward in attack. We also gave less penalties awa and lost less posession when we had the ball in hand.

However it was the defence and tonight was really a big game that we needed to win. Our defence has gone back to like last seasons. So Fax if we can't defend we need to score more in attack...something we did a lot of last season. The choice is yours?

Confidence was clearly a massive issue tonight as well...which i'm sure sure will now only get worse

Good god, now we are scraping the barrell to give reasons for getting rid!

Put it on here then. Nothing else seems to be working. Maybe embarassment of their behaviour will?

That could be one of millions of people who invade Blackpool every day! Mistaken identity im sure

I never said anything of the sort. Don't try turning my comment around to mean anything other than what it was supposed to. Refer to my comment above for what I meant by 'stupis glasses'

Get a grip man that`s certainly a conspiracy theory too far . There is something afoot `cos Matt was wearing black there has got to be more of a reason than that for the poor run of form. By the way I`m surprised this thread is still runing the mods must be all in bed.

I tell you what, I will see if the lad who was out with us still hs the piccie on his mobile and I will do my best to put it up here. What I will tell you is that it was one of your backs. its difficult to name names without concrete proof (ie the actual pic still available) but it is common knowledge most of your lot were out on the p*ss in Blackpool on the Saturday (as were most other teams im sure)

calm down & get some sleep!!!! sarcasm is lost on some people!


actually, seeing a pic would be good though!

its no accident martin isnt there and we aint won a game i brought this up the other day.
it also prooves who the real coach is at the club and the 1 who the players have respect for

Well as already said they are allowed to go out.

The fact is we have had all this he said she said drinking talk in previous seasons. I'm not saying its not true however the club clearly don't have a problem with it or they would have done something about it...which probably means the behaviour is classed as acceptable based on the terms of their contracts.

The other point is the players will do what they like anyway, if they don't want to be seen then they will go out in london or somewhere else, so what we need to be doing is creating responsible hard working players that are also allowed to enjoy their time off as well. I hope that the players want to get something out of this season as much aswe do, for personal pride, for the club, for us, and for their future careers.

I wasn't biting mate, just offering up a wee bit of evidence. I may not be able to get hold of it (old news and all that) but will ask him at work tommorrow. If I get it Ill post it on here - You will laugh your off - he is clearly sh*t faced

I have heard that the Blackpool trip was a mass p*ss up which is not acceptable, they were playing in a tournament.

Mr Clay - get it sorted, you are the CEO we need a more professional club as 'the drinking club' may have worked for a while but it aint working now, we are getting caught out.
The Coach should lead by example, and that does not mean how much he can drink.

You need to sack Calland and re-instate Hall as head coach immediately.
Calland sounds to be a similar character to a recent former Batley coach who was more concerned about who was buying the first round after the match than the acual match itself.
Ok, maybe the socialising situation was the same at the start of the season when you were successful, but believe me it can only carry on for so long before it starts to affect performances in a big way.
A coach should be someone who acts professionally and keeps a distance from the players to maintain an authority and respect, not someone who joins in with the drinking games.
Get rid of Calland the buffoon before he starts to drag your club down.

maybe the drinking thing is a bit over the top, but do we really know compared to other clubs. Lets face it we are talking about part time players with other jobs - working class lads who like any other like a good beer or 2. If we try to stop this, do they resort to other forms of "relaxation" - think about the no of players in both codes found using other substances recently.

As longs as it is not ott then fair enough. I heard that in the World Cup, england were laughing stock, cos whislt Aussies and Kiwis were out bonding having a beer after a hard raining session or game, we were at organised tea parties. And a recent aussie coach at Leeds insisted on his players going to the bar after training or match nights otherwise they could kiss their payslip goodbye.

These lads ave got to have a life, bond with each other. But the balance has to be right, the coach has to command the dressing room.

I am more worried that our tactics are not up to it. Teams have worked us out and we have no answers, yes we have individual skills that when things go right we can blow teams apart but this alone is not good enough to wins games over 80 mins.

Let's not forget, at Blackpool we only lost one game - and that was the very first one against Featherstone. Fax won 3 out of 3 games on the Sunday.

This is true, I was stood next to the Leigh players/coaches in one place and it wasn't early on. Needless to say Leigh were tonked in their match the next day.

Ive read a lot of the posts on here and i dont really know what to think. Fair enough...they are professional sportsmen or at worst semi professional and rightly so i believe they have the clubs reputation to consider, but its wrong to assume that these lads cant let their hair down from time to time IMO.