When we get refused a franchise by the RFL we should just resign from the competition en masse and create a new sport, say Rugby with proper scrums or 7 point tries and one point conversions, pick a load of the choicer amateur teams to come with us and let SL have what they want, just SL, then we ban all our players for making the switch to RL on pain of sine die suspensions which effectively dries up a SL player recruitment pool, do a deal with the Aussies and make friends with the RU so we can piggyback on the RFU's off field nous. Then of course we get someone who knows what they are doing to sort out the mess I made.

But seriously, all of us below SL should resign from the competition and just tell the RFL where to go, then start again ala 1895.

We can't afford to do any of that unfortunately. And i say "we" meaning the collective mob that exist outside Super League.

Those are pretty much the exact words to a work Colleague when I read an article on the BBC forum about it....

Our job is to make the decision as hard as we can for the Red Hall numptys. If we're the standout team of the competition over the next few years then even if they do screw us over once more, it'll be painfully obvious to the RL world that they've bugg ered up.

Surely the Championship clubs can do something about this? If it was agreed that Toulouse had to meet the criteria set out for the rest of the Championship clubs in order to be in a position to apply for a franchise (or whatever false name you wish to call it) then aren't the RFL in contravention of this agreement by allowing Toulouse to make an application? And, if indeed, Toulouse were actually informed that they would be allowed to make an application over 12 months ago regardless of whether they met the criteria or not; is that not also in contravention of the agreement? Where do the Championship clubs stand legally on these issues? I would expect ALL the Championship clubs to make a vociferous opposition en masse to the RFL, unless they knew this would happen all along, and in that case, IMO, they are as guilty as the RFL.

The problem is the criteria for the next round of Super League franchises isn't set in stone. They have announced several times the final criteria hasn't been set up yet. All the RFL have to comply with is one team from the championship will come up and that a team in the championship in order to apply has to get to a grand final or win NR Cup. However who says that there isn't another criteria that says a foreign team can apply for super league without meeting this criteria. That way they just move around the initial problem.

Gotta love some people who follow our sport ...................... supposedly.

Our sports governors are out of control.

Like they were saying on the Widnes board. Widnes Vs Fax game in a couple weeks would be a good opportunity to put the fans feelings across?

Widnes fans usually put their feelings accross when we play them. Might make a decent change for them to vent their anger elsewhere.

Somebody needs to say something, its pathetic, those two muppets dont own RL.

I think the problem is that they're in COMPLETE control and don't seem to be accountable to their members. That's where the problem lies, they just do what they want.

Well we fans of Championship clubs are whistling in the wind.

I have already paid for my hotel and flight to Toulouse on April 2.

I shall have a word with a few mates about making a peaceful protest which will hopefully get in the press and on TV.

Watch this space it'll take an old bed sheet or two and a couple of cans of paint. We can boycott all we like but we need to do something more and us Leythers will. What about you Yorkshire puddings?



We can roll over or we can fight this as fans.Our respective chairmans can't as their hands are tied.

Save our game do not just put up with it.

. Just wait till we play Toulouse.

I know that the RFL can do what they want, but it [iwould[/i make it harder for them to publicly justify a decision to grant Toulouse a franchise if they were to come bottom of the league (or at least in a relegation spot). Best way for the other Championship clubs to fight this one off is to make sure we all give them a good stuffing home and away.

I've somehow created an immense hatred towards Toulouse, even though it's not really their fault!

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Nothing there mate, it just goes to my current groups and pages?

Ha! Jeez what a farce.

Flipping heck.

Martyn Sadler (RL Express Journo) has posted on the rlfans.com forum .... "The RFL has now issued a press release stating that Toulouse do indeed have to reach the 2010 Grand Final to apply for a 2012 Super League licence. An RFL official told our correspondent Mike Rylance that they didn't have to, but it seems that the RFL got it wrong." Presuming he's not a doppleganger, it may well be business as usual. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=446965&start=135 Page 10 and page 11

Martyn Sadler (RL Express Journo) has posted on the rlfans.com forum .... "The RFL has now issued a press release stating that Toulouse do indeed have to reach the 2010 Grand Final to apply for a 2012 Super League licence. An RFL official told our correspondent Mike Rylance that they didn't have to, but it seems that the RFL got it wrong." Presuming he's not a doppleganger, it may well be business as usual. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=446965&start=135 Page 10 and page 11

What a great sport. We trust these idiots to make decisions on our future and the very health of our clubs and the sport in general and they can't even make a press release without giving the interviewer the completely wrong impression, nor make a simple challenge cup draw without having to make it twice both without sound on the live feed. What a joke the sport is. And the worse is, all the people in this thread, the one on my board and elsewhere will be vilified for "overreacting". But we've been treated like a shambles.

Anyone who dares criticises this will no doubt be branded as a 'flatcapper'

www.therfl.co.uk/~therflc/home/n ... p?id=11628 This makes interesting reading, however it wont be long before it get somehow erased from the history of the RFL archives. This is a total stitch up, but i would expect anything else from these clowns. We have the best competition for a long time and this is how the RFL treat us, our sport is beginning to become a joke.

www.therfl.co.uk/~therflc/home/n ... p?id=11628 This makes interesting reading, however it wont be long before it get somehow erased from the history of the RFL archives. This is a total stitch up, but i would expect anything else from these clowns. We have the best competition for a long time and this is how the RFL treat us, our sport is beginning to become a joke.

Can we, the fans, oust these incompetent governors of our sport from the offices they hold? It seems to me that, for years, we have held them in contempt for the way they ruin our game in the name of progress. Yes, some of it has been inevitable, but I have no confidence in their ability to promote, direct, and improve the value of Rugby League at any level.

Vote: NO CONFIDENCE.

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Nothings changed much from this am in real terms.
Bear in mind. A spokesperson from Toulouse said they were aware of this 18 months ago!!!! So some PR/spin from RFL says it was a mistake, the counter to that is if so how come Toulouse dont think so?

You just got lurve the Sooper Dooper Expanisonist take on things dont ya
Yeah expansion for expansion sake as long as my little club is ok........

God forbid if the RFL ever really got it right. Where would typically in 10 years time would the Wakeys, Cas, Salfords, & even higher up the pecking order the Hull's, Saints & Wires really sit in a truly European league of city teams (Dublin,Madrid,Paris, Edinburgh, Birmingham, Cardiff etc etc)
& respective big backing?
Exactly no where in League 2 or 3..........
Ultimatley nearly every one of the apologists for rfl know deep down there isnt a cat in hells chance of it ever really taking on that well.
So they can pull the drawbridge on their nearest rivals geographically now & utilise the same aul same so stock answer of ahhhhhhhh Flatcapper eh?

At present we should view with reasonable deep suspicion most things coming from that place...........

Rant over

I've posted this many times on the VT. They all reply that it's pie in the sky stuff anyway and wouldn't happen [uBUT[/u, if it did, they'd fully support it !!! - at the expense of their club and for the good of the game!!! Very few of them have the integrity to admit they'd be sellfish towards their own club. It's easy being supportive of these harebrained schemes when it doesn't [idirectly[/i affect your club. Pomposity is at home on the VT and of course with the boffins at the RFL HQ where there is no affinity to a club and therefore no understanding of what it means to be a true Rugby League fan.