Well behave yourself and stop winding me up.
Partly right

Re the above. How corrupt are the people running our game?

The RFL have somewhere between little or no genuine interest in the championship or grass roots RL, and The SL chairmen view us like putting the garbage out once a week.
This is the tip of the iceberg. They make the FA look like moral saints, and that takes some doing...... A Monty Python sketch wouldn’t do SL chairmen and the RFL justice, they are utterly inept.

So people need to ask themselves is it right that on a whim (the possible relegation of a club in this case sounds like Catalans) a group of clubs in a sport (in this case SL clubs) decide to divert some of their funding (mostly given to them by the RFL) to help that club potentially get promoted back to the league they were relegated from?
Surely the governing body should control how funds are distributed and this scenario sets a very dangerous precedent - we like you club X so we will get the cap out and ask all the other clubs to put money in to help you beat the rest of the teams in the league below and come back up, but only because it is you?
Is that fair?
No.

The more I read the more I get dismayed at the state of our sport. I am on the verge of giving it all a miss and becoming a sport down and out, the game is corrupt the lords of the game don t care unless you are on the top table and that clearly is going to be invitation only again. Mr. Wood is possibly going on to cause more mayhem at a higher level.
Living where I do I might just start following Ping Pong, but that is probably rigged too !

I agree with you. It is all about how much money SL can get and sod the rest of the RL structure. SL clubs view that they don't need lower clubs as their academies will pick up all the good young players and then discard them when they don't make the cut. TV rights are the only thing on their agendas.

I did say that pretty much sums it up. They don’t care about the young kids that don’t make the grade, and to be fair the numbers here are pretty low, so in terms of their well-being it’s a nonstarter.

A bigger bunch of w@nkers you probably could meet if you tried.

Exactly my point that I had a rant about when Charlie pushed my button.
If true, It's now gone a step beyond being able to buy your way in, now we have "and if you need a bit extra we will help you pay for it."

Surely the most worrying aspect is that this £½m was aimed at one specific club - Catalans.

The fact that Leigh got it is, perhaps, a side issue.

Be fair Fax, I wasn't trying to wind anyone up , just stating the way it was, granted I didn't report it as well as Binosh but I'm just a mere Clown.
But in a round about way my statement was true, hope to see you soon.

Just because "anyone could've got this money but it just happened to be Leigh" doesn't make it right.

Leigh are already getting the biggest wedge in the division and now they're getting anoth £½m.

Let's put it is perspective. Leigh are getting about ten times more central funding than Barrow.

Why ?

This proves yet again that the RFL do not run the game just a cosy cartel of Super Greed Clubs the rest can fall by the wayside.
This payment has changed the Dynamics of the Championship it dosnt matter if its Leigh Catalan or Fax or any other Club receiving this payment imo unethical & immoral

The RFL are keen on the expression "integrity of the competition".

I've no idea how this correlates with the size of Leigh's distribution.

Please help me understand.

We are all equal but some are more equal than others .....

Well I'm going to put forward Bradford as the start of it.
Why?
Because when they lost the million pound game and were relegated people at every level within the club lost their jobs and the club sank lower and lower.

(Note: This was the original idea and reason for any form of "parachute payment" to be put forward, to protect individuals and it's now been corrupted and missused.)

The fact that Bradfords demise allthough coming down to 1 game had it's roots through multiple poor management fiascos and multiple rescue attempts with the full involvement of the RFL over a number of years is maybe worth a mention.

Furthermore, Bradford being such an "iconic" club involved it resonated far beyond just them.
I suspect if it had been Wakefield no one would give a rats ass.
( No offence meant toward Wakefield.)
( Edit added. Who just stuffed us by 60 odd points so it would be even less if it were Fax involved.)

When this happened again to HKR they were really worried about a similar impact happening to them and although they managed to to avoid it and bounce back at the first attempt the potential implications of life outside SL now reached panic levels from all but the mightiest of the existing SL clubs.

Anyone who felt they could suffer the same fate and be relegated immediately called for P&R to be scrapped and licensing in one form or another to be reinstated.
Other clubs who were in no real danger of being relegated soon backed those that were because of the indirect implications.

A couple of examples are.
Bradford gone and along with them the Bradford / Leeds derby games and large loss of paying turnstile support and the "Big Game" TV coverage that went with it.

