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| Exodus of players will begin this week with London looking to announce the long rumoured signing of Adamson. To be fair though managing to keep hold of Manning and Divorty after interest from other teams and including Bracek and possibly Robinson in there we really should not miss him.
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| Let's say we stick with Harrison...
How are we going to attract anyone new to the club? Fans/players/sponsors? How are we going to convince the stay aways to come back who are staying away because of the boring, passionless rugby we've had for nearly 3 years.
New fans - Come and pay £15 to watch a great, exciting sport where you'll be richly entertained and which really delivers value for money when compared to SL clubs. Errrr...
Stay away fans - Come and watch your team really strive to get back to where we once were and where we believe we should be, back to the glory days with attractive, entertaining rugby to make you come back for more. Errrr...
Players - Come to a club where you'll play in front of packed crowds playing free-flowing, expansive rugby, you won't be criticised publically in the press and knowing if you're in form you'll be picked to play in the team and build great relationship with your teammates. Errrr...
Sponsors - They are seriously well looked after and the packages they receive in the East Stand are definitely competing at SL level. Then they'll go out to their seats/viewing area and see how their money is being 'used'.
It's easy just to stand still and stick with what we've got. Standing still doesn't move us forward though. We've got to move on to move forward.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Exodus of players will begin this week with London looking to announce the long rumoured signing of Adamson. To be fair though managing to keep hold of Manning and Divorty after interest from other teams and including Bracek and possibly Robinson in there we really should not miss him.'"
Your closer than most on this subject GFB.
This weeks RL press quotes KH saying concerning players, Halifax have agreements in place and will be announcing departures, new arrivals and re signings in the next few weeks.
So it looks like Karl will still be here.
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| Sorry Karl (great player and Fax through and through we accept that and respect the man) get rid = sack
This club has 'lost its fans' a bit like he seems to have 'lost the dressing room' for me as how can a team play so badly in two big games and only play to their true potential in about 6 games all season?
The club are playing Russian roulette by giving Karl a new contract, if they do then be prepared to lose more fans and suffer a hit on their income, surely they cannot be stupid enough to give him a 3 year deal can they?????
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| Be honest, how many of you wanted Karl as coach even while Matt was in charge?
Come on, be honest.
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| I wanted Alex Murphy. Lovely lad
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| Quote ="halifaxjohn"Be honest, how many of you wanted Karl as coach even while Matt was in charge?
Come on, be honest.'"
Yer me and I am sad it has not worked out and even sadder that I like many are getting on the big fellas case BUT the club is bigger than one man and right now the club have to make the right decision for its own good and make the change to get fans back on-board, otherwise pay the consequences and looking at the 4 full time teams next year we will not make that spin dryer league and will be drift wood.
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| If he signs a new contract I'm afraid it's a big slap in the face to most of the fans. He's just not what Fax need now. Time to part ways and move on.
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| TBH I was one of the few that said I didn't think he was right for the club when appointed but was prepared to give him time and that if our method was going to be to grind out wins I can live with that if it works, I'm sure I can dig out my posts if anyone wants proof. I just never thought he was right for the club, we need a recent ex super league player with fresh ideas, recent knowledge and kills of the game and experience. This ex player coming back stuff never works.
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| Here is my idea I have floated around some folk.
We need to address the training issue I think - surely we have something in this town?
My idea was to move KH to Director of Football, he has the clout in rugby league and knowledge just like Martin Hall did. He does a lot behind the scenes and for me, a great help for Fax TV. Bring someone in as head coach, may be a younger coach? To work with KH but has their own ideas? Sean Long - the only issue I have with Sean, he doesn't seem to stay anywhere long enough. Another person - Danny Orr?
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| Good ideas Triran. Question is, could the club afford any or all three of those options? And, as I said before, would you "rent" any if your facilities to the club, knowing the problems there has been with rent over the last couple of years?
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| Quote ="triran"Here is my idea I have floated around some folk.
We need to address the training issue I think - surely we have something in this town?
My idea was to move KH to Director of Football, he has the clout in rugby league and knowledge just like Martin Hall did. He does a lot behind the scenes and for me, a great help for Fax TV. Bring someone in as head coach, may be a younger coach? To work with KH but has their own ideas? Sean Long - the only issue I have with Sean, he doesn't seem to stay anywhere long enough. Another person - Danny Orr?'"
I agree with you in principle, my concern would be could our club go down this road financially, I really would like our bod to put out a statement to the fans explaining our current situation and plans for the next 3 seasons. I think communication between club and fans is appalling, this does not include Fax tv which as been a breath of fresh air.
