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| He signed for Leigh for 2 years from next season. Fev can't get us into a bidding war I'm afraid RFF as Sam signed a 2 year deal last Sept!! He still has 12 months of that to go!! I'm not in receipt of all the facts but as far as I am aware it's the fact the club got a sniff of his negotiations with Leigh, could have gone to the RFL for an illegal approach but have allegedly used this as a tool to negotiate something else....??!! Fev merely have a player till the end of season as we were going to make him rot in the reserves but felt it better to get the bad egg out along with his agent........ allegedly!!
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| I've heard that his agent is a real bellend. Rumours about Barlow's move to several SL clubs came out just after he signed for Fax!! He'll ruin Sam.
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| Has Barlow got the same agent as Tony Clubb?
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| Quote ="chris_smith"He signed for Leigh for 2 years from next season. Fev can't get us into a bidding war I'm afraid RFF as Sam signed a 2 year deal last Sept!! He still has 12 months of that to go!! I'm not in receipt of all the facts but as far as I am aware it's the fact the club got a sniff of his negotiations with Leigh, could have gone to the RFL for an illegal approach but have allegedly used this as a tool to negotiate something else....??!! Fev merely have a player till the end of season as we were going to make him rot in the reserves but felt it better to get the bad egg out along with his agent........ allegedly!!'"
Exactly chris,
Sam is going to Leigh next season, Fax thought it better for the club, the team and the player to let him go.
I believe.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"As long as the something different is giving penalties away or stupid offloads or half hearted drives.
The question is if Sam didnt want to go then why every other week for like the past year has he been telling people X team has come in for him offering him x amount? The club called his bluff and now its funny he is telling people he didnt want to leave. It seems the club got a bit sick of this coupled with his half assed performances and the fact that he was probably on twice the amount of money of some players that are twice as good as him and it became a no brainer. So what if he has gone to Fev, its not like he is good enough to get in their team and they will suss that pretty soon.'"
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| Quote ="ron ryan's jockstrap"You talk some drivel.'"
Which bit?
I cant even remember his last good game for us although I think it might have been about a year ago. Heart bleeds that he is now telling people he didnt want to leave but its a great bit of business by Fax.
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| Quote ="chris_smith"He signed for Leigh for 2 years from next season. Fev can't get us into a bidding war I'm afraid RFF as Sam signed a 2 year deal last Sept!! !'"
you misunderstand me chris.
Our BoD in a deliberate effort kept upping the offer to Sam last year meaning that he'd either become a rover then (Oct last yr) OR Fax would have to pay top dollar for his services. As it traspired Fax offered him big money and secured his signature. I will leave it to you to judge whether he's been value for money. ,
This "he didn't want to leave " business I'm sceptical of given the texts he's been sending not that that matters a jot like!
He comes to Fev.... he either plays well for us and gets in the team or he doesn't and in a few weeks he'll go back to being the panto villain again!! Rumours are he's Leigh bound next yr and that contract is already signed.
Personally I'm not as over enthused about Sam's arrival as I have been about other re-signs/signings this last few weeks. I think we have enough without his presence! I will yeild to the expertise and savvy of our BoD on this one and just accept they know more than me on this!!
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| Quote ="Rotherham Fev Fan"you misunderstand me chris.
Our BoD in a deliberate effort kept upping the offer to Sam last year meaning that he'd either become a rover then (Oct last yr) OR Fax would have to pay top dollar for his services. As it traspired Fax offered him big money and secured his signature. I will leave it to you to judge whether he's been value for money. ,
This "he didn't want to leave " business I'm sceptical of given the texts he's been sending not that that matters a jot like!
He comes to Fev.... he either plays well for us and gets in the team or he doesn't and in a few weeks he'll go back to being the panto villain again!! Rumours are he's Leigh bound next yr and that contract is already signed.
Personally I'm not as over enthused about Sam's arrival as I have been about other re-signs/signings this last few weeks. I think we have enough without his presence! I will yeild to the expertise and savvy of our BoD on this one and just accept they know more than me on this!!'"
Ahhhh, but was it actually SAM sending the texts ? ( private joke before anyone starts getting wishy washy about it all )
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| Aye RFF slightly!! However I also know that Sams contract was for considerably less than Fev were branding about when trying to persuade him to sign although it was his agent and your chairman handling the bidding. Where Sam has come undone is agreeing a 2 year deal with Leigh several weeks ago whilst still only 1 yr into a 2 yr deal with Fax. Leigh could have been in trouble but I believe something had been agreed to benefit us.....!!
Sam as much as he has talent needs to take a long hard look at his ethic in training etc and his attitude as he is already 2 thirds of the way up the "if only you'd tried harder" pile. On his day a devastating forward but if he doesn't apply himself properly is a penalty machine who can hide in games as he isn't fit.
Hopefully will prove a decent bit of business but we will miss his aggression, go forward and off load of the Sam we'd like to see each week. We won't miss the other Sam too much.....
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| Sam is a gamebreaker. The trouble is you dont know whether he will win the game or lose it with a play! A shame because he has all the attributes apart from an apparent lack of concentration and application.
