J20 we are big time charlies and Allen,Pickers,Coyle,Thacks and I,Anson e.Simms cross standard and play academy now.

Give over mate. Poor today, expected to walk it Betts said as much how players had a lax attitude but where hurting after loss. One bad game doesn't make these lads pants whatsoever!

Mate we have been too arrogant and need to look in the mirror.Hecky and Varks best props and Pickers is a big fat lump.Grady should be a starting player and Thacks dummys too much in my opinion.Gore or Gilmore scrumhalf over Coyle.

Didnt mean to be offensive mate, but i think the vikings need a bit of humility.

You had my every sympathy three years ago and you have a great set up over there but, lets be honest, celebration parties, a blaze attitude to the league and all this talk about yourselves is doing you no favours.

Remember how licensing was the nemesis of clubs like ours? How attitudes change when you get a sniff!!!

And attacking fax fans on these forums cos they say fax have been the most consistent club in the championship since licencing began is just plain wrong - theyve been in all the grand finals since!!!

We all know what will happen at the end of the month, just pack in rubbing it in.

Dont forget about us plebs and how increasingly difficult licencing has made things for your fellow championship clubs. Would be great if SOC came out and told us all that is wrong with licencing after you get your place - faisal has already started!

Peace

Well done vikings

freddies wig...

The initial bit is exactly what I am getting at... What 'celebration party'??? Their was huge demand to be at the stadium on the franchise announcement day, a poor run club would of let everyone turn up then turned a few hundred away as couldn't fit them in! Widnes have answered this problem by making it all ticket so people know if they can get in or not and for ticket cost added hat drink and breakfast roll.

Are Halifax not doing anything at the Shay? Any time Widnes mention SL people jump on our backs but were not saying anything you wouldn't in our situation! I.e. Great, well rounded bit that we are confident in? Problem.

FWIW I don't think we have been overly blaze about on the field... 2 cup finals, never missed the playoff's hardly shocking! Could say yourselves have been in other areas etc.

As for 'Faisal' you can talk about him all you want... He's not your chairman! Just a sponsor as he is to others and only been in RL for 5mins so not exactly an expert. Money doesn't simply buy you influence and hardly going to overtake SKY is he?

Didn't say Fax not 'consistently the best side' but in last two years simply there were 6 pieces of silverware realistically for Champ clubs to pick up; Barrow (2) Fev (1) Halifax (1), Batley (1) & Widnes (1). Why I said not like you dominated? Which was clearly your BOD's plan?

..but it does buy you a place in SL

Only time will tell...

Not really, you find me a bookie that will give you any odds on who will go up. There aren't any, what does that tell you?

I was thinking more the June / July bids

They're arrogant!!