Were still in Lancashire Ian, going up to Cumberland later today. Not taking owt away from Barrow, they were far and away the better team. The shocking thing about yesterday was the players attitude, some just didn't look interested and that is unacceptable. Anyroad, off up to The Lakes today and a visit to Hawkshead Brewery Tap. Rugby can take a back seat. Up The Fax!

All I'll say is if they don't buck their ideas up fast kiss goodbye to the top 5 - next four games are big in terms of the end of the season for me - Fax are capable of winning 3/4 of these games - personally think the Semi against St Helens is our remaining season highlight now....

i'd have to agree about the Semis being our highlight now. We've always managed to stay in and around the pack because we could beat those below us and aim to pick off 1 or 2 above, it worked. The losses to Batley & Barrow have nailed the coffin for me this year. Unless there is a complete turnaround, its just too far out of reach for us. i cant see us beating anyone other than Bradford in the teams above us and that's being very optimistic.

one of Grix or QLT needs dropping, i simply do NOT understand either of them being at half back. You have an absolute star in the making in JWH and he hasn't put a foot wrong in my opinion this year when at half back so it boggles to put him at centre or on the bench.

i think Simon Grix will come good personally, could well be wrong but i dont think he's the issue.

If we learned anything from yesterday at all it was JWH is not a centre.

I am only guessing here, but we are at that time of year where clubs will be offering new contracts for next season. In the past few years, the majority of our squad has been retained and therefore have stuck together as a group. Maybe this year, quite a few of the squad have already been told they won’t be offered a deal or they don’t expect to stay and this could be impacting on our performances

Good point.Contract negotiations should not be allowed until season end but i accept those days are long gone.

I don't do social media but my partner showed me a post by Rob Pidgeon & I totally agree with him it takes me a fair bit of time/effort & commitment +Finance to support the Team at the very least I expect the same from them

Absolutely BM.

I can understand why the timings have moved for player welfare reasons and to rightly give them some assurances and certainty of employment/earnings. But it is bound to have an impact on performances for your current employer should you know you won’t be with them or are not wanted by them for the following season. I am not saying the players won’t be trying, but this is a tough sport where just a marginal drop in focus/desire will have an impact.

Agree with you that if there is anyone clearly not putting a shift in then out you go and let someone else have a chance. I’m not sure they are coasting though and I’m sure they go out on the pitch with best intentions. But as well as the obvious physicality of the game, there’s the psychological element. Without really realising some players might not be 100% on it.

I think that's a solid point. In the NRL, some guys have contracts signed with other clubs for the subsequent season before a ball has been kicked. On the opposite extreme, they also offer out 10 years deals like the Cowboys did Taumalolo and Bulldogs are trying to do with Latrell Mitchell. Be intrigued to see who goes but we need a strike centre, 2-3 new props and potentially brand new 6 and 7.

Yes, it must be disappointing to be told you are not required, Don't know about you guys but it has happened to me. The opportunity the players have is they can put them selves in the shop window for potential employers, therefore making it negative to not try their best. On the other side, players who have secured employment away from the club have no reason to try, but are supposed superstars, and those who have yet to be offered a contract, should not they be busting a gut to earn one for next year? so all in all the team should be firing on all cylinders, not a downward slide.

Weren't many cylinders firing on Sunday...

Anyone watching Jordan Abdull last night dispelled the lack of professionalism in certain players.
MOM against HKR -who he's rejoining next season-could even relegate them and nullify his contract.
By the way-what a great game it was too.

Yep it certainly was a good game and Abdull was totally professional apart from the (interception) pass to his 2020 teammates late on that they should have scored from and won the game with