Shame that I think the Fax v Fev game will be a good in , I might pay to watch on stream.
As for the RFL and no relagation I tend to agree with you , I think Clubs have already been told , because all our players are on 1 year contracts , and Derek doesn’t seem bothered about the stuff we are serving up, to me it seems nobody is bothered.

I believe in promotion and relegation , you have to have it , I also enjoy the Championship games , I still hope to get to the Shay later in the season , take care and stay healthy , give my best regards to Di .

Cheers! I also think they know what's going on but there again I was sure that Toulouse would have got the vote to go up last year. I wouldn't trust those in charge of SL/RFL as far as I could throw 'em. The latest ruling on elite reserve teams being a prime example of their incompetence st best or even corruption. We shall see, at least you're having as season at the top table. Up The Fax!

Our 21 man squad is out and i have to say on paper at least we are looking pretty strong i would stick with the same 17 from last week they deserve to have another crack this week but i would be tempted to have a look at russell it will be interesting to see if he plays or not and will scott grix come back in because for me he shouldn't

A very strong squad - while Grix was one of our better players before getting injured bringing him back now would seem idiotic as it would mean shifting what have probably been our best 2 performers this season in J W H and Barber- tough on Grix but he shouldn't be considered for a place until injury or loss of form justifies it.

prediction time i will stick my neck out and go for a fax win 30-20 we are at full strength and fev have a few out if we cant win now then its time to give up i no they will still have a strong side out and will be full of confidence but so should we and time will tell if i am right or not i hope i am

Heart and hope is Fax by a score, head is Fev by 2 scores maybe more.
Nowt against Scott but to bring him back in means dislodging two of our best players of late from their current slots.
Woody to the centres and Ed to the pack.
Ed going to the pack would also mean another of our big guys missing out.
Fev have been immense in the forwards and we need the three big guys on the bench with Amir to give us our best chance.

Hardcastle and Bussey both ruled out to join the ever growing injury list at Fev. At the start of the year I didn't think McConnell, Beckett or Field would play a game for us but they're all playing today. You are right, you won't get a better chance at turning us over than this.

Well that was a hot day. Not very impressed with the ref. However we never looked like braking the Fev line. One of the Fev try was the interception one from a pas that shouldn’t have been thrown and an other was so soft it was painful to watch. I don’t feel their was too much between the teams but, once again, our attack near the line is woefully unorganised.
Hope folk turn up to watch the Eagles game.

We got the rub of the green today. Another day we won't. That's how it rolls

There is rub of the green when it’s 50/50 decision but there were just wrong decisions today. But as I said we never looked like breaking Fevs line.

Gut feeling was the fax effort ruled out in the first half was a try. I will look closer at the vid later.
I remember tangi charging down a drop goal attempt a few years ago at fev. A very marginal decision on a day of marginal decisions I perceived that fax were the beneficiaries.
Today, we got the breaks. It's how it rolls. But yes, I also note your comment. Against a very depleted squad with eight out who you might argue would have been in the 17, plus fev being a man short for ten mins.... fax could only cross once.
I was nervous throughout

Defensively I thought Fax were excellent against a top 2 side, effort they had to put in during first half I think caught up with them later. Creativity was stifled at least in part by a very professional Fev side - hope Robinson injury not too serious as while Russell looked lively they will miss his organisation. Disappointed Amir missed out as on a hot day he could have been devastating coming off the bench. Bit underwhelmed
with Worthington so far, defends well and runs in hard - can't remember him giving one pass to his winger though today - or for majority of the season.Overall though in view of the quality of the opposition I'm perhaps feeling more positive than some posters- if they play like that with a bit more guile in attack I'd expect them to win vast majority of their games.

The day when we can talk about two teams going head to head testing each other’s ability is what I’m interested in . Today was about the man in pink , I’m glad I wasn’t there . Sick to death of corruption in society and sport whether it be football boxing or rugby. It would be nice to know who’s the best instead it’s all about some jobsworth in the middle , you want fans back call us the Halifax gimps for all I care , 18 years of no chance of super league has nothing to do with what goes on between two sides on the pitch, it’s refs and politics , do one , spread your butter as thin as you like , your toast tastes dry.

