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| Quote ="Tony Fax"
God help us, the fans are as stupid as those running the club. On the subject of "the club" ... Ostick - immediately sack him, Calland and Hall - pending the outcome of the RL enquiry .... proved to be negligent - immediately sack them.'"
I thought according to you and several others we were in GREAT hands withthe board and you were Calland In - Surely not!!! - What makes them so incompetant now and not 2 months ago??
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| Quote ="chris_smith"I thought according to you and several others we were in GREAT hands withthe board and you were Calland In - Surely not!!! - What makes them so incompetant now and not 2 months ago??'"
It's nice to see you haven't posted a 10 thousand word essay on the subject, Smiffy. But I was having an internal sweepstake on how long it would be before an anti Fax fan, who claims to support the club, would jump on the bashing wagon ... it was a toss up between yourself, florimos knickers, and lucky black wotsit. Well done. Calland IMO is a very good coach, I will always say that, but what has happened is so stupid it beggars belief and heads HAVE TO ROLL. I'm afraid Calland, if proved "guilty", has to go.
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| Quote ="Tony Fax"It's nice to see you haven't posted a 10 thousand word essay on the subject, Smiffy. '"
Ive tried to find a way of posting lovely little pics for you TF, (something you can understand and relate to) but I just haven't been able to find anything suitable. When I have used words posting though I've tried to keep them relatively ickle - Just for you
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| Quote ="Tony Fax"Because of all the people in the world who knew he shouldn't play, he was the first one. I think that is pretty obvious. Well it is to me anyway.'"
NO player should be put in that position at this level of RL.
Fax should have known Ostick's Challenge cup status and how do you know Dr Calland didn't say "oh, be reyt anyway lad its only Swinton away"?
Sacking players for SHOCKING ADMIN is not a good signal (come and play for fax and if your not going to tell us everything we know about you we will sack you!).
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| Quote ="wereutherein1987?"NO player should be put in that position at this level of RL.
Fax should have known Ostick's Challenge cup status and how do you know Dr Calland didn't say "oh, be reyt anyway lad its only Swinton away"?
Sacking players for SHOCKING ADMIN is not a good signal (come and play for fax and if your not going to tell us everything we know about you we will sack you!).'"
So if you got a job when you KNEW you had broken the law, then it's the employer's admin's fault you got the job when they shouldn't have given it you? Give me a break. It's like blaming speed cameras for drivers speeding!
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| Quote ="Tony Fax"So if you got a job when you KNEW you had broken the law, then it's the employer's admin's fault you got the job when they shouldn't have given it you? Give me a break. It's like blaming speed cameras for drivers speeding!'"
How many times do you think Ostick actually reads the rules and regulations regarding the various cup and league competitions? Yes, he should have atleast mentioned the fact he played for Rochdale a month prior to the Swinton game but the staff at the club, that get paid to do administerial work not get smashed on a rugby field every week, should know the rules andregulations.
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| Quote ="Tony Fax"So if you got a job when you KNEW you had broken the law, then it's the employer's admin's fault you got the job when they shouldn't have given it you? Give me a break. It's like blaming speed cameras for drivers speeding!'"
Very bad analogy there mate, not one of your better posts!
He got the job cos he's a good rugby player, not becasue he 'broke the law'. WE AS AN EMPLOYER BROKE THE LAW for playing him when WE shouldn't have, OSTICK DOESN'T PICK THE TEAM. Perhaps the RFL should fine Ostick based on your analogy!
Players are paid to play and be deployed where the coach see's fit END OF!
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| Quote ="wereutherein1987?"Very bad analogy there mate, not one of your better posts!
He got the job cos he's a good rugby player, not becasue he 'broke the law'. WE AS AN EMPLOYER BROKE THE LAW for playing him when WE shouldn't have, OSTICK DOESN'T PICK THE TEAM. Perhaps the RFL should fine Ostick based on your analogy!
Players are paid to play and be deployed where the coach see's fit END OF!'"
You just aren't getting this at all, are you? None of you. Surely surely SURELY Ostick should have known that he couldn't play for more than one club in a cup comp, and the implications if he was picked. God help me, jesus, it's like having a conversation with the telly tubbies. I'm off now, have a good evening
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| Quote ="wereutherein1987?"Very bad analogy there mate, not one of your better posts!
He got the job cos he's a good rugby player, not becasue he 'broke the law'. WE AS AN EMPLOYER BROKE THE LAW for playing him when WE shouldn't have, OSTICK DOESN'T PICK THE TEAM. Perhaps the RFL should fine Ostick based on your analogy!
Players are paid to play and be deployed where the coach see's fit END OF!'"
I disagree. The supporters know that a player cant play for two or more teams in a cup competition in one season so surely the players do. The player is as guilty in this as anyone.
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| Quote ="Bubba"I disagree. The supporters know that a player cant play for two or more teams in a cup competition in one season so surely the players do. The player is as guilty in this as anyone.'"
BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF THE PLAYER WAS STILL TOLD TO PLAY, EVEN THOUGH HE COMMUNICATED THIS FACT. STILL SACK HIM?
