did not mean was drinking.

No it doesn't, still doesn't come accross as very professional though. I doubt any giants or saints players were out in their respective town centres on saturday night!

....but probably out in another!!

Singling out individual players isn't fair, nor is it going to achieve anything.

Ben Black didn't lose us the game on Sunday, nor did Penky, but yes they had poor games. They weren't alone.

As a collective, we have been out of sorts for a month now.

Thursday's game is massive if we still have title aspirations.

Sort it out lads!!!! Please!

wanner bet!

I am sorry but Ben Black has lost all his confidence,yesterday against Whiteheaven he was totally non existant.He never tried one bit,this can be two things 1,is that he simply is not fit or 2,he,s lost his confidence.We all expected him to come good at widnes and he was awful,to make up for that terrible blunder after his last outing against them.Shad Royston is definetly playing with injury,he is another who the team look to creating oppertunities but he is also not playing well.Penky knocked on 3 times at the play the ball,everyone knows what he was trying to do,he was trying to take advantage of the quick play the ball and capilize on the tireing haven forwards but sometimes we need to consolidate possession and build on it.We need to improve because all season we have leaked far to many points both home and away and the league table does not tell lies.Come on lads get your acts together or we will be finishing the season on a low after such a great start.Sheffield will be hard because they themselves have hit a little bit of form but surely we must be up for this and hope the vikings can do us a favor at Barrow.

it isnt bens fault we lost on sunday the reason we lost was because for 60 mins haven outplayed us got in our faces and got on top of us all we can do is get down 2 sheffield and get behind them from the start they need liftin and the drop ball incident from ben has certainly had a big effect on him hopefully he will be ok

Go on then jonnie, which giants or saints players were out?

I don't blaim him, however it is concerning if any of the players go out the night before a game. Whether you are drinking or not having a late night (if this is the case) isn't a good idea.

I can't really say much more though as I didn't see him so don't know if he was drinking or what time he was out until.

does he not lodge with one of the fax coaches? if still does they must have known he was out and not worried about it.