Unless as Littlerich says you manage to dominate the playing side of things with 3 consequtive GF wins then no

Widnes are the Championship club the RFL want and the one they will get

agree.
would love to see fax back there but dont think will due to what RFL want.
the letter about grounds was just the warning RFL put out to ensure some get work done so they dont have to promote more than one team.

true..

their clearly paving a way for widnes for the next round in super league....u telling me that if wed have won the northern rail cup this year wed have got the long feature on the super league show on the bbc this wkend?!! biggin them up.......no chance!lol

toulouse will be next...followed by gateshead, unless we really shake things up by winning loadser trophies over next 2.5 years, and keep progressing off field.

theres no way our crowds are gonna skyrocket unless we get back in super league. give us a chance and i belive we would suceed. with three years to get better and better.

all we can do is keep supporting and hope!!!!

starting with fev on friday! =blue[size=200COME ON FAX!!!![/size

If the progress off the field as well as on it continues at the current steady rate as it's currently at, we'll get in without many worries I.M.O.

We NEED to win the trophies available, simple, that equals the general public's/business sponsorship's interest in the club, raise it's profile and provide income.

The stadium as I see it is out of the club's hands, but finger's crossed.

Retain the current management & board, C.E.O. things are moving nicely.

Some SL club's should be looking over their shoulder's in this current finanacial climate, combined with their delapidated stadia.

I would say yes we have a chance, we will be in a better postion that a few current super league clubs by mid season 2011. We are progressing very well both off and on the field, despite attendances not being as high as we would like we are up on last year, and we dont give away tickets like other clubs to boost their attendences (maybe we should play their game?).
With regard to the financial backer, would we want someone who has overall control like widnes, barrow, celtic? i certainly wouldnt what would happen when the owners love for the club goes or it begins to cost them more than they want to put in? Celtic is a prime example. Having a few people putting abit of money in, coupled with increased attendances aswell as commercial/sponsorship is the best way to go.

Yes Widnes seems at the PRESENT time the club that most people expect to go up, however 2 years is a long time, we have a lot of rugby to play between now and then. If our own supporters dont believe that we can, how do we expect new/old supporters to believe that we can get into super league.

Yes we have a chance provided we get to the Grand Final at least once hopefully more, keep increasing the crowds and really push that new stand as well as making sure the stadium is well kept (not with the current regime it won't but lets hope CMBC get a proper stadium manager in).

I get annoyed that people are saying it has to be Widnes - yer they are in front of us with their ground and winning the NRC but we will catch them up on those two, yer their crowds are bigger but they have not had the depths of desapir to suffer like we have since 1999 really. The main difference is they have a money man, that should not come into it as rich chairman can be short term it should be looked at in the long term = sustainable. Plus Widnes are like us near existing SL clubs.
I think we and Widnes should be both be looked at for admission against existing SL clubs that fail to meet the SL criteria.

As for Toulouse, why?
So it further justifies having Catalans in and give them a derby?
They don't have the ground, they don't have the support (inflated figures are given deffo) and they will be yet another expensive trip for fans to make, they are unlikeley to go to both French clubs have the RFL thought of that?

Should the potential for AWAY support not be taken into account, ask Leeds, Bradford, Cas and Huddersfield who they would rather play Fax or Toulouse??
No brainer, 1K minimum would go from Halifax.

Maybe Fax should start doing like other clubs and add 500 on the gates???

I agree mate fax and widnes should replace salford and wakey.

Maybe we should offer the RFL false promises, its worked for some clubs in the past. We will increase our attendances

Well that Dome going on top of our roof to keep the rain out should help. Oh and apparently Gordon "fkn" Ramsey is taking over the Catering Contract and Laura Ashley are doing out the Exec Boxes. What with Dubai Holdings coming in as our main backers next season, how could they possibly turn us down?

That is the general consensus.

Wakey have had a decent enough run in SL (since 1999) without bringing much to SL, other than defeating the odds (with Kear at the helm). I like wakey as a club, they are a lot like us, but fair is fair, they are no better a club than ours, and our stadium, even in its current incomplete state - is better than Belle Vue (by a country mile) so we should be in SL at their expense.

It is a similar story for widnes and Salford. Salford are seen as a development team, being in Greater Manchester - on that basis - that area has been a RL development area for over 100 years. Its not like the GM area hasnt had spells of success in the past, especially Swinton. The GM area has had ample opportunity to develop RL, with little success. Salford are in SL purely as they are a GM club, and this is just garbage. In addition, they are no closer to the completion (or starting) of their new stadium than two years ago.

So I feel that Widnes and ourselves could be the ones to replace Salford and Wakefield, with Toulouse being the potential spanner in the works. I would only like to see Toulouse admitted as a replacement for Celtic...which will not happen.

I know you said it in jest but thats what I like about the current set up at Halifax, they are doing things right, okay they still have some things to improve (like admin I believe, bills not been sent to diners for example) but they are getting there and are delivering on what they say.
Keep it up guys, it is what will sway those at Red Hall, people who they can trust not those who they know talk big but won't deliver, well I hope they will anyway.

To make the competition really European, get the French TV money and more matches on TV. The Europeanisation is a one way street, and it is the street to make of the SL one of the grand European competition while it was until recently a regional competition snubbed by Southerners in England.
I understand that some fans of good CC clubs are upset by this development, but let me give me a comparison.

