Could that be down to the coach then?
Making too many wrong decisions like making Penky captain (again), did he never learn last time as the guy is not a born leader he is too individual, like when we need him to make the right call he does things like running the ball instead of taking the 2 points.
Said it many times before a well coached teams know how to beat us and we cannot cope, so yes once again I do question the coach do we have a gameplan???
Come on look at the resources at clubs like Batley and Sheffield not being cocky but they are small clubs compared to us yet because they have good coaches they do well, especially against us, so do Fev under another good coach.
We have done well the last 2 years under Calland because we have had a good squad of players and some individuals players who can score from nothing, but we have less of them now and I am concerned that we have gone backwards this season and yes I did go to Toulouse and they were bad there too.

I won't be getting behind the coach because I no longer have any faith in him.

Being pedantic here as I understand your point, but I wouldn't even put Batley in the same ballpark as Sheffield in terms of resources, mate. If you told me we (Batley) had enough money to sign even ONE out of Taulapapa, Yere or their new Samoan guy who recently had NRL trials, I'd probably spend the rest of 2011 laughing in your face.

Maybe based on support mate, I can only guess Mr Aston gets some decent sponsorships being in a large city like Sheffield.
When he goes I think they will struggle he is Mr Sheffield.

I won't be getting behind the coach because I no longer have any faith in him.'"

Like i said its probably his best game he has played for us and to be honest that break was all that he did. That just speaks volumes for how poor he has been for us. His kicking game has not been good for us and i bet he will be the first to admit that. Hopefully he can go from strength to strength after today but for me Holly and Black have to start and we cant afford the luxury of having a half back on the bench. On the note about passing, how bad is our passing? How many times do our props have to check or reach behind to catch a ball? Our distribution has got to be much crisper especially without a big pack. We cant afford small guys to be stopping running to catch a ball, they need all the momentum they can get.

Maybe he had no option but to take a pay cut as no-one else would have given him a job.

I notice how people are getting on Jones' back but I don't see anyone having a go at Black who has been totally anonymous so far this season.

Could it be that we reached two Grand Finals (and won one) DESPITE the coach rather than because of him?

It could be argued that, with the players that were available to the coach over the last two seasons, any other coach would have achieved just as much and, if they had sorted out the defence which our incumbant coach seems unable to do, might even have finished at the head of the league table in those two seasons and added a second Grand Final crown.

Who knows? But what is crystal clear is that things are not right with the team / coaching. Something needs to be done, though there are potential pitfalls in whatever transpires.

I was there today. Your pack was dire. I know how you feel I have been following my team through thick and thin for a lot of years.

You fans turned up in numbers but sorry but your squad looks thin too me. We will see but this isn't the Fax I have seen play certainly since 2004 when you put 50 on us.

Be a long season but sorry to say you were well beaten and played poorly.

Not a wind up it is just what I saw today.

Pretty much my thoughts exactly.

I cant believe none of you get it. This is just a ploy to get us in super league !!

Widnes got in by having and average team who couldnt beat an egg, so we have until July to go one better.....bottom of the table !

Getting good at this consipracy theory stuff me........or is it just the booze

Thanks. its good to hear what other clubs fans think.
You are bang on by the way. Looks like an easy win for you lads a week on Sunday, even worse what will Bradford do to us and on TV???

Next 2 league games are Leigh at home and widnes away. We're gonna be at the bottom of the league after 5 games with only 1 bonus point to our name.
I've said it all along (not on here though) that we've had the sucres of the last 2 seasons despite of Calland, he's taken us as far as he can and his time is up for me, but who we gonna replace him with?? because personally I don't think Ball or Gonzales are up to the job either, Martin Hall back as first team coach maybe???

I think the reason Martin Hall went to the less hands on role he took originally was due to his business commitments, and time he spends abroad. If the club were to replace Calland, it needs to be someone completely new, not rehashing the current set up

I had a go at him in one of my previous posts. Always better to be honest i feel. Like i said this was jones best game for us and all he did was that break, i could have pointed out how poor his last option on their line was late in the game but i chose not to. Black was anonymous for most of the game apart from his break up the middle where he picked up the injury that saw him leave the field. I doubt Jones would have got on otherwise. I do feel for them though, no half backs of any quality can play well behind such a dominated pack.

THE WAY THAT I SEE IT....WE HAVE MAJOR PROBLEMS AT THE MINUTE WITH BOTH ATTACK AND DEFENCE. THE DISPLAY AT SHEFFIELD WAS THE WORST I HAVE SEEN IN ALONG TIME.