Haven’t watched the game back yet but a few quick bullet point first thoughts are.
Ref. Not so much for this game just sad for the game in general when there’s so much time money and effort spent by everyone else and that’s the best we can expect on a regular basis for all teams depending on which way the wind blows.

Teams. It was hot out there in the middle today and all 34 gave it their best shot and deserve a clap or two.

We didn’t have many chances and those we did Fev's defense was outstanding with Fax too not far behind them.

Woody's disallowed try, from where I was stood behind the posts at that end it wasn’t a knock on, it was grounded just short of the line and I had a pretty good view of it.

Injuries, a couple had ones for concern and the majority of the rest knew they had been in a game and will have their fair share of bumps and bruises to prove it.

I watched the game on Our League, and the JWH effort looked like it was well on the line as it was grounded. A roll forward a few inches (no separation or second movement) and it was easily a try from any angle. 12 points effectively for that, given they went straight up the other end and scored. Disregarding that, it certainly wasn't a knock on. Possibly a slight separation on the way down, but a firm hold on the ball as it hit the ground. They showed it lots of times on the stream!

Some observations - We lacked quality in the halves

1. JWH was a try - Brown's was a margin call at best. Significant momentum swing.
2. Broke them a few times but couldn't convert.
3. Fev were missing a few but crucially, they still had their 1,6,7 and 9.
4. Our last play options were dire, coupled with ill-discipline meant we couldn't really establish any form of territory or pressure.
5. Do we ever attack down Worthington's edge?
6. I think Barber is a very skilful player but I'm not convinced he is a centre. Lacks pace.
7. Crucial period in the season. In the next 8 games, we SHOULD be winning at least 7 if not all 8, if we want to be really finishing in the Top 4.

Forgot to add, going into the game, for us to be competitive was my hope and I think we did that. Grix is probably proving me wrong at the moment as I really thought he had lost it after the showing at Oldham. All things being equal, we should continue to improve.

Im not sure which was funnier, Tom Grant's performance or Lawrence Turners.



Im only kidding about the ref it was defo Lawrence Turner's I mean what was he thinking. End of the day you do not speak to your customers like they are something that you just trod in. He has made a complete ass of himself no matter what his intensions, it looks like he needs to keep himself up in his cushty little box where he can flout any covid rules he likes and stay away from the real people.

On to the game I just thought Fev had that little bit extra quality which they should have given the size of their squad and their likely spend compared to ours. The Woody try will be an interpretation rule as he deffo looked short to begin with. A couple more went against us but at the end of the day we struggled to break them down and our halves looked poor, when we did break them down in what should have been an easy try instead of been 8-6 up we were 12-2 behind 2 plays later.

listening to Grix's interview after its going to mean the return of Scott Grix next week because apparently we lacked a leader although I thought we lacked a leader when he has played but hey ho. Woody will no doubt be dropped despite showing some of his best form that he has for Fax or at least moved in the halves where he has never really shown much for us. Robinson is probably going to miss anyway so that probably helps Grix decision but we are crying out for some quality in those 2 positions. Another ridiculous decison dropping Burrough because he didn't have the best of games up at Newcastle, yesterday would have been just the sort of game for him. We saw how much space Moore got and Burrough is twice as quick as him so once again it just seems a very random decision.

Big games coming up now like has been said. We must win the majority of them to be thinking about the top 6.

At first when all the shouting was going on up at the back I didn't realize it was LT involved until seeing some of it on Facebook and as you say Greg some of what was said such as calling one of your own supports an idiot / thick on several occasions isn't the way to go.
As one of the other Fax fans said to him "it's all right you talking about social distancing when your stood shouting at someone when your not wearing a mask yourself" after which he had to walk away.
It just shows the pressure the guys on the BOD are under because on LT 's side he also said (not all of which can be heard on the recording) something on the lines off " I / we (the other members of the BOD) are trying to save the club and get the ground opened up so you can come in, CMBC are watching the behavior and there's all this loud singing and chanting and close contact which they and thus the club has asked you not to do for every bodies sake in the current climate and your not doing it, even now your not listening, I can't deal with idiots.

