toulouse play 2nd and us
keighley play 2nd 5th and us. in sky tv game.
so same for the other teams in terms of short turn around with not much rest.

My main concern is our inept defending and inability of the coach to lift a side versus 12 men. Also Hunslet "rested" 4 first teamers as i understand it today. Today raised big concerns for me but I will put today down to a one off. One of the worst performances I have seen in recent years.

Interestingly though after the game in the SSB a few old timers came in and quite a few were talking of rumours of unrest in the camp / dressing room??? Then I asked a "senior" player in the bar "what went on today??" and he told our group that he was a little disillushioned currently and not entirely happy. He went on to say that he thought Halifax didn't train anywhere near enough and when they did it started at 6pm and finished by 8pm and there was too much mucking around. As he was questioning certain things I asked the question "So you don't think the coach is up to it"? and instead of defending MC he preferred not to be drawn anymore. He said the squad is SL quality and expected us to be spanking sides by 50 points. It wasn't just what he said that concerned me it was his manner and expressions that spoke many words to us this afternoon. I have to admit his words concerned me a tad just as much as this afternoons performance.

I'll hold judgement until next weekend.

blessing in disguise is what am hoping for.

after an evening of thinking about what this means and what it could do to us positively or negatively, would have loved a day in blackpool.

i beleive though that with other teams in that competition they will be playing games every week, whereas we may get weekends off and could help recoveries for players,

having weeks off in the season could be a good thing and could help us to stay as fresh as possible throughout the season

Beswick I must ask why is he playing, he has done nothing this season so far, drop him.
Blacky needs to get his head sorted out, come on Blacky we all want it for you but its down to you to get out of this hole you have got in, we will back you mate.
Not many came out of that game with any credit, even big Frank that dropped ball cost us the game,but we coughed up the ball far too many times and our defending was none existent, Hunslet just ran through us to score, terrible defending.
Oh well the joys of being a Fax fan a high quickly followed by a low.
Lets take it out on Leigh next week.

Didn't stop one of the players and a member of the coaching staff jumping straight in their cars after the hooter for a quick exit.

A senior player (or any player!) should be talking to the coaching staff about this, not a fan in a bar! Neither do i think it helpful in any way to put it on a public forum.

Disappointing

Why disappointing?

He chose to air it in a public bar and I re-aired it on a PUBLIC forum. I have purposely not mentioned any names also. I think fans have a right to know what the players have and are saying don't you? - I could have said much more of what he shared but chose not to. Things clearly are not all rosy in the camp for one reason or another if the players comments are true. I tend to beleive him as you would if you knew who it was. Yes maybe it was aired in disatisfaction (by said player) due to the defeat but he clearly alluded to a NON TEAM environment, poor training environment and inner wranglings and that is what worries me most.

All the "Holier than thou" preachers on here really need to take the rose tinted glasses off after what is tantamount to one of the most disgusting and gutless, non effort rugby diaplays of the last decade never mind anything else. With the squad we have currently, irrespective of match practice etc we should be easily qualifying for the NRC cup. If you can't see that your as blind as the next idiot.

i too heard at yesterdays game that they is issues in the dressing room , an i was also told that a plyer who recently signed a two year contract has asked to be released



it seems something isnt just right

You talking about a certain Aussie halfback by any chance?

sent you a PM

Sounds like something I'd heard that...

Replied matey.

Some people only comment to breed negativity and panic. If there is some truth behind this crap it will be announced when any contracts are severed. Until then there is nothing to gain from gossiping like a load of high school girls.

I prefer posts like this Chris.



Maybe i am burying my head in the sand but i fail to see how putting potentially explosive comments on a forum helps the club - especially at this early stage. The performance yesterday was dreadful but Thursday's was tremendous. I just think that some people can't wait to get their teeth into a bit of scandal instead of letting the dust settle and allowing the coaching team to sort out any potential unrest.

Its typical Halifax fans though, we lose and something must be wrong, players out on the lash, changing room unrest etc. Always been the case.

And generally when rumours are about there generally is something wrong!! - I've followed the club too long to know this!! - We are all entitled to opinions but as always unless an opinion is the same as the "norm" on here it is shot down in flames. I posted a genuine comment from a very senior player who we all admire and he was happy to talk to us in this manner, openly and candidly. Why not post it? I'm not breaking his confidence, he spoke in front of enough of us!!

Also this is not rumour it is fact as i am quoting from the horses mouth as it were. I am prepared to see what happens and won't call for Callands head YET! However questions are being asked in the inner circle of players and this doesn't bode well. I just hope I'm made to eat my words, afterall we all want the best for the club.

No Smoke without Fire. As I said above I've heard something along the same lines, and it didnt come from a player, so its getting around one way or another.

When the same story about the same person is going around, it usually has an element of truth in it.

Chris Smith, the thing you are choosing to ignore is that IT DOES NOT HELP ANYONE TO GOSSIP ON HERE!

You just like feeling important and in the know.

Rumour Beswick isnt happy either btw, Black wants to return to Aus or sign for a bigger club to further his career in England.

You really are a stupid little boy Nat. Grow Up.

You may not like the post but it is FACT as it is how that particular player felt at that time yesterday. I am sure this is a PUBLIC forum and we lived in democracy in the UK. Why does this make me feel important and in the know when all I have done is repeat what was said to me infront of a half dozen other fans at the same time??

You would know all about wanting to try feel important with the way you try to dictate on this board. . . run along little boy and get a grip.

This is like the same garbage that went around this time last year.

Yes I am the imature one. Name calling

Please feel free to ignore the actual point of my message. You have said it yourself;



The player was obviously upset after that performance. He said something to half a dozen people in a bar when asked. Do you really think he wanted it on here? I am not trying to dictate anything. Just stating my opinion. That gossip helps nobody so why bother.

You miss the point entirely - We simply asked " So what happened today" the same as we asked Ben Black who simply answered we were $hit. When we asked this player (who incidently didn't play yesterday) he immediately questioned several things, not based on just yesterdays performance as he spoke at length, in detail including the stuff I have mentioned here and on other threads. He seemed genuinely disgusted about lots of stuff and spoke openly about his thoughts, ambitions and frustrations. As a fan who has paid up front for a season ticket all I ask is effort and that wasn't there yesterday. I haven't once called for Calland to be sacked in my postings in the last 24 hours (I have my own opinion of MC and have had for 18 months) but what does concern me is this player clearly isn't happy about what is happening behind the scenes and was clearly disenchanted yesterday. Does that not concern you cos it does me.

Not really, if there is unrest in the camp it hasn't shown until yesterday. And even that could be explained by much less ominous reasons. You can predict what rumours are going to surface weeks in advance. Blacky has been out of form, plain for anyone to see this is because of injury, yet you can see the "blacky is off home" rumours coming a mile off.

Chris, answer me honestly, if we had beat Hunslet 60-0, and when congratulated the same player went on a tirade about trouble in the camp, would you be repeating it on here so eagerly?

Whatever is happening behind the scenes is out of our control. All I know is that I trust the people in charge and their judgement.

Lets not underestimate how draining physically and just as important mentally Thursdays game was, the turn around was too soon for those who doubled up, and also these that came in are simply not match fit.