Today a reporter from ITV commenting Le Tour reminded the viewers that initially it was a national race from France and now it is dominated by foreigners. For sure French would like to see French win the Tour, but if this race has become the race number one in the World it is by welcoming the best riders of the world. French are proud of this race, even if French riders do not win as much as in the early days...

The SL is different obviously and in particular in the fact that English clubs will always be in the topflight of SL (at least in the next 70 years). Having a great European competition will bring money, interest in the South of England and increased TV. This rise in profile will naturally dwindle down to the CC which will become the anti-chamber of SL (and hopefully P&R will be reinstated at some point).

I have no illusion of convincing you as I understand that you are likely to be frustrated by the difference between the performance of your team on the field and its chance to go in SL. However, I would like to state my conviction that the Europeanisation of the SL will be for the greatest good of RL in England. I expect crowds to increase over time and the interest and TV coverage of CC to increase.

I agree that expansion is good for the game. But this should be seperate to the natural progression of teams from the games heartlands. If a team from Europe are ready then they should be in, but not at the exspense of a current team.

I cant see any reason stopping all three of Widnes, Toulouse and Fax going into SL next. Us and Widnes replacing Salford and Wakefield/Celtic, and Toulouse going in as an expansion side.

Just a thought but...........
How many football Clubs come from London?
How many RL clubs come out of Sydney?

Cant understand why being in W Yorks should go against us, i would call that discrimination in any book!

Agree with most here - no.

If you can dominate the Championship from now until the end of next season, they could sneak in if a SL club goes down the pan or if Widnes do. I'm pretty confident we'll get in next time.

They have developed International class players and at least 1 world class player, when was the last time fax did?

The best thing we can ALL do, is make it almost impossible not to pick us, or at least consider expanding the comp to the same as the NRL.

We do that as fans by turning up, supprting in numbers, bringing friends along, buy shirts, cash fax, and making sure our club is beyond criticism.

Were half way there, with a stand, a trophy, increased support were in a very good position. We have a population greater than Widnes, Leigh and Castleford by quite a bit (yes i studied Geography)

Maybe we do need to forget that Hudds, Bfd and Leeds are bigger and start focusing our great rugby town, a founder member and a place of great potential.

I think all the negativity started with Gartland and was left in tatters after Nigel Woods stint. We all wax lyrical about Brook and Ackroyds days but we punched above our weight for a bit and paid the price financially. Good times all the same, and im very greatful to them.

Come on you Blues!

I think wakey been lucky to get a top class coach in kear.He gets the best out of players and i sure he be a success at any club.If he left wakey i am sure their results would change.Kear go back to a bigger club such as hull.

p.d thats poor



We could start a whole new thread on this one, every week we watch lads that started with us starring in Super League games, im not even going to bore you with names, i dont have time.. I hope that Tickles your fancy, and Grix you in a better frame of mind, Chester an idea, I have a friend with Hodgsons disease.... oh im bored already, you clearly know too little to waste my time

Plenty have come to Fax as teenagers, we do after all have the best Amatuer RL side in the country a stones throw from the Shay... but then again you know Sid'all'. so i wont go on anymore.

Catalans justify their own place in Superleague with their decent crowds and development of French players. As far as im aware prior to joining SL Catalans were getting smaller crowds than Toulouse are now. Within the space of twelve months their fan base grew tremendously. I'd wager a few bob that Toulouse would get higher crowds in SL than Fax AND that they would redevelop their own stadium in a lot less time than it has taken Fax to build one stand.

The aim of SL has always been to create a national if not European competition, football fans manage to travel all over the country every other week so why not rl fans?




How many football clubs don't come from London? A lot more than those that come from London thats for sure. Point is there might be loads in London but there are also far more who are not in London.

Thats not the case in RL, nearly all the clubs are in one area and theres next to none in other areas.

We shall see, you are forgetting one thing and we saw it was very apparent - Toulouse is a Rugby Union stronghold and there is not much interest in the RL team.
I think people are seeing things through rose tinted specs.
They see what they want to see and that is that all things expansionist are good and there will be big crowds and fans flocking to the game as a result it is a European league.
Bullsh*t it aint gonna happen, the game now is worse supportwise than it has been for a decade, so what has our expansion clubs done for us then???
Nowt except allow RL to say its played in more than just the M62 corridor.
The question is has it been worth it???
Not in my book no. You get games with no atmosphere and little interest as be honest nobody cares in these areas about RL, maybe apart from Catalans but for how long?
The point is you have to build on solid foundations and for RL that means, like it or not, in its heartlands and the way it treats the clubs lower than SL is weakening the game imo.

Siddal lads every one of 'em lad.
Not a good comeback actually, Leon will put you right.

Er Luke Robinson not a Halifax born lad then?
or Stuart Fielden?
Plenty of Halifax lads have made it in RL, lik there have been plentyof Leigh and Oldham lads.
Not seen many London lads yet???

He didn't mention Robinson or Fielden in that quote. I know fine well which junior clubs they played for, but he didn't mention them.


Grixy's played for King Cross by the way, so did Hobbo, but you'd know all of that I suppose.