FFS HE PLAYED FOR ROCHDALE, A CLUB 2 MINS FROM MCS HOUSE! NOT SOME OBSCURE NON LEAGUE OUTFIT!
CHRIST, NOT ONLY DOES THE PLAYER HAVE TO BUST A GUT FOR FAX BUT ALSO DO FAXs ADMIN!!!!!
If Fax's control checks consist of consulting the players in the players bar then god help us!
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| Well said Bubba. Oh and you can just see it eh? "Ostick, you're playing". "But I can't, I played for Rochdale". "Shut up, you're playing". lol.
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| Quote ="Tony Fax"Well said Bubba. Oh and you can just see it eh? "Ostick, you're playing". "But I can't, I played for Rochdale". "Shut up, you're playing". lol.'"
So you are saying our control checks should be conducted via - "are you cup tied Ostick"?
and thats it!
Ostick would have 'assumed' the club had a pulse when it comes to checking stuff aahhhh but lets just sack him anyway.
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| There are enough people behind the scenes before said player even steps onto the pitch to stop this from happening. Mr Hall is in charge of all the admin side for the players . . . . . . . . . . . Oh hang on a minute the club let him naff off to France for a month to do his house up in France,so he wasn't around. Ostick is one of a long line of idiots that have brought the club into disripute and massive shame.
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| Have any of you guys considered a carreer in politics? Infact I wouldn't be surprised if you voted for Browny, sums up the state and mentality of this once proud nation
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| Quote ="chris_smith"There are enough people behind the scenes before said player even steps onto the pitch to stop this from happening. Mr Hall is in charge of all the admin side for the players . . . . . . . . . . . Oh hang on a minute the club let him naff off to France for a month to do his house up in France,so he wasn't around. Ostick is one of a long line of idiots that have brought the club into disripute and massive shame.'"
Are you quite sure you've got the right country there ?
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| Does it really matter what country France, Spain, Iraq??? Irrespective of the country his house is situated in he was away for a month doing his house up. Not professional if you ask me.
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| EVERYONE is to blame not just the ADMIN, not just Calland & not just Ostick!!
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| Quote ="Tony Fax"Have any of you guys considered a carreer in politics? Infact I wouldn't be surprised if you voted for Browny, sums up the state and mentality of this once proud nation
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Tony Fax 2 wasn't as arrogant as this, can we have it back please?
Its "agree with me of you are a thicko mentality" I cant abide from you.
You cant handle a debate or being wrong which is insecurity flowing through, did you fail your 11+? did your daddy fox dis-own you?
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| Quote ="chris_smith"Does it really matter what country France, Spain, Iraq??? Irrespective of the country his house is situated in he was away for a month doing his house up. Not professional if you ask me.'"
A slight admin error on your part ?
And, I didn't [iask[/i
Isn't it ironic how touchy some people become over a slight error ?
Everything will come out in the wash I'm sure, today is far too early to make any decisions. I wonder who's job it is at the RFL to scrutinise the team-sheets from each game, surely this should have been discovered earlier than three hours prior to kick off if the allegations are correct. The RFL will have had the teamsheets from all the previous rounds of the cup since the refs of the games despatched them.
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| Quote ="marillion man"A slight admin error on your part ?
And, I didn't [iask[/i
Isn't it ironic how touchy some people become over a slight error ?
Everything will come out in the wash I'm sure, today is far too early to make any decisions. I wonder who's job it is at the RFL to scrutinise the team-sheets from each game, surely this should have been discovered earlier than three hours prior to kick off if the allegations are correct. The RFL will have had the teamsheets from all the previous rounds of the cup since the refs of the games despatched them.'"
I've said this on another thread but the point stands here as well.
Karl Harrison said on Radio Leeds this morning that the RFL have had team sheets for this tie for at least 3 weeks and it is someone's job to check these things. He said the game should have gone ahead and we as a club should have been dealt with afterwards.
While the whole situation is nothing short of humiliating for the sport as a whole, as MM said, "[itoday is far too early to make any decisions[/i" and I tend to agree. It [imight[/i not be the clubs fault.
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| Quote ="marillion man"A slight admin error on your part ?
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Isn't it ironic how touchy some people become over a slight error ?
Everything will come out in the wash I'm sure, today is far too early to make any decisions. I wonder who's job it is at the RFL to scrutinise the team-sheets from each game, surely this should have been discovered earlier than three hours prior to kick off if the allegations are correct. The RFL will have had the teamsheets from all the previous rounds of the cup since the refs of the games despatched them.'"
No I was simply just told it was France by someone in the club - They would never get anything wrong down at HRLFC would they??
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| Quote ="chris_smith"No I was simply just told it was France by someone in the club - They would never get anything wrong down at HRLFC would they??
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You should have asked me, I'd have told you & I'm part of Halifax RLFC.
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| Quote ="marillion man"You should have asked me, I'd have told you
& I'm part of Halifax RLFC.'"
I never asked in the first place it was told to me voluntarily in conversation - Just found it odd that he had gone away for so long mid season. Still nothing about the club can surprise me now.
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