Listened to it on BBC radio Cumbria and we were never in it.
With Bulls and Batley both losing damage limitation is down to the points difference gap closing.
All down to Fax v Batley and Bulls v Whitehaven next week to see who finishes where.

It's all irrelevant now to be frank . End of season .

London's fiscal management is diabolical. They are losing some central funding but are almost certainly spending more than the loss on increased rent.... One can only assume that Hughes' wealth was achieved by luck rather than financial acumen.

Disappointing to go down without really firing a shot - We knew the circumstances but couldn't do anything about it.

Robinson coming on with 20 mins left @ hooker? Why does he persist with his brother at scrum-half is baffling, unless Robinson was injured. Speaking on injuries, getting a little miffed about the lack of communication AGAIN about where some players have been for several weeks, namely Rawsthorne and Jones and you can add Harris to that list now. If we can finish third, had a really good season. It seems like a coin toss as both Bulls and Batley have also lost their last two.

In terms of who needs to be replaced or need better:

Grix (Should retire)
Kavanagh (Maybe one more season at a push)
Garside (Not good enough)
Not sold on the Davies boys

Need at least 4-5 new forwards, ideally, two-second rowers and two new props, assuming we keep Tangata, Larroyer, Calcott, Murray, Morris

Also, an out and out centre - Barber is not a centre

And please no loan signings to start the season.

Just a totally flat performance really and we got totally out muscled by Haven which really comes as no surprise to anyone who has watched us since Springer and Bourough left. We now have to hope that Haven don't get in the top 6 if we beat Batley as our season will end there. Im sure the players would prefer the trip to France but the reality is if Batley beat us this week then they would probably beat us the week after in the play offs as well. Luckily for us it looks like Batley are in similar form to us so beating them should give us a win against London. Player wise yesterday just nobody stood out or stood up. I saw someone say Scott Grix has had a great season. If he has I really need to stop watching Rugby League because this really is a season too much for him. He was awful again yesterday poor kick selection, poor pass selection, numerous mistakes, but all forgotton because he broke the line for about the first time this season. Why Woody has been moved to centre when his tackling is the weakest part of his game is beyond me, he has to be at full back as he really is the only player we have with a bit of flair and quality in attack.

The good thing is we have a nucleus of a squad that should be near the top end of the table come next season. The question is what are we aiaming for. If it were top 2 then we would probably need 8 or 9 players who are improvements on the current squad so thats probably unrealistic so we are probably aiming for top 6 again in which case we probably still have to move a few on if we want to make top and be competitive come the end of the season.

Of the current squad I would say get rid of the following:-
Grix - a season too far. Davies twins - they try hard but they would not stand out in league 2. Sion Jones - Won't be on a lot of money but same as Davies twins. Robinson and Harris - Both not good enough for a team that wants to compete at the top of the table.

This just about leaves the following:-
Woody - Has to play fullback but clearly not a Grix type player. Salty, Worthington, McComb, Rawsthorne - Basis of a good back line but really need to add another quality centre. Add a centre it means McGrath could probably go. Fairbank, Barber, Kavanagh, Murray, Morris, Larroyer and Tangata - They are all ok but we really need someone who can break the line, we could keep all these if we added a nasty prop or two with some size.Calcott I think has easily been our best squad player and has shown promise, not sure why he hasn't played more. Add a couple of props and you end up with Garside as a squad player which is fine, that is the standard of squad player we need to aim for to be a good team. Having players who are not as good as some amateur players as squad players leads to the position we find ourselves in now with the season finishing with a whisper.

On the way back got talking to some Hunslet supporters who got on at Workington who rated Harry Kidd very highly and were surprised Fax hadnt recalled him.

Is he still our player ?
Have to say GFB latest post is spot on -being saying most of it for weeks.The only disagreement I have is that our forwards need a severe cull.Tangata and the young guns Calcott/Morris apart-wouldn't be upset to see any of the others leave.

As far as I know Kidd is Hunslet's player but another with the likes of Brooks and Bennion who seem to be good at the lower level but not able to step up.

Agree with the forwards we have a lot who are very "vanilla" and wouldn't take much replacing. Nothing wrong with those sort of players though its just you need one or two who are above that level.

