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| C' on H J, that second punch was either orders from above or a cowardly action. Maybe sine Die is harsh but in effect 3 months lets the whole of rugby know it is a tolerable offence if you are one of the 'chosen' few.
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| Quote ="the fax in asia"C' on H J, that second punch was either orders from above or a cowardly action. Maybe sine Die is harsh but in effect 3 months lets the whole of rugby know it is a tolerable offence if you are one of the 'chosen' few.'"
As I have said above I agree with you.
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| Anger management course ?
Hahahaha, they train rugby players to be aggressive from a young age, if you can't hack it, you ain't gonna make it it's as simple as that.
They train to get into the best physical shape they can be in, they give them supplements to enhance their stronger attributes, they give them psychological lectures to give them the edge, their speccies pump them up all week 'cos it's THE biggest game to them, they want blood.
Most of us whoever played RL would have dreamt of playing in a game like that, just imaginethat walk onto the pitch with everything going off around you & the noise & colours.
I can fully understand how Flowers reacted & as i watched the game in real time as it happened live at home on tv i was absolutely shocked at what i saw, so all of you that crave the "bring back the biff" type of slogan or attitude just think before saying it or be prepared for the consequences. I always thought it was an unwritten rule that props didn't belt half backs & if my memory serves me correctly, if that had happened on an amateur field things would have escalated fairly quickly and a lot differently to the victim's team mates pointing to the ref !!!!
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| Some of the nicest blokes who I played rugby with turned in to nasty people when on the pitch but to a man i can honestly say I never saw and would never imagine any of them doing someone on the floor like that. Without getting in to pyscho babble I would imagine if something kicked off in a town centre then a person like Flower would be in the centre of it because he lacks self control and it puts him in a position where he is probably a high percentage risk of getting in to trouble because of that problem.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Some of the nicest blokes who I played rugby with turned in to nasty people when on the pitch but to a man i can honestly say I never saw and would never imagine any of them doing someone on the floor like that. Without getting in to pyscho babble I would imagine if something kicked off in a town centre then a person like Flower would be in the centre of it because he lacks self control and it puts him in a position where he is probably a high percentage risk of getting in to trouble because of that problem.'"
No different to Halifax players then eh ? Broken jaw at a bbq, 12 match ban last season. Come on GFB's......
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| Quote ="marillion man"No different to Halifax players then eh ? Broken jaw at a bbq, 12 match ban last season. Come on GFB's......'"
Cant comment on the BBQ incident because I wasnt there but I would rather one of our players did what Dane did than what Flower did every single day of the week. One is a cowardly act a defenseless person where as Danes was a nothing tackle and then stand up fight. There is a line when it comes to anger issues and Flower is way way over it, most people can control situations like that, the odd one or two cant.
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| It wasn't exactly a "nothing tackle" from Dane, he admitted himself that he was trying to make his presence felt. He deserved his ban for the shot on Sam, and made the following melee worse by running round the back of the referee for round 2 after things had supposedly calmed down......
.....that said, we and everyone else can argue whether or not 10 matches was fair or not, but IMO what Flower did was far, far worse. 6 months was probably right - but starting from the next competitive (Super League) fixture.
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