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| Quote ="Officeboy"Where? You simply said something about Tony Fax being a moaning whingebag. Hardly condemning the content of the post.'"
Correct. I was replying to a post he put on here concerning myself and was referring to his disgraceful slurring of Mr Steele without wanting to get into a tit for tat situation. I should have been more specific. Without the likes of Mr Steele there possibly wouldn't be a Halifax RLFC as we know it and I would like to state here and now my thanks for all the hard work, and money, he has put into our club. Up The Fax.
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| Our good friend Huddshay retires tomorrow,not from this board unfortunately .Anyone wanting to buy him a drink and discuss the merits of DR,Percy Shaws from 430pm.
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| Unfortunately the perfect storm is brewing, 2 years of falling short on the field, and several years of slow decline, with the odd on field peak, and a new minibus.
If the money isn't in place, the infrastructure and players need to be bang on, if none of it is in place, were in do do.
Let's not be too kind to the players here, we've given away some soft points this year.
For me we need to cut our cloth even more and have a large cull of the first team, not up to it for a second year in a row.
The reserves have been better than some of the senior pros this year, do yer catch my drift?
Keyboard Bashing an old man like Michael is'nt right, he's been consistently prudent, and im sure if he had 20 million to spare he have spent more on us. It's not his fault the game is unattractive at our level to all but Des and few local businessmens egos.
There's not enough exposure at our level, Fax TV is limited at best, an opportunity being missed, but while the performance are rubbish, its probably better fewer people see it.
Why would anyone but a fan want to give up their time for little success and a load of stress. We're very close now to being only diehards left.
And for what its worth, Tony is right about the Shay, both clubs need a proper home, not a rented match day pitch and a couple of offices, with a bar. Don't underestimate a thriving social club or a proper training ground set up.
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| Quote ="mr t hall"Our good friend Huddshay retires tomorrow,not from this board unfortunately
.Anyone wanting to buy him a drink and discuss the merits of DR,Percy Shaws from 430pm.'"
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| I have to say some rubbish and some good in this post.
I'll leave it at that
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| Quote ="Officeboy"Saddest part of this thread is that not one person mentioned the disgraceful personal attack on Michael Steele which Tony Fax opened up with. A man who has spent more of his own money, given more of his own time and fought the Club's corner more than probably anyone else in the last 10 years, in the pursuit of delivering stability and success so that you lot have something to bleat about.
Despicable.'"
You've never liked me Office Boy. I know that. But to dis me in this way is despicable on your own part. Where have I mentioned Michael Steele? Then you go on about me putting in more of my own money and time than anyone else during the past 10 years. Thanks for the plaudits, O Boy, but I won't take the praise because I haven't a clue what you're on about!
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| Quote ="Tony Fax"You've never liked me Office Boy. I know that. But to dis me in this way is despicable on your own part. Where have I mentioned Michael Steele? Then you go on about me putting in more of my own money and time than anyone else during the past 10 years. Thanks for the plaudits, O Boy, but I won't take the praise because I haven't a clue what you're on about!'"
Are you on summat?
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| Quote ="Tony Fax"You've never liked me Office Boy. I know that. But to dis me in this way is despicable on your own part. Where have I mentioned Michael Steele? Then you go on about me putting in more of my own money and time than anyone else during the past 10 years. Thanks for the plaudits, O Boy, but I won't take the praise because I haven't a clue what you're on about!'"
It was in your original post that you edited nearly 48 hours after posting
Take me to your dealer.
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| Quote ="Tony Fax"You've never liked me Office Boy. I know that. But to dis me in this way is despicable on your own part. Where have I mentioned Michael Steele? Then you go on about me putting in more of my own money and time than anyone else during the past 10 years. Thanks for the plaudits, O Boy, but I won't take the praise because I haven't a clue what you're on about!'"
To quote your original post... "Michael Steele, for example, has been as much use as a chocolate tea cup.".
I've had the pleasure of meeting Michael a couple of times, albeit fairly briefly, and he has the good of HRLFC running through his blood.
Just because you edit a post, it doesn't mean that you didn't say it in the first place.
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| The purpose of my edit was to correct a spelling mistake. Anyway, I'm not taking jip from Office Boy whose early involvement at the club with his "buddy" Nigel Wood started the slippery slope to where we are now. The Chuckle Brothers would have done a better job. And (on another note?) they also most likely would have spent the combined Thrum Hall proceeds and the lottery grant on actually "completing" the Shay Stadium rather than leaving it half finished ............... Hmmmmmm, that stand was expensive
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| Quote ="Tony Fax"The purpose of my edit was to correct a spelling mistake. Anyway, I'm not taking jip from Office Boy whose early involvement at the club with his "buddy" Nigel Wood started the slippery slope to where we are now. The Chuckle Brothers would have done a better job. And (on another note?) they also most likely would have spent the combined Thrum Hall proceeds and the lottery grant on actually "completing" the Shay Stadium rather than leaving it half finished ............... Hmmmmmm, that stand was expensive
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Your original post made a derogatory comment about Mr Steele, which you later edited out. I agree that the whole debacle that surrounds the Shay is laughable, but Fax don't come out smelling of roses whichever story you believe. Any which way you look at it, it's not realising its potential for either club.