It's a strange one isn't it? At the start of the season most Fax supporters would have taken a third place finish. Now it seems possible we appear determined to throw it away. We are three games away from a million pound game and the level of gloom and lack of expectation among most fans is alarming. We should be going into the Batley game beating our chests and building it up as the most important fixture for years. Instead nowt, not a whimper. All very strange.

Losing to the likes of newcastle, whitehaven in recent weeks is the reason behind this. Releasing players and not getting loans in to replace loan players who left when every other team seems to get loans in each week from sl. Lack of ambition

Agreed although we did beat Newcastle, just!

Firstly i hope the person who needed medical treatment is ok that is never nice to see. As for the game Whitehaven were everything i hoped fax would be well organized and looked dangerous when moving the ball. Coming on to the ball at pace accurate crisp passing and running good lines. There halfbacks ran the show there forwards ran hard making plenty of meters after contact and to be honest everything they did with and without the ball they looked like a team. Where we looked like a bunch of individuals completely lost at times hoping for the season to come to a end anybody could have been mistaken for thinking they were in third spot. There number 13 was superb i would love to see a loose forward play like that for us. As for the rest of this season barring the top 2 and whitehaven the rest seem to be falling apart together. I just hope we can find a way to win next week get third spot but we need to find a injection of intensity from some were or our playoffs will be over before they have even got going. And the coach could start picking players in there best position that would help and cut the favoritism to his brother because he needs dropping.

Who can say if there is lack of ambition when no one knows what's going on!!!
There could well be, but there's no doubt there is a lack of information and that's what is so frustrating.
Communication is the bridge between any club and it's fan base and at the moment we ain't got one in place.

Well said. Heard that Harris has left already !?!? The club needs to step up. The weekly interviews with Grx are essential but there should be questions reserved for squad health/ injuries etc with him.

There is clearly a communications gap currently with the bod departures of snowflake and ceo. It feels we are back in a corner shop .

Harris is injured. Not gone anywhere. Should be back for the Batley game

The doom and gloom is generally around the people that post on here. Never happy. Beat Batley on Sunday and we finish 3rd. Yes we’ve not really hit our straps this year or been playing free flowing rugby but it’s still got us to 3rd.

Whilst I for one agree with some of what you have said it's not the full story by any means.
I can only speak for myself and others may see it completely differently but here goes.

The doom and gloom element is based on the state of the game as a whole as well as what's happening within the confines of our home town club.

Doom for anyone outside SL because for a fact they voted for a breakaway gaining direct full control over themselves and virtually indirect full control over everyone else.

No one else including the RFL and every other club has any meaning full say in what the future holds for the game, it's the sporting equivalent of a dictatorship.
The world of football soon saw what was happening when the so called elite clubs tried it on and it got quickly stamped on but not the world of rugby league when the SL clubs did it.

Gloom because everyone is in the dark and there's a common thread, no one knows what is going to happen to the wider game through lack of information and no on knows what is happening to our own club through lack of information.

As laudable as finishing third is if we Batley or even fourth is if we don't doesn't change anything from the above.

If by doom and gloom you mean as fans we should just stay quite when we think something at the club could be done better well that is not going to happen. As for the above post faxcar i couldn't of put it better myself good post.

Mp wrote is right your all doom and gloom on here.
The team have done well this season and the directors are trying there best.
Anyone who thinks they can do better get on the board and bring your cash along too.
Super league here we come

Some people are fine accepting mediocracy. That is fine thse people are entitled to their opinions too.

Watching players of barely amateur ability in front of 1100 fans compared to the 90s of 10x that with top super league standard players.....can see why im discontented...still we're only 75% back to Cawoods days-no need to panic yet...

It does feel as though we, the club, have plodded through to the season's end. Reading Simon Grix's comments about his brother Scott's 400 game milestone only endorses the feeling, stating he potentially has two games to play before he retires. Not three? Not four? It makes you wonder.

/quote Add to that the teams that have "over achieved" this year in Haven and batley and then a number of other teams and next year is going to be a really good division despite the cuts which are due to the failings of the people at the top table anyway.'"

I wish our players were as easily motivated, been fired up by a post that actually compliments them.