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| So we've signed Ridyard then yeah?!
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| Quote ="SIMMSFAXTEDDY"So we've signed Ridyard then yeah?!'"
In a word! No!
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| Just wanted to say good luck to Sam with his future. Sam is a truly smashing lad and with the right application and guidance could still make it to the top in my view. Disappointed that he is leaving but we all have to make decisions in life that may or may not work out. Time will tell. Good luck Sam at Fev and with your future career and life choices!
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| Quote ="chris_smith"He signed for Leigh for 2 years from next season. Fev can't get us into a bidding war I'm afraid RFF as Sam signed a 2 year deal last Sept!! He still has 12 months of that to go!! I'm not in receipt of all the facts but as far as I am aware it's the fact the club got a sniff of his negotiations with Leigh, could have gone to the RFL for an illegal approach but have allegedly used this as a tool to negotiate something else....??!! Fev merely have a player till the end of season as we were going to make him rot in the reserves but felt it better to get the bad egg out along with his agent........ allegedly!!'"
Is this 100% fact that he has signed a 2 year contract with Leigh and how much of your post is 100% factual
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| As a forum poster I can't say that my post is 100% factually correct as like most people I rely on a bit of good old gossip!! However my source is usually pretty good and closd to the mark, but an element of Chinese whispers can sometimes add a little. However the fact the local rag a few days ago reported he was expected to join Leigh after his loan at Fev gave me confidence my source isn't a million miles away. James (the reporter in our paper) is quite close to the club and very respected and trusted by them so hence I believe the deal with Leigh to be true. What Fax have received in return is the murky bit as that's between all concerned. Again my source is usually pretty good and tends to dangle a carrot rather than confirm or deny if they can get away with that!!! The fact that Barlow is only 1 year into a 2 year deal is FACT too. Also the only way Barlow could leave whilst still under contract is on loan, we receive a transfer fee, released by mutual consent or something else is agreed between relevant parties. Read into that what you will but if Fax were going to just release him they would have done that with immediate effect and not put him out on loan. This leaves me to trust that Leigh have agreed to do something that we wanted too....??
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| What I struggle to get my head round in all of this Sam and Leigh link is the fact that he was on a 2 year contract that still had a year to run.
Everyone would have known that so why would Leigh make an approach knowing the possible repercusions.
Why and how could Sam sign anything with them when he, his agent and Leigh knew he was tied to Fax thus making any signature worthless, unless Fax were compliant in what was going on.
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| Faxcar that mate I don't know but 100% agree and asked the very same question. The reply to me was.... "Fax did ok trust me". Sam is not vindictive and I'm not sure he always gets the best advice from his advisors/agent but something has happened and as the you'd ol Yorkshire saying goes... It'll all come out in t'wash!!
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| What I don't understand is why we would take him on until the end of the season get him fit then let him go to Leigh Our forwards are playing very well at the moment we have just loaned green from HKR so if Barlow is a bad as people are making out on his fitness he won't get in our team. I thought he would of been England's replacement for next season
More info will come out I suppose when Fev officially announce it
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| Quote ="jtfev"What I don't understand is why we would take him on until the end of the season get him fit then let him go to Leigh Our forwards are playing very well at the moment we have just loaned green from HKR so if Barlow is a bad as people are making out on his fitness he won't get in our team. I thought he would of been England's replacement for next season
More info will come out I suppose when Fev officially announce it'"
Cricky, how hard is it to explain.
SAM IS GOING TO LEIGH NEXT SEASON
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| Quote ="faxcar"What I struggle to get my head round in all of this Sam and Leigh link is the fact that he was on a 2 year contract that still had a year to run.
Everyone would have known that so why would Leigh make an approach knowing the possible repercusions.
Why and how could Sam sign anything with them when he, his agent and Leigh knew he was tied to Fax thus making any signature worthless, unless Fax were compliant in what was going on.'"
Nothing to do with Wigan being their senior partner nowadays ?
Maybe, I say maybe...... Leigh sell their club to players and their agents with the Wigan link as part of their sales pitch.
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| Quote ="jtfev"What I don't understand is why we would take him on until the end of the season get him fit then let him go to Leigh Our forwards are playing very well at the moment we have just loaned green from HKR so if Barlow is a bad as people are making out on his fitness he won't get in our team. I thought he would of been England's replacement for next season
More info will come out I suppose when Fev officially announce it'"
Where is England going next year?
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| Quote ="Nat (Rugby_Aholic)"Where is England going next year?'"
Wire & Bradford have both had a sniff at him recently, Powell at Cas would obviously be interested I reckon.
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| Quote ="marillion man"Nothing to do with Wigan being their senior partner nowadays ?
Maybe, I say maybe...... Leigh sell their club to players and their agents with the Wigan link as part of their sales pitch.'"
Still don't get it so help me out here.
How would that explain the legalities of it all and make the signature worth the paper it was written.
Sign here Sam and it will be okay because Wigan are our senior partners so Fax and the RFL won't mind.
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