Des (and not the players) took the trophy before the game because the players didin't want to be distracted by 'celebrating' before the game. They did plenty after the final hooter. It is the RFL that dictates that the League Leaders Shield is presented at the 1st v 2nd playoff match.

ooohh, what a clever idiot that des is, he and the rest of our club, just stuffed a well oiled halifax team, (county mile ? do you remember that?)

I was.

And it is very clear that Des Johnston is completely up his own @rse. He should not take the trophy..... The trophy is earned by the players and it should have been the captain taking the trophy, but it was very clear who won the trophy.... Des's cash

remember it well and at the time it was very true.
now a distant memory.

I'd still give my right arm for someone willing to put money into Halifax like Des, who is also as passionate.

I wouldn't however want the interfering side of the Barrow Chairman!! - I for one take my hat off to the guy and the Barrow club. At least when they make statements of intent they achieve them

If he was in charge, whats the betting he would have sacked Calland by now?

It was the RFL & Sky who insisted the trophy be given before the game. I would see it as a major distraction for the captain to go and receive it before K.O. Had it been at the end (when I think it should have !!) then the captain would have got it.

In all probability high. I'll be honest I have floated between get rid of Matt and that it would be a silly knee jerk reaction. However many of the performances of late have been so flat and if we do end the season with nothing then I would hope that a review should be taken. If we are serious about SL and wanting to achieve then a season with nothing to show at the end would in my view be a failure and a backwards step from last year. Irrespective of the 2nd place the squad was improved from last year as was the back room staff. The promise of a squad peaking at the right time if I remember rightly, this just hasn't happened.

I am completely at a loss though to what the answer is as I really don't see a replacement if we were to go down that route. Calland is a young coach learning his trade but I also think he lacks the credentials to turn us into a real force. I could talk about all of this for hours!!

MC position does need a review, Fax have got a major RL cold and no one appears to know how to cure it.

However as you say the talk of MC replacement must take place at end of season and not now. Whilst he has games to go and the season is not over MC bashing will achieve nothing.

Quote taken from the Barrow forum posted by Jon Livesey (Barrow Vice Chairman) .....

Just for clarification this is directly out of an E-mail from the RFL:

"I am emailing to make you aware of the arrangements for the League Leaders presentation on Thursday evening.

Gary Tasker, the RFL’s Director of Development will be attending the game and presenting the League Leaders shield to Des Johnston. This will be taking place before KO, at 7.15pm.

Hope that clears that issue up."

Feeling a little stupid now are we Bob ??? You should

I've said it before we'd love somebody who would put money in like Des does. I would prefer Steve o'connor from Widnes though, not just because he's got more money but the way he sems to go about things. You never really hear a great deal from him, unlinke des. What was des' announcement about at half time yesterday? couldn't hear a word of it.

He was asking the fans to help the club go forward and stump up extra cash eg. join lottery.

i would just love for us to have a fat cat millionaire funding the club, even if he was the biggest ...... in the world (excluding me)

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Er no it would mean we would be on a more level playing field as without all his money Barrow would be nowt.
How does he get away with it???

How did Des make all his money anyway? He looks like a scruffy brickie to me.

Come on. Are you serious? We need stories like Barrow's in the game. Look what can be achieved if you put your mind (and yes, resources) to it. He's talked the talk, but he's also walked the walk. I have no problems with that. I know there were no cap rules in 1984 but David Brook bought 14 Australians to turn our club around. The game needs people like this.

Yes (for your club if its where the money man is of course you would take it) and No for the longevity of RL (its not sustaianble) and its honesty as come on how do Barrow do it within the salary cap, it must be cash in hand???

How do we do it? That's what oppositions fans say about us - brown envelopes and all that crap. How do Harlequins do it for the love of God? Either it's all legit or the RFL are turning a blind eye/are incompetent.

Er I can say that with this current Board we do not run dodgy dealings as they know its folly, it bites you in the backside eventually like getting a SL franchise ever.
We are fairly well run (sorry club but we still have gaps), we have a succesful lottery, good Diners club and decent sponsorhip and support compared to most clubs in our league.
Whose side you on as you always seem to have a go at me for having a poke at other clubs by comparing our antics of years gone by, why???

All of the above and if you open Richard Lewis' shirt a little Maurice Lindsay appears in his chest like the mutant in Total Recall

See how riled you've got by me poking a stick into a hornet's nest? Do you have any other inside info on Barrow because that is exactly what you've just done to them in your post above!

"Get your ass to Mars...................."

Its the old old story you cannot prove it cos its not traceable. You can chose not to believe it as its your choice but proof? You aint gonna get it are you so that makes it untrue in your eyes I guess?
I can tell you that Bracek is on £70K cos he is payed by Warrington and Barrow!

I will leave you with this fact - Barrow have come from nowhere in 2 years, great for them and good on 'em but how???

MONEY.

But what sets them apart from us if you have no facts to back it up? Have you seen our squad? What do we pay them in - washers? (well, maybe after last night

) I'm only saying that conjecture is pointless.

Maybe we all should go? - We might get a SL license and Fat Nige would just think he'd won a years supply . . . . . . Happy Days!