drove past yesterday and looking ok from what saw.

more yorkshire clubs then lancs clubs, it makes sense i understand i would be anoyed by not getting a licence in my opinion halifax should still get a linence, get rid of wakefield and another team

If Fax or any other team were to be in Super League then their crowds would be higher,more home support and a lot more away support from the bigger following from SL clubs.

Were's the logic in comparing the crowd levels from a current SL team to a Championship side.

Bigger crowds generates more money, more money from SL, more sponsership etc, so were's the logic in comparing the finances from a curent SL club to a championship club.

Sorry mate but there isn't any.

I would love for a few of these SL muppets to know what its like to be cast adrift in the Championship.
I just cannot wait now to hear the next installment of the spineless charlatans at Red Hall. July cannot come soon enough for me.

I didn't mean that , I meant is it right that because a club is unhappy , and voices its unhappiness at a decision that is held against them as you suggest

How childish would that be , surely an organisation like the RFL should be able to rise above that ? , you are suggesting they aren't

You will also say that a club should rise above public criticism , well you are right , except if that club has spent tens of 1,000's of pounds and the jobs of its workers put in jeapody and the emotions of its lifelong customers are treated with distain , it is possibly a bit understandable

Wouldn't you say ?

Or in your opinion are the RFL beyond criticism ? maybe they could get Mr Gadaffi as the next CEO , he'll be out of a job shortly

You go on like Halifax have been hard done by, where you are now is your own clubs fault for spending money you didnt have back in the early 2000s, therefor being relegated the year later due to the awful team that followed the mass clearout of star players such as Dunemann and Mckenna and Clinch. The last licence period in 2008 you were no where near ready for SL, this year you probably are but Widnes are in a clearly better position. Listen yeah i know its a kick in the balls not being given the decision but don't go on like you being in the lower league's is no fault of your own because its !

By that logic we should have been promoted after winning the league last year. However we are still in the Championship and therefore have been hard done by.

Do you get dizzy sat up there from your lofty perch?

And so should Barrow have been? And if your going to be pedantic then Fetherstone should have been promoted under the original winner finishes top system, they too have been hard done by too then have they.

Rules change all the time in sport and just because they don't benefit your club you moan and groan about it, i doubt if it were you promoted thursday there would be one single person on here disagreeing with the RFL's decision.

Explain. I do have a CAD drawing buisness in the Wakefield area & times are a bit bleak.

What a cock, Obviously no one would be arguing the decision. Salford is a hole so dont pretend all high and mighty, you were down here a few years ago and might yet be depending on your stadium built.

Why are you on here exactly and to argue what ?. Shouldn't you just toddle off now.

Whenever the issue of licenses have been brought up, Cas, Wakefield, Salford et all have rolled out a CAD drawing of their "new stadium". Reckon we'll see a couple more released to the press in the next few weeks....

Quote ="shelfsox"Whenever the issue of licenses have been brought up, Cas, Wakefield, Salford et all have rolled out a CAD drawing of their "new stadium". Reckon we'll see a couple more released to the press in the next few weeks....'" Seen as the steelwork is going up at the Salford site I think they've done at bit more than "roll out". www.salfordstadium.com/webcam.htm plus the detailed applcation for the Cas ground is recommended for approval by the council next Thurday.

Quote ="shelfsox"Whenever the issue of licenses have been brought up, Cas, Wakefield, Salford et all have rolled out a CAD drawing of their "new stadium". Reckon we'll see a couple more released to the press in the next few weeks....'" Seen as the steelwork is going up at the Salford site I think they've done at bit more than "roll out". www.salfordstadium.com/webcam.htm plus the detailed applcation for the Cas ground is recommended for approval by the council next Thurday.

If your trying to say that steelwork going up is a completed structure you are definitely talking to the wrong people here! We definitely won't buy that.

Quote ="BigNige"Seen as the steelwork is going up at the Salford site I think they've done at bit more than "roll out". www.salfordstadium.com/webcam.htm plus the detailed applcation for the Cas ground is recommended for approval by the council next Thurday.'" Are you saying that approval is guaranteed? or could there be objections and it be refered to the relevent government department as happened with Wakefield

Quote ="BigNige"Seen as the steelwork is going up at the Salford site I think they've done at bit more than "roll out". www.salfordstadium.com/webcam.htm plus the detailed applcation for the Cas ground is recommended for approval by the council next Thurday.'" Are you saying that approval is guaranteed? or could there be objections and it be refered to the relevent government department as happened with Wakefield

Lets say that they are progressing as were yourselves, it just took a bit of time.

Quote ="BigNige"Seen as the steelwork is going up at the Salford site I think they've done at bit more than "roll out". www.salfordstadium.com/webcam.htm plus the detailed applcation for the Cas ground is recommended for approval by the council next Thurday.'" Too late the bids went in yesterday and unfortunatly approval isn't granted yet, You do not meet the criterea as you do not and will not have the stadium by 2012, There is nothing to argue about its cold hard FACT !!. Cas and Wakey come on down !!!! the stadium aint right !!!

Quote ="BigNige"Seen as the steelwork is going up at the Salford site I think they've done at bit more than "roll out". www.salfordstadium.com/webcam.htm plus the detailed applcation for the Cas ground is recommended for approval by the council next Thurday.'" Too late the bids went in yesterday and unfortunatly approval isn't granted yet, You do not meet the criterea as you do not and will not have the stadium by 2012, There is nothing to argue about its cold hard FACT !!. Cas and Wakey come on down !!!! the stadium aint right !!!

The planning dept have recommended approval to the council planning committee.

Difference is between your stand and our stadium is that our stadium has the funding yours didn't.

It's past 12 now. Cut it out.

Have to agree. The club has already stated that we would not be in by 2013 & that we will be playing at the "Probiz" next season.

And Halifax is Sydney right?

im on here to defend my team who some on here seem to think are in a worse position than fax.

Rubbish mate, hard done by i don't think so dozens of Fax fans have sent well done and all the best messages to Widnes.

Secondly if Halifax are being hard done by then the game is being hard done by.

This isolating of one club is another by product of self preservation that supporters are now adopting as a result of the RFL's current managment.

It should not be us or them it should us and you, if we are divided then sooner or later the inevitable cycle of the changes in each clubs fortunes will catch up with everybody. Us today you sometime in the future.

I completely agree but I would be sorry to see Wakefield come down over the likes of Celtic & Quins, they have as much history as we do. Equally I would be upset if Halifax were the ones to replace them.

I'm as annoyed by the RFL as anyone but I am not convinced that going up to SL this season is really the right thing for us. The start of the season shows this, I want to go to SL and be a contender & at the minute, we are not one. Credit to all the back room staff & players, I hope they can keep the faith & keep striving for us to be the best.

The revolutionary in me says, we mere supporters should not take the RFL's guff anymore & raise up as one but I know that is not likely. Lets leave our bitterness now & get behind the lads so they can show the RFL once again that WE ARE CHAMPIONS.

Still waiting for Anyone to show me any area that Halifax are better than Harlequins RL...seriously...any area...........come on, how about fans? Oh, hang on, ....which club has the lowest crowd average in the history of SL?