Don't forget to add - stinging criticism of your efforts by people who know better but don't have a brass farthing to put in.

On the plus side they get fanboy recognition from people who either, accept mediocrity, or have no idea how to run a business.

Yes your right. Q6 Would my efforts be apreciated?

If what you describe is putting a trophy in the cabinet then give me mediocrity and poor business sense everyday. I feel sorry for you if you think the last three years have been mediocre. I suggest you follow another club, or another sport? Man Utd perhaps?

What the hell is a "pre-madonna"? I presume you mean a "prima donna"?

OK, fair enough, I have made a spelling mistake. I apologise.

But seen as you knew exactly what I meant, what is the point in mentioning it?

I wasn't there this afternoon but have been for the rest of the season, we've been to the final of one comp and barring a reffing decision or two could have won.
I agree there have beentimes, and probably too many, when we have all angered by what appears to be total lethargy but we've beaten all but Batley this season and we should have had them a few weeks ago.
We need to support the team while we can, they've been through it as well, coaching issues etc. so a final push could give us something to smile about.
Also, the grass is not always greener, at the end of last season we all could n't wait for a year as champions and, as you say, you now want to see the end of it.

Great thread , enjoying reading it

That's correct , and as rich as he is , premier footy clubs were out of his league

So Widnes ( his home town ) is where he has put his money , and well done to him for that

But let me ask a question

Would he have taken on the the Vikings if they had only had a couple of thousand fans , the same basically as another 3/4 clubs in NL1 / The Championship ?

Or was it because they had the ' extra ' that essentially made Widnes Vikings a sustainable proposition ?

That's the challenge , to make ourselves attractive enough to bring in ' investement ' that will enable the ' investor ' to achieve more than just treading water or fighting a fire , with both hands tied behind their back

Sadly SL have made it necessary to have a money man involved with a club when common sense tells you that a club should be self sufficient, and unreliant on the outside income of an individual. Fax have done fantastic without the excessive financial input from businessmen yet have been punished for it. The problem isnt with Fax, it is with the oafs at the RFL.

Yes Fax have done well to achieve self sufficiency , however the step up from where they currently are finances wise , to SL self sufficiency is massive , it is probably that gap that the RFL see as a problem

looking at the "support" that GFB shows fax, I suspect he may be a bulls fan on the wind up! As you say, a trophy and finals, mediocre, achieved on a shoestring budget, badly run club, pah!

I recommend a bulls or giants ticket on the cheap next year, see how many finals you see then GFB!

Obviously i was talking about off field rather than on it but nice spin.

Freddie as for me showing my `support` for the last 25 or so years, lets just say if the club had kept a few more of us happy they may just have a bit more money to spend than they have now.

What?

So, off the field the people running our club are crap and what happens on the pitch has nothing to do with them? And as for the club making you happy? You're a doom merchant. The most miserable fan i've ever come across and as far as i can tell, is only happy when sticking the knife in. You're pathetic.

Well they certainly didn't cover themselves in glory or dignity over the SL annoucement. It would appear the chairmen wasnt aware of the cretirion clubs were measured by. He was quick to blame a team for breaking the rules and we haven't heard anything from
it since.

They're not perfect. They make mistakes. They lack resources but what they do or do not do is NOT through lack of effort. They don't deserve the constant crap that GFB dishes out - almost on a daily basis.

I think Michael was gobsmacked that Wakey were given a license after what they'd done and all the things they hadn't done and reacted instantly in front of the cameras. Their bid - at that time on Monday and Tuesday was better than ours because they now had a welthy backer. Michael's reactions - rather naively - was to question how a club that had gone into administration and had defaulted on it's ground promises could still be awarded a license. Now, in the cold light of day, would there be any purpose in releasing a document which basically says "actually, Halifax you're weak because you've no money"? We all know that.

Aww you have hurt my feelings, im probably not going to get much sleep tonight.



Some aspects off the field are good and some are bad. I think you need to take the blinkers off. There is masses of room left for improvement but while everyone just swans along because nobody dare say anything then those improvements never happen. I will tell you one thing, although people who worked for the club didnt like Stephen Pearsons attitude, he got things done and i would guarentee that the club would be run a damn site better than it is today if he were still alive. Unfortunatley as we know life dosnt run that straight forward but imo if the club could bring the same type of driven person in then they could make a lot of progress, not sure a lot of the staff would be happy though.

So let's find some volunteers who are willing to give up their time and money - people who are better than this current mob. I'd suggest you lead the way.

Id like to see you back that up. Ive just had a scan at a few of my recent posts and I see a few things i mentioned about mistakes that were either made or things that could be improved but im struggling to see the constant crap that i dish out on a daily basis.

Maybe you could do one of your things where you stalk my profile and see what dirt you can dig, i mean it dosnt look like you have much else to do.

Greg Florimos Jock Strap IS a closet Bulls fan who's on the troll, it was proven a long long time ago! Don't let him wind you up, littledik!

Welcome back TF2.

I have to admit it you got me sussed Tony, setting up this ruse has been a massive task. The lengths i have gone to for it to happen has been far and above, i mean putting myself through watching Fax all these years just to wind some fanboys up, thats dedication.

littlerich is away at this time profile stalking me so he can dish the dirt. Im so excited.

Glad you've come clean, Bootboy. Never quite reached the heights of "a witty troll"! You tried. Oh yes, you tried. But I'm afraid what let you down ... and let you down quite badly ... was that you was just too full of crap!

I went to bed instead



OK - I exaggerated your "daily attacks" but I have had a look at a lot of your recent posts and to be quite honest - I feel sorry for you. You seem dreadfully unhappy to be a Fax fan. I may be a "fanboy" as you put it but I'm glad I don't have your mentality towards Halifax RLFC. It seems a miserable place to be.

There is no doubt that the board and staff aren't as professional as you'd like GFB but the point I'm trying to make is that "the club" lack resources to enable it to meet your expectations. You need to manage your expectations.

I dont believe they do, i think they just need to be a bit smarter on some occasions. I believe they can achieve high expectations, its not like the things ive talked about are expecting the moon on a stick now is it. A recent blog metioned about been more proffesional and i really hope they can be.

Ps. Im very happy to be a Fax fan and wouldnt change it for the world.

Fair enough squire.