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| Quote ="marillion man"But, following on from that set back Chris, our kids were then made "free agents" rich for picking by those clubs with existing scholarships, my own lad being one of them. Most of the lads have moved onto other clubs, all of which just happen to be SL clubs, some in our district, some in Lancashire. Some of the lads weren't picked up & continued to play with their junior/amateur clubs.
Calderdale is very, very rich pickings for junior talent with the number of local clubs. This isn't a criticism here, but by comparison Featherstone for example, other than Lions, which other junior clubs are within the town's boundaries ?
Our neighbourly SL clubs identified Calderdale/Halifax as being such a rich vein a few years ago and in the period prior to Halifax RLFC resurecting their scholarship programme, some of our local lads were being courted by neighbouring clubs and were being told that Halifax had nothing to offer them development wise. All of this type of behaviour has always gone on & I suppose always will do, but that doesn't make it right or correct.'"
All true, but I would argue that Featherstone is even more a competitive area. Cas, Wakey and Leeds run some of the best scholarships in the business. So how can we compete for young players. Answer, we have invested in a player pathway. And yes we campaign like hell about the cost of doing so and the wrongs. I personally think that know we have invested in youth and competed well that are argument with the RFL is a stronger one.
Halifax could have done the same. Widnes and Sheffield did. Just depends what your strategic objectives are and where your priorities lie.
The point to note here is that all Championship clubs should be working together to write these wrongs, but they don't do they. Just another example of poor governance of clubs and poor organisation and a mindset that lives for today.
As for your U23s doing better than ours. Congrats, good effort in first season. However, our U23s is now used a player pathway team. Last season when we did not have U18s we got to the Grand Final (lost to Whitehaven). So most in that team are underage and it is a stepping stone from 18s to first team.
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| Actually I apologise for one thing I said about Fax. Complete rebuilding job is way over the top. Actually you have a lot to build-on and started taking good steps after last season by cutting playing budget and entering an U23's. Good core fan base and great history.
What I meant was, rebuilding an coaching team and continuing to refresh squad, as well as building a youth structure.
As my mate said to me at the NRC final, I sound like a closet Fax fan.
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| Its a sad fact that people like to see the demise of their rivals so in a way no surprise other Championship clubs fans are not showing us much sympathy, it means that we are not doing better than them so they like it as they might actually beat us and push us down the league is what they will believe.
But they are being very short sighted as what does this mean for our leagyue in the LONG TERM?
This is not just about halifax RLFc and Wakefield for that matter its the whole game below SL level.
And I am worried it looks bleak.
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| Quote ="Fax4Life"Its a sad fact that people like to see the demise of their rivals so in a way no surprise other Championship clubs fans are not showing us much sympathy, it means that we are not doing better than them so they like it as they might actually beat us and push us down the league is what they will believe.
But they are being very short sighted as what does this mean for our leagyue in the LONG TERM?
This is not just about halifax RLFc and Wakefield for that matter its the whole game below SL level.
And I am worried it looks bleak.'"
Correct , being a big fish in a tiny pond is no preparation for the sharks of SL , being strong in among other similar clubs is what is needed , that also has the added attraction to the RFL of not damaging whichever unfortunate club they pick on too much as well
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| Quote ="Starbug"Correct , being a big fish in a tiny pond is no preparation for the sharks of SL , being strong in among other similar clubs is what is needed , that also has the added attraction to the RFL of not damaging whichever unfortunate club they pick on too much as well'"
It was you guys before us and they are like a bunch of bullies, somehow Wakey managed to get the bully off their back, who next?
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| Ovo, your post does an injustice to the underlying strength of each of the clubs you mentioned. You have been around the game for a while I assume and know how clubs run by your involvement at Fev. As such you will know falling attendances, financial issues, etc are part of day to day life at this level. However, you seem to overlook the fact that there are very strong foundations at clubs like Barrow, Leigh and Fax and even when times appear to get tough few press the panic button.
Loss of coaches and current financial challenges will not undermine any of these clubs. Sure Barrow might not be able to afford another Jamie Rooney or Ned Catic, but they too have very good young players and a hardcore of fans that will follow them come hell or high water. Leigh's current financial issue is merely a blip and they will be as strong as ever next year. In our own case we are a very well run club, with a strong fan base (which has seen worse times than this and still retained 1700 or so core fans), a strong player roster and clear direction.
I'd read your post again and consider the above. Its great to be an optomist, but to consider even for a moment that the apocolypse has arrived to all outside the borough boundaries for Featherstone is just niave.
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| Quote ="Fax Missionary"Ovo, your post does an injustice to the underlying strength of each of the clubs you mentioned. You have been around the game for a while I assume and know how clubs run by your involvement at Fev. As such you will know falling attendances, financial issues, etc are part of day to day life at this level. However, you seem to overlook the fact that there are very strong foundations at clubs like Barrow, Leigh and Fax and even when times appear to get tough few press the panic button.
Loss of coaches and current financial challenges will not undermine any of these clubs. Sure Barrow might not be able to afford another Jamie Rooney or Ned Catic, but they too have very good young players and a hardcore of fans that will follow them come hell or high water. Leigh's current financial issue is merely a blip and they will be as strong as ever next year. In our own case we are a very well run club, with a strong fan base (which has seen worse times than this and still retained 1700 or so core fans), a strong player roster and clear direction.
I'd read your post again and consider the above. Its great to be an optomist, but to consider even for a moment that the apocolypse has arrived to all outside the borough boundaries for Featherstone is just niave.'"
I agree with you.... I want all clubs to be strong especially traditional ones. I will say it again my post was in the context of appealing to Fev fans, to try and stop them jumping on the band wagon of saying 'I am done with the game, we will never get in SL'
Many Fev fans have a mentality of "if it ain't Fev I aint interested'. Not me BTW..... but that is why understanding the context is important. We cannot afford the loss of any fan, so I am trying to show them some positives from a Fev perspective and keep them.
Look it does not matter how much people or situations hurts some clubs, the great supporters that underpin Fax, Leigh, Barrow, etc will ensure that the club continues and comes back stronger. However, there is no doubting that for the next 3 year cycle, Fev begin in a relatively strong position because of the groundwork that has been laid.
I still would not consider myself naive though
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| Quote ="Fax4Life"It was you guys before us and they are like a bunch of bullies, somehow Wakey managed to get the bully off their back, who next?'"
The RFL realised there was a little Welsh ginger kid sat in the corner who was new to the school and was already borrowing money off everyone, so they turned their attention to an easy fight rather than try to scrap with the medium sized ugly bugger.
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"The RFL realised there was a =#FF0000little Welsh ginger kid sat in the corner who was new to the school and was already borrowing money off everyone, so they turned their attention to an easy fight rather than try to scrap with the medium sized ugly bugger.'"
I didn't know RFF was ' welsh '
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| Quote ="Starbug"I didn't know RFF was ' welsh '
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He wasn't referering to his hair it was just the kid himself that was Ginger.
He looked like a biscuit and they called him Dunc.
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