I certainly wanted Karl in the job, he was one of my heroes and I personally thought he'd got Batley punching way above their weight... With more resources available I thought it was a marriage made in heaven with his passion and love for the club for all to see.... I remember Batley fans telling me they were glad to see the back of him and I thought it was sour grapes....

The BOD will again do what's right although I'd expect they are tied due to his contract. As a fan who welcomed Karl and applauded his appointment sadly it hasn't worked out and I think a fresh start is needed but I expect us to start next season with Harrison in charge.

Perhaps there are 3 choices,
1. Karl falls on his sword, "I love this club but I feel for the best of Halifax RLFC I step aside"
2. The board talk to him "We will pay up the last 12 months of your contract if, you walk away, we will tell everyone that we did not want you to leave but you felt it best for Halifax RLFC"
3. Karl stays because the board have every faith in him.
Whatever the board must avoid the same acrimonious departure Karl had last time.

As you say Chris, it hasn't worked out.

At 28 points, Things were looking good but it was all downhill from then on. Does anyone know about off loading in the tackle???????????????????

If you sit in the stands around the half way line you obviously get a good side on view.

Again it is so obvious that the two markers virtually do nothing and concede yards at the play the ball.

Along with that our line speed, if you can call it that consists of taking two slow steps forward and a sort of little jump into the air like a set of morris dancers.

These two elements alone give so much space to the oppositon it's unreal, wether it is a dummy half run or quick pass to the first receiver we are never in there faces they just run through the line getting free field position.

It was the likes of Fev that would get on top of us because of this but now most sides are benefitting from it.

The only time we seem to show any aggression and real effort in this area is on the rare occasion that we get the opposition pinned near their own goal line and then we might pile in for a couple of plays, as anyone else noticed that these rare occasions are getting even rarer.

This is what has me really concerned that we can't even get basic marker and line defense right and when we concede the yards we do conceding the try's soon follow.

We have been a bit hit and miss for a while now but we look like a set of total strangers that have not played together before.

There's got to be more to it than meets the eye, is it the daft timing of the contracts again or something else, something is definately not right.

One thing Halifax need to worry about is that the fans are not coming in and once they go it will take so time to get them back Although another bad day for you today it wasn't a loss you are going to be in the playoffs and anything could happen and last of all the championship need strong clubs and it needs Fax to be one of them

Donny's 2nd half plan was simple enough. Up the middle and then go at Handforth.

Are we fit enough? Doesn't appear so. It was the first time I've seen us use all our subs up before the visitors.

Two of the subs were forced though with injury/blood bin

When were not marking or moving up it's an open invitation, you have a static defender against a guy running flat out which most of the time means yards conceded.

When we did hold then a bit further out plan B was give the ball to Cook to sky it as high as possible and wait for the aftermath.

Even Ryan who was stand out earlier in the year looks well out of sorts.

Having just read Harrison's comments on the Courier I'm 100% certain the bloke needs to throw in the towel. Never read so much cr@p... Same old rubbish he spouts every week. It's getting boring just like the rugby he has got us playing

Me too I have felt our season ended when Fev tonked us we looked lost that night and then against York, Barrow, Leigh and today have just confirmed this.
Its not good though as our crowds are down and after today some of the crowd I am with aint coming next week.
Worrying, very worrying.
Can Karl turn this around as this is his team and his style, its boring?

Sounds like we're in a rough place right now and could be reaching a tipping point.

Remember, we have a great board. They will do what is needed

Karl has until the end of the season for me then must go. He signed the Players and is his tactics that are proving poor and boring. Karl is a Fax Legend and clearly loves the club- one reason why I didnt think he should be Coach. Personally I dont care where the Coach or Players are from as long as they perform somewhere near their potential and entertain. Trophies are a Bonus. Fax are doing neither since Karl signed.

It musnt be pleasant reading for the BOD when they come on this forum at the moment and I have to say i have never seen a coach recover when it has come to this point. Can KH become the first to turn it around or will it just be a case of delaying the inevitable once again?

The problem isnt so much the losing games its the losing fans, die hard fans at that, who are saying they wont come and watch the style of rugby we are playing. The problem then is that the people who are coming to watch probably are not going to try and bring others to watch if they dont think it is value for money, which at the moment I would struggle to find someone who thinks that it is.

I'd say the problem is losing the games, I can take playing poor or unattractive rugby if we get results. Its the losing part or drawing after throwing good leads away aka Batley and yesterday that loses the fans.

Ironically though we through the win at Batley by not closing the game down and shutting up shop when we had it won by being expansive throwing daft passes out at the wrong time in the game.

Recently we have been too dour and not throwing the passes out.

In between we have been terrific against some of the lower sides scoring 50 points or more but unable to get the results against the better sides.

Probably a good solid game plan that knows when to play both types of game with CONSISTENCY is the key.

When im bored i have a fag,but sadly that option
has been taken away too.

We had some entertainment yesterday. A bloke spilled his pint and apparently the group he stood with have a rule that you have to lick every step that the said pint spills upon. He proceeded to lick 5 steps of the terrace. He even asked one bloke stood against a crush barrier to step aside so he could finish the task.

With sideshows like that, you don't need ciggies

Come on my Fax friends , these posts are disturbing , Charlie (Believe it or not )doesn't like to see you so downbeat , your season is not over yet ,you have the players to turn things around , maybe Karl has lost the plot , Charlie doesn't know

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What has happened to the Fax on Fire attitude ?Remember the Alamo , and get together as a group , Nail Littlerich to a Small Door , it might make you feel better



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Thanks for that. I was just thinking, what the Fax fans need right now is some eeijit from Leigh chatting sheeeeeeeeite on here.

Thanks Charlie. We know.......

Rich you KNOW I have a soft spot for YOU

,its Swamp at the bottom of my Garden



,seriously though, I get no pleasure from seeing you lot so downbeat , we all go through bad patches , you had a great April,but Charlie DID predict it would end , the play-offs are approaching you will be there , a Fax v Leythers GF , would be great , you never Know , even Charlie doesn't .

Think i saw that--it was at the bottom of south stand terrace-right ?

Well Rich owt beats having to watch Fax try to play Rugby , look after my mate the Worrier .

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Three quarters of the way up, ending up licking his way to half way down

Did you mean a cigarette ?

Of course he did. We're not Septics, you know.