Tom Grant has had issues taking some stick from the Fax faithful in the recent past, a couple of years ago I was in the East Stand and he was having what Fax thought was a real mare.
At one point this chap in front of me jumped up and shouted "that's my son out there who you lot are slagging off, he's doing is best".
Well that made it worse as you can well imagine, comments like "yes he's a real credit to the family and when we find out who his real dad is we'll tell him and "well when you get home give your misses a real slap for giving birth to him" etc etc so it's probably discussed within the family and left a scar or too.

Woody's no try, as before, definitely just short, my instant live reaction was he's in......oh Woody your short..... all you had to do was just that extra stretch and not oh ref you cheating "B".
I saw it clear from above with no obstructions and there was just about an inch of grass between the ball and line and my misses independently of me said the same thing at the same time "oh just short".
(On an Edit after watching it back from a different angle I can see it grounded just short and then what looks like the ball rolling forward onto the line with a hand still on it before it comes free, so tough one for Fax avoiding a 12 point swing if it had been given but if it had gone to the video ref it could have been chalked off for obstruction because of the collision between Hewitt and Holmes just before the touch down.)

Fev did have that bit extra, were on it in defense and looked a bit more fluent as a team which considering that 13 won't have played together that much .........and I called it as Fev by 2 scores and it was.

I think we did test them and if having a few more calls go our way and the resulting possession could have got us something we'll never know.

Disappointing Borough didn't start but you can't go with two small guys on the bench and once Ollie was included he took that slot, I think it did show in Brandon later in the game when he couldn't scoot out of dummy half as the fatigue set in.

Next week i'll go with Scott back in, Olllie into the halves.

Was just going to start a topic on Mr Turner. Wasn’t at the game but saw the posts on social media. They did not look good at all (admittedly, any slant can be put on things with social media).

There did appear to be some arrogance and contempt for the fan(s). Where does he go from here? A poorly worded/badly spelled press release? An attack on the fans? Brushing it under the carpet? Or does he fall on his sword? Either way, we’re knackered cos I can’t see any saviour rushing in to rescue the club……

Crucial point Freddie, off the field the BOD have and are working their butts off and there is no one else waiting in the wings. and for the first game back after 14 months yesterdays PR performance

These are the facts if they go the club goes.

If they stay it will take time before we can compete with the clubs that are financially better off than us off the field.

It will take time before we can pay for the better players so we can compete with those same clubs on the field.

For the first game back after 14 months yesterdays PR performance could have gone better, the fans with CMBC and LT's response with the fans.

Sorry, what's the issue with LT? Wasn't at the game - not even in the country. Don't make yourself libelous if wish to let me know.

To be fair, watching it back again and reading comments. Seems LT was trying to deal with any issue with rule breaking with one eye on Calderdale council keeping the shay open and ensuring income. Got heated on both sides. I could be wrong though

I cant disagree with any of that i will leave the LT incident alone for now i was stood about 10 yards away and i think you summed it up pretty well with what happened. As for the game i thought it would be a high scoring game but i got that wrong defences were on top i thought we held our own pretty well in the forwards and was surprised to see bourough not in the side i think he could of caused fev a lot of problems around the ruck with is pace and direct running something i think moore lacks he seems to want to run threw men rather than in to space and there was some space in that area fev seemed to defend tight out wide and rushed in to shut plays down which they did really well and we didn't take the right options at the right times giving short balls when we should have gone wide and vice verse that for me was the difference between the sides when fev moved the ball it looked crisp and threatening were we seemed indecisive and our ball players seemed hesitant in what they did they didn't have the same conviction in there plays and you will struggle to have much joy against a good defence like fevs playing like that harris inparticular looked to lack confidence he seems to be defending better but is attack seems to lack conviction i thought russell did play with conviction until he got hit late by davies a player who i rate very highly is left arm was just hanging by his side and he struggled with that for the rest of the game hopefully he can shake it of for next week as for the ref i think the penalty count was 10-3 in fevs favour weather that was justified or not i think good refs should be seen but not heard ie not the centre of attention the game isn't about them but some of them do seem to enjoy the attention as for the top six the margin for error gets tighter by the week the pressure is on grix to delver and the players

Just listened to the post-game interviews with Grix, I thought you guys played pretty well overall and it was a good contest but Grix has kind of thrown Harris and Woodburn Hall under the bus there hasn't he, think you're going to see his brother back at full back soon for sure.