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| Quote ="freddies wig"The disgusting thing is they are considered "iconic" cos they were successful in super league. What's completely ignored is they did it with money that wasn't theirs that is never gonna be paid back.
Then fans of championship clubs were slaughtered for saying the RFL bought Odsal to prevent administration and that fans were mugs for chucking £500K into the black hole. The arrogance from super league was staggering. Any non SL club would have been allowed to disappear. Double standards - you can keep Super League'"
Not forgetting the way Fax's application was termed as ' speculative ' when they were forced to justify their actions due to their own poor management
No wonder we have club owners questioning the sports administration
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| Led me to believe that the applications of those clubs outside Super League were thoroughly checked but those of clubs in or deemed necessary to SL were not checked, just to avoid embarrassment. I give you Crusaders, Bulls, Wildcats, Reds and Tigers. Anyone speaking out was duly warned and insulted in the press.
Brilliant system eh? I think licensing, if administered correctly and being in place for correct and sporting reasons would be great.
Instead, we get this shambolic mess overseen by incompetent, blinkered buffoons!
Didn't we get battered by Smokey and his gang for saying such when the system was introduced Mr Bug?
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| All I have to say is well done Richard Lewis CBE for bringing in licencing.
(God knows how he got the CBE.)
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| The more you hear about it the worse it gets. Why would any club want to join the corrupt mess that is SL at present? The most disgusting aspect of the whole bulls fiasco is how they screwed their own fans of £500,000! It stinks.
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"The more you hear about it the worse it gets. Why would any club want to join the corrupt mess that is SL at present? The most disgusting aspect of the whole bulls fiasco is how they screwed their own fans of £500,000! It stinks.'"
I've suggested many times the focus of the Championship Clubs should have been building themselves and the competition by working collectively for financial susstainability
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| Quote ="Starbug"I've suggested many times the focus of the Championship Clubs should have been building themselves and the competition by working collectively for financial susstainability'"
I couldn't agree more.
The trouble is that the top clubs in the Championship are still begging to join the car wreck that is SL.
I think the time has come for the Championships to ignore SL and get together to make their clubs as strong as they can be both on and off the field, reclaim our game and leave the SL clubs to go their own way. One by one they will crash and burn until they are left with the few clubs who are financially viable and a few of those will be stuffed when their sugar daddies either die or lose interest.
Once they are down to 4 or 5 clubs and the attendances have diminished drastically through sheer lack of interest they might finally realise the error of their ways.
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| Quote ="Fax Machine"I couldn't agree more.
The trouble is that the top clubs in the Championship are still begging to join the car wreck that is SL.
I think the time has come for the Championships to ignore SL and get together to make their clubs as strong as they can be both on and off the field, reclaim our game and leave the SL clubs to go their own way. One by one they will crash and burn until they are left with the few clubs who are financially viable and a few of those will be stuffed when their sugar daddies either die or lose interest.
Once they are down to 4 or 5 clubs and the attendances have diminished drastically through sheer lack of interest they might finally realise the error of their ways.'"
1 season sitting down and plotting out the course and then now 4 years later , we could have seen income streams starting to build, but as you say, we still have directors in the championship standing starry eyed with a bowl hoping to catch some scraps from the SL table
Does anybody seriously believe that the restructure ( when and in whatever format it takes ) is being done in the interests of the lower tiers?
When the power struggle has finished and we have some reasonable stability the Championship owners should demand the appointment of a ' Championship Director ' , whose sole responsibility is the development of the lower tier competitions and clubs in them
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| Bulls - no way back from this-needs a fresh start in the lowerbleagues and build back up
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| Don't bring that trash down here!
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| Quote ="littlerich"Don't bring that trash down here!'"
Priceless!
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| Quote ="freddies wig"The disgusting thing is they are considered "iconic" cos they were successful in super league. What's completely ignored is they did it with money that wasn't theirs that is never gonna be paid back.
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live by the sword, die by the sword I reckon
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| Quote ="Starbug"I've suggested many times the focus of the Championship Clubs should have been building themselves and the competition by working collectively for financial susstainability'"
does this mean we should be helping Swinton?
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| Quote ="thefaxfanman"does this mean we should be helping Swinton?'"
Yes, a fine club with a great tradition.
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| Quote ="thefaxfanman"does this mean we should be helping Swinton?'"
Yes, and Oxford, and Gateshead, and any other club outside SL
BUT, we also should have the final say on who joins us in the future
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| In the near future I can see the top 10 SL clubs breaking away anyway.
What the Championship needs is there own TV deal NOT to be shown on a Thursday night !
From a Doncaster fan.
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| Quote ="weighman"In the near future I can see the top 10 SL clubs breaking away anyway.
What the Championship needs is there own TV deal NOT to be shown on a Thursday night !
From a Doncaster fan.'"
Only knock out matches should be shown live, NRC or play off matches only, league matches should be featured in a highlights/review/preview Boots n All type show ( produced by the clubs themselves if neccessary ) idealy on FTA Tv that could sell sponsoship or arvertising a la Irn Bru with SL
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| Quote ="freddies wig"Led me to believe that the applications of those clubs outside Super League were thoroughly checked but those of clubs in or deemed necessary to SL were not checked, just to avoid embarrassment. I give you Crusaders, Bulls, Wildcats, Reds and Tigers. Anyone speaking out was duly warned and insulted in the press.
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Instead, we get this shambolic mess overseen by incompetent, blinkered buffoons!
Didn't we get battered by Smokey and his gang for saying such when the system was introduced Mr Bug?'"
You joking right? Franchising will always be open to interpretation and consequently being manipulated to suit those who are the judge and juries of it, as we know they slated our application or allowed it to be publicly ridiculed but how can anybody prove anything either way when its all cloak and dagger stuff?
Franchising lends itself to favouritism and corruption. Can't wait for the day it is binned.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Only knock out matches should be shown live, NRC or play off matches only, league matches should be featured in a highlights/review/preview Boots n All type show ( produced by the clubs themselves if neccessary ) idealy on FTA Tv that could sell sponsoship or arvertising a la Irn Bru with SL'"
I'm with you on this. Personally I think what rugby league needs is a fans show on TV in the image of soccer am. Without punters, you've got problems. take all the great conversations that fans are having in bars and car parks all over the land and put that into the public eye at a reasonable hour and let the game sell itself
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| I would love to see a footy show sort of show where you can see players personalities come through and see what they are really like in person instead of the boring post match interviews where they are basically told what to say.
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| But is this SL players? , or Championship players?
Because if its an ALL RL show, it'll be just SL only
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| would love it to be players from the championships and SL. It isn't going to happen but I think a show like that could only do good for the game IMO.
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| Quote ="Dutchy the fax fan"would love it to be payers from the championships and SL. It isn't going to happen but I think a show like that could only do good for the game IMO.'"
Yes it would, but from the Championship clubs point of view its time to be selfish, IMO they ( RFL ) arent looking out for us , time to look out for ourselves ( collectively the non SL clubs )
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| Quote ="Starbug"Yes it would, but from the Championship clubs point of view its time to be selfish, IMO they ( RFL ) arent looking out for us , time to look out for ourselves ( collectively the non SL clubs )'"
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| Quote ="Dutchy the fax fan"I would love to see a footy show sort of show where you can see players personalities come through and see what they are really like in person instead of the boring post match interviews where they are basically told what to say.'" ,
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| Quote ="MalcolmAgar'sBoot",
Totally agree.'"
Welcome aboard, apart from totally agreeing what else would you like to see?
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