WE ARE DEFINATLY RUNNING LOW ON CONFIDENCE, AND THIS NEEDS TO CHANGE QUICKLY!

MC's JOB IS TO COACH AND MOTIVATE...I SUGGEST HE STARTS DOING IT NOW.

3 GAMES IN AND 3 DEFEATS IS TERRIBLE.

WE HAVE LEIGH NEXT, TO BEAT THEM WE HAVE TO PLAY WITH THE SAME INTENSITY AND CONTROL AS WE DID AGAINST FEV IN THE 1ST HALF...IF WE DONT WE WILL GET BRUSHED ASIDE.

IF WE CAN BEAT LEIGH IT WILL BOOST CONFIDENCE AND GIVE US THE CHANCE OF GOING ON A WINNING STREAK.

HOWEVER IF WE DONT WIN, I CAN SEE US LOOSING THE NEXT 3 GAMES AFTER THAT.

COME ON FAX SORT IT OUT!

WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS! PLAY LIKE THEM!

If a player needs motivating to play for Halifax he shouldn't be playing for Halifax at all!!!

THIS IS TRUE...

BUT BY THE PERFORMANCE AT BRAMALL LANE YESTERDAY....I WOULD SAY ONLY PENKY, JONES AND CHANDLER 'WANTED IT'

THIS HAS TO CHANGE...AND QUICKLY

You took the words out of my mouth, I could not agree more.

I very rarely post on this board, but I did yesterday because I was and still am incensed by yet another awful performance from a team that does not look like they are being coached.

rlw, we are all entitled to our opinions and I respect yours, even though I don't agree with them. I'm not interested in personally arguing with anybody here, I just wanted to express my views for a change. Please don't tell me whom I should have faith in and who deserves my backing - those things are up to me and I am happy to agree to differ.

I think we all deserve a lot more from a club that we continue to follow through thick and thin. That's it from me on the subject, thanks for listening.

Never sing when you're winning then?

I'm proud to keep the faith in our coach, the team and the club. Despite very limited resources they've all performed miracles in the last few years, and they've done it with pride, loyalty and obvious ambition AND they made us Grand Final Champions!

You carry on following silently and we'll carry on singing our hearts out to help lead the lads to victory again.

It has nothing to do with the coach in terms of some of the players attitudes on Sunday. Some players weren't fit to wear the shirt and need to take a good long hard look at themselves in the mirror, they were the reason I left a Fax game early for the first time in my l;ife. I went to every single game and watched every single minute in 2003 where we lost all but one game, I don't mind losing, its when its blatantly obvious that some players can't be bothered to play that gets to me and that's what occurred on Sunday. Is that the coaches fault? Not necessarily. Yes he sets out ther game plan and tries to rally the troops but as soon as they cross the whitewash its the players responsibility and there were several who blatantly took the mickey out of our large travelling support.

Let's say Calland does go, who else is there? Look at when the poopoo hit the fan last year and many fans were calling for his head, it was backs against the wall, we all pulled together and won the league. This could be the wake up call we needed.

One things for sure it will be VERY interesting if we fail to beat Toulouse this weekend...

Its him who is ultimatly responsible for bringing in the playing personell, So in fact if he has brough in people who dont give a fig then only has himself to blame for this lack of desire.

Last year the players not only played as a team but played for each other on that pitch and it showed, Some players have things on their mind but they get paid to do a job and they are not doing it, That doesn't mean winning but the effort has to be there and so far few have showed this. In fact a word i dislike sums up our season so far. WOEFULL !!!!

Matt brought people in he thinks can do the job, its not his fault if they are playing like they dont want it, things are taken out of MC's hands when the players are on the pitch, what i dont get is when we play well everyone praises the players but when they play back its suddenly the coach's fault. i echo what others have said, last season people called for his head and then he turned it round and him and the lands worked wonders for us. have some faith in them!

I am pretty lost for words with regards to Sundays effort. We were that bad. The concern has to be why it happened. If mat has lost the respect of the players then he would need to go. I hope this isn't the case as we have seen great things from a large portion of this team so capability isn't the reason.

My biggest concern is thinking things will come right given time. It is highly possible that we will go into round six of the league program bottom of the table on one point. Regardless of our potential to improve that will put us right in The muck. If mat is to stay then things need to change very quickly. That's down to him as a coach to rally the team and as importantly, the under performing lot that refused to bend their backs on Sunday and tackle, to look in The mirror and be ashamed of what they did!