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| Quote ="freddies wig"Good ideas Triran. Question is, could the club afford any or all three of those options? And, as I said before, would you "rent" any if your facilities to the club, knowing the problems there has been with rent over the last couple of years?'"
There is more to the "rent" saga than we will ever know. Now the "sale" saga has passed, I think the "rent" saga has passed - as they were probably connected.
In regards could we afford this setup. Probably not, hence a young cheap coach?
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| Out of interest - where would be the best place for training in Halifax be? - may need to start a new thread!
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| It would probably never happen, but I personally would love to see both clubs put their heads together (for once) and find a good training solution that works for both clubs. A proper base for not just on pitch training sessions, but a gym, indoor work areas (for when the training pitch(es) are too muddy, etc.
Its not something that would happen over night, but its something they could aspire for.
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| Quote ="triran"There is more to the "rent" saga than we will ever know. Now the "sale" saga has passed, I think the "rent" saga has passed - as they were probably connected.
In regards could we afford this setup. Probably not, hence a young cheap coach?'"
A young coach would be very good for you , one with passion and hunger for the game , but I still think you need an older head to guide this Young Coach , Fax have plenty of experienced blokes who need an older figurehead to look to , is Brian Noble the answer ?Im not sure , after watching Karl on Fax TV , it seems like a few players will be heading for the Exit doors at the end of the Season .Heres a suggestion ,what about Stuart Littler from Leigh ?Hes doing a bit of Coaching at the moment , is young , eager to learn , probably available , put him with an older Mentor , it could work .
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| Quote ="Fax4Life"..... looking at the 4 full time teams next year.....'"
Only 3 for definite: Bradford, London and Leigh. Possibly Donny, but only if they finish 2nd. Fev aren't going fulltime whatever, and I doubt there's anyone else planning to be.
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| Bubba - I think this is the most feasible way forward. Like you say, probably never happen.
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| I don't believe that Harrison is capable of stepping back and taking a Director of Football role. He looks like he is the kind of person that would appoint a yes man as coach then run the team from the background.
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| Im just not sure where the club can go from here. If they give Harrison another contract now it is going to cost them literally thousands in lost revenue and sponsorship so as has been said they really are left with 2 choices, he goes now or they simply do not renew his contract. Either way it has to be done as soon as possible to give as much time as possible to get the right coaching team in place.
The main problem is getting someone in for the first year and them knowing they have to use Harrisons signings that have been made(although it does look like a pretty strong team on paper) and almost could be treading water in their first year until they can make their own player changes.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Im just not sure where the club can go from here. If they give Harrison another contract now it is going to cost them literally thousands in lost revenue and sponsorship so as has been said they really are left with 2 choices, he goes now or they simply do not renew his contract. Either way it has to be done as soon as possible to give as much time as possible to get the right coaching team in place.
The main problem is getting someone in for the first year and them knowing they have to use Harrisons signings that have been made(although it does look like a pretty strong team on paper) and almost could be treading water in their first year until they can make their own player changes.'"
I firmly believe that we have a lot of talent in our team. I struggle to think of one player in the main squad who i would immediately say is just not good enough. What they lack is direction, organisation, cohesion and motivation and I do not believe that KH is capable of providing any of this.
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| Quote ="Fax Machine"I firmly believe that we have a lot of talent in our team. I struggle to think of one player in the main squad who i would immediately say is just not good enough. What they lack is direction, organisation, cohesion and motivation and I do not believe that KH is capable of providing any of this.'"
90% agree,but there are 3/4 players i hope we don't retain.
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| Quote ="mr t hall"90% agree,but there are 3/4 players i hope we don't retain.'"
I agree there are a few who are average at best and we should always be looking to improve and strengthen but, according to the last Fax TV episode signings have been made for next season but will not be announced until current season is over.
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| Quote ="Bubba"It would probably never happen, but I personally would love to see both clubs put their heads together (for once) and find a good training solution that works for both clubs. A proper base for not just on pitch training sessions, but a gym, indoor work areas (for when the training pitch(es) are too muddy, etc.
Its not something that would happen over night, but its something they could aspire for.'"
Good idea provided the sharing arrangement is 50/50 and sensible and I suggest the facility is run by a joint management team separate to the 2 clubs say Halifax Training funded again 50/50 by both clubs and when possible rented to whoever wants to use it when it is availbale? There is land around that could be used, not a lot often in 'green belt' but that does not mean it cannot be used for 'open space & sport' but it will take time and money, now here is an idea the clubs could ask fans to help do a 'raise the roof' type effort say go for £20K from the two sets of supporters?
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| Don't Town use Spring Hall?
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