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| Quitting with only 3 months as Finance Director after predicting a small surplus for the season at the supporters meeting has to be a worry.
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| Quote ="Tony Fax"You've never liked me Office Boy. I know that. '"
I ain't got a clue who you are to dislike you, but I obviously dislike what you put about Michael. And if you really believe I had any influence or power to affect anything that happened at Thrum Hall you'll believe anything.
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| Michael Steele is a gentleman and a Halifax hero as far as im concerned, he deserves every positive plaudit. Who would want to be Chairman of a club with some of the idiots that we have on social media.
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| I've met Michael Steele on a number of occasions and I have nothing but the highest regard for him. He is Halifax through and through. He has put a great deal of time,effort and more importantly his own money to keep the club going. Being a director of any sports club isn't easy but at least he has had the balls to do it. It's easy to sit on the sideline and criticise but let's respect people for what they have done even if they are not personally liked by everyone.
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| Well said Faxlad and Pellon Boy.
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| Quote ="faxcar""But supporters shouldn't have the attitude that "I am just happy to have a club to support".
I don't think anyone is saying that or thinking that, everyone who follows a sports team wants them to be winning or at least be competitive other wise what's the point?
Saying "We have a club and it could be worse" is not the same as saying "I am just happy to have a club to support".
The worse equates to not having a club to support because they have gone bust.
To survive and compete the problem Fax and others have is that decisions are being made such as to league structures by the whim of others who care only about themselves, wanting more and more that we can do nothing about.
All SL clubs have a vote on what the structure of SL will be, the RFL and Sky will have to ratify it but there is no way in which they will oppose what the SL giants want and disturb their own nice little comfort zone.
Although the SL clubs do not directly vote on what the Championship clubs do, the SL clubs decisions very much dictate to the rest what they will be left with, which after SL have finished doesn't amount to much.
The RFL and SL took away promotion and relegation, they took away TV coverage, they took away the Grand Final, they took away the Northern Rail Cup, most of them scrapped their reserve set ups and used Championship clubs as a reserve side etc etc etc.
They want it to become like Australia with the elite clubs and the rest are just feeder clubs.
Apart from the internal problems each club has to face, as said who would want to become an owner, benefactor, investor or supporter with this type of set up?
The game at this level will not attract any significant interest from anyone at any level and the original few who remain from the old days will slowly but surely get fewer.'"
Top post totally agree the SL clubs OWN the sport and the RFL are powerless to stop them doing just what they want, despite what we all think of the RFL the problem with RL lies well and truly at the door of the some selfish SL club Directors who don't give a toss about the long term future of the game they only care about themselves and their clubs.
The last 2 weeks has shown how bad things have got playing once great clubs back in the day who both play out of town with Oldham at Stalybridge and Swinton who play at Sale RUFC to 500 home fans tops, this at the second level of RL!!!
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| Quote ="faxlad66"Michael Steele is a gentleman and a Halifax hero as far as im concerned, he deserves every positive plaudit. Who would want to be Chairman of a club with some of the idiots that we have on social media.'"
Well said without people like Michael there would be no club the current state of our club is down to stay away fans and the state of the game at our level, yes we are not a great team at the moment but we are not facing winding up orders well not as far as I know anyway!
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| Can't fully remember as i wasn't so old enough but seem to recall a similar witch hunt of Tony Gartland who subsequently pulled his money out of the club.
Might not be correct and obviously dont know the full details but lets not push people away who have been investing money in the club.
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| Quote ="mr t hall"Our good friend Huddshay retires tomorrow,not from this board unfortunately
.Anyone wanting to buy him a drink and discuss the merits of DR,Percy Shaws from 430pm.'" Good do last night mate enjoy your retirement.Big shout to whoever bought you the Salford City Reds gift bag.
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| Quote ="Uptonfax"Can't fully remember as i wasn't so old enough but seem to recall a similar witch hunt of Tony Gartland who subsequently pulled his money out of the club.
Might not be correct and obviously dont know the full details but lets not push people away who have been investing money in the club.'" Tony Gartland left as he was in favour of mergers and his wife was verbally abused during the protests.He left his money in the club as it would have folded otherwise.Always hoped he'd come back one day after the dust settled but it never materialised.
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| I remember reading Tony saying, as well as watching the match he had started to count how many fans were coming through the turnstiles for the games.
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