HKR gone (for a year as it turned out) and the loss of the Hull / HKR derby games and the large loss of paying turnstyle support loss and the "Big Game" TV coverage that went with it.

Answer, take away the jeopardy and close the door.

(Note: It's okay for SL clubs to expect everyone outside SL to make do with the scraps but not when SL clubs suddenly find themselves having to do so and after years of neglect the clubs outside SL slowly shrink and starve to death the SL clubs say there not strong enough to make it in SL anyway, even though it's the SL clubs who have helped starve them in the fist place!!!!!)

At the end of the day there's clearly not enough resources such as money, quality players, stadia, officials etc etc to run the game across 3 divisions and it's hardest of all on those outside SL,clubs and supporters.

Griff,I totally agree that it is not right,and agree it gives Leigh a big advantage, but I bet there are no Clubs in the whole of the RFL,who would refuse such a donation, it would be crazy,I like to think I'm a fair Fan, but to me if you are Saints, Wigan, Toronto, Fax, Swinton, York , or Coventry Bears you wouldn't refuse the cash.
Again you are probably right about Barrow and the amount of funding they receive less than Leigh,you ask Why?The answer is Leigh by finishing bottom of SL last year effectively finished 12th in Rugby League,making our funding higher than Barrows.
I'm not sure what the funding was but the previous season Fax in reality finished higher than Leigh, and received more Funding than Leigh, Fax however chose to spend their funding in other ways than Leigh did,and it showed in the Final Table last year.
Each Club chooses to spend their funding allocation how they see fit.Stay Happy.

So you don't think it's right, you're a fair fan but you'd take it anyway.

OK.

[Part quote="charlie caroli"Griff,I totally agree that it is not right,and agree it gives Leigh a big advantage, but I bet there are no Clubs in the whole of the RFL,who would refuse such a donation, it would be crazy,I like to think I'm a fair Fan, but to me if you are Saints, Wigan, Toronto, Fax, Swinton, York , or Coventry Bears you wouldn't refuse the cash.)

Yes Charlie, but a payment of this type to give any club a big advantage in an open fair competion should not be allowed in the first place.
The payment was intended to give some security to players and others who were under threat of losing their jobs due to being relegated.
Is there anything in Rugby league these days that isn't being missused and corrupted.



Even then there's a glaring contradiction in that the players and coaching staff of a relegated club get finacial protection for what amounts to not being good enough to safe guard there own jobs so someone else should pick up the tab.
Jukes as been bleating on about how unfair this is ever since Leigh went down, well he coached the side to relegation, if it was anyone else that isn't good enough at their job they would be dimissed with jack all.

Of course I would take it,I may be a Clown , but I'm not crazy,all the great teams , players,Coaches in any sport would accept an edge if it was offered to them,Legally of course,even yer own Tubbs would accept one, let's be real,if the Eagles were offered half a million quid , Mr Aston would say No thanks.Really?

How do you reconcile that with being a "fair fan" ?

Not that that's the point. The point is that the differential between top and bottom was far too high even before your extra £½m.

Faxy, I agree with you,it may not be ethically right, but as they say, You don't look a gift horse in the mouth.In my opinion Jukesy failed last year and should have walked or been told to leave , as a lot of players were, however he's still here and now we as Leigh fans must baCK him,for me a thing less than a top 2 finish will be failure this season, we have recited well in my opinion, and as I said previously we received a bigger Central Funding because of our League position, as did Fax the previous year, your management chose to spend it on Jnr development and other things, we have chosen a big recruitment drive this year, but had no choice after the amount of players we lost.
We will have to see the outcome as the season unfolds,FWIW, I think Fax will have a decent season.

Not looking a ethically incorrect gift horse in the mouth can, in some circumstances, get you jailed.

I wouldn't recommend it as a general principle of life.

I reconcile being a fair fan, by acknowledging the half a million may not be right,Leigh didn't ask for this windfall, you didn't answer my question about whether either Tubbs or your good self would accept such a windfall if it fell in your lap?

We're not the ones claiming to be fair fans.

Griff we ALL know in certain circumstances this principle in life can get you jailed which is why I said Legally,myself personally I have never had any form of criminal record in my life, but again I would accept a gift of whatever amount given to me if it was Legal,and so would most RFL Chairmen if it came their way.