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| Quote ="Fax4Life"You joking right???
Now lets see if Leigh get to the GF and go and beat Fev we will then see how great the Fev fans are won't we???
God help Leigh fans if that happens
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I think it is time to give it a rest now.... please
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| Quote ="ovo4fev"I think it is time to give it a rest now.... please'"
Sorry can't after being too close to both bad incidents with some of your fans it has left a very bitter taste in the mouth. You would feel the same I am sure.
Until your fans 'redeem' themselves by accepting defeat like most other RL fans I will not change my mind.
Lets see at the GF shall we?? (although I think you are slightly ahead and will win if it is Leigh but who knows you are both so close?)
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| Well difficult to argue with that even though I am a traditionalist.
You should know though there is a spelling error in you're post There is directional. Their is a belonging spelling.
Ok off to bed.
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| Quote ="Fax4Life"Sorry can't after being too close to both bad incidents with some of your fans it has left a very bitter taste in the mouth. You would feel the same I am sure.
Until your fans 'redeem' themselves by accepting defeat like most other RL fans I will not change my mind.
Lets see at the GF shall we?? (although I think you are slightly ahead and will win if it is Leigh but who knows you are both so close?)'"
Snipping on a public Internet Forum is not going to help things improve is it? Everyone is entitled to their thoughts but all real fans ought to be trying to calm the situation down.
If views like yours upset the majority of good fans then the bad people feel their actions are more acceptable, and we cannot afford to let that happen
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| and there's the rub Martin.
Whilst I accept that posts like that are not now the norm and the conciliatory dialogue is growing in increasing numbers, I find it difficult to rise above some of the generic and unnecessary comments I read on here.
I don't have to "redeem" myself for anything. I've never done or said anything in an abusively aggressive manner to anyone - EVER!!
I've discussed this at length with Fevgrinder and others, and given the job I do you'd think I'd find it easy to put into some kind of perspective.
But this is my achilles heel. I find such generically applied comments wholly offensive as I do the willingness to tar me with the same brush as the aggressors, and because of this I find it difficult to rise above it.
Dialogue and action with the Leigh fans has been nothing short of fantastic - and to be honest, we've got to the point where I consider many of the Leigh lot to be mates now.
I wished it could be similar with the Fax fans but while ever there are some contributors to this forum who would rather perpetuate anger rather than seek concilliation, I fear it is an uphill battle. Not unsurmountable, and it will require an element of developing an ability to ignore their crapola, but an uphill battle all the same.
Love and Peace
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| Fev will will the gf by a mile and leigh will have had a good season but beware karls men are coming
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| Quote ="ovo4fev"Snipping on a public Internet Forum is not going to help things improve is it? Everyone is entitled to their thoughts but all real fans ought to be trying to calm the situation down.
If views like yours upset the majority of good fans then the bad people feel their actions are more acceptable, and we cannot afford to let that happen'"
Just go away will you I was stating FACT its not 'sniping' as you call it, I know you Fev fans want this to just go away and so do we but like I said until SOME of your fans can take a defeat without resorting to violence or threatening behaviour it won't.
What do you want us to do erase a the horror from my brain???
Take it from me I am also a Leeds Utd fan not that i go much these days but back in the 80's I saw some horrible stuff and the Fev fans were on a par with that, okay with you to tell what i saw with my own eyes?
Good luck in the Final and on the pitch you have had another good season well done.
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| Quote ="Fax4Life"Just go away will you I was stating FACT its not 'sniping' as you call it, I know you Fev fans want this to just go away and so do we but like I said until SOME of your fans can take a defeat without resorting to violence or threatening behaviour it won't.
What do you want us to do erase a the horror from my brain???
Take it from me I am also a Leeds Utd fan not that i go much these days but back in the 80's I saw some horrible stuff and the Fev fans were on a par with that, okay with you to tell what i saw with my own eyes?
Good luck in the Final and on the pitch you have had another good season well done.'"
However you were not stating fact, you were talking about the future which is conjecture. I never said erase from your brain, I said stop posting on public forum. BTW, I feel the same about Robin's post.
Just one final thought... given that Leeds Utd did not have the best reputation did it sit well that as a good supporter you were thought of in the same light?
Thanks for the good wishes and I wish Fax all the best and look forward to some cracking games next year.
Yes OK, I will go away now and leave you to it.
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| Quote ="ovo4fev"However you were not stating fact, you were talking about the future which is conjecture. I never said erase from your brain, I said stop posting on public forum. BTW, I feel the same about Robin's post.
Just one final thought... given that Leeds Utd did not have the best reputation did it sit well that as a good supporter you were thought of in the same light?
Thanks for the good wishes and I wish Fax all the best and look forward to some cracking games next year.
Yes OK, I will go away now and leave you to it.'"
Great post.
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| Quote ="Rotherham Fev Fan"and there's the rub Martin.
Whilst I accept that posts like that are not now the norm and the conciliatory dialogue is growing in increasing numbers, I find it difficult to rise above some of the generic and unnecessary comments I read on here.
I don't have to "redeem" myself for anything. I've never done or said anything in an abusively aggressive manner to anyone - EVER!!
I've discussed this at length with Fevgrinder and others, and given the job I do you'd think I'd find it easy to put into some kind of perspective.
But this is my achilles heel. I find such generically applied comments wholly offensive as I do the willingness to tar me with the same brush as the aggressors, and because of this I find it difficult to rise above it.
Dialogue and action with the Leigh fans has been nothing short of fantastic - and to be honest, we've got to the point where I consider many of the Leigh lot to be mates now.
I wished it could be similar with the Fax fans but while ever there are some contributors to this forum who would rather perpetuate anger rather than seek concilliation, I fear it is an uphill battle. Not unsurmountable, and it will require an element of developing an ability to ignore their crapola, but an uphill battle all the same.
Love and Peace'"
Robin, that's exactly the reason why i made a point of coming to have a chat with you & Fevgrinder at HT on sunday. Fevgrinder, I've previously only ever met once before over a swift tinny at HT on our most recent visit to your place in the Blue Lagoon with my mate Marky Mark. I offered to bring over a Fax scarf or something similar to pin up in the Lagoon next time I come over.
Dialogue is the beginning.
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| Aye and it was good to meet you. It will be better over a pint like!!
We had some good craic with some young lads outside the cricketers. They were top lads and up for a laugh.
And I agree dialogue is the begining. But Jeses H Arkwright, some of the posts on here are unbelieveable and have nothing positive to offer whatsoever, though I've noticed over time those posters are begining to appear in the minority now.
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| Quote ="Rotherham Fev Fan"Aye and it was good to meet you. It will be better over a pint like!!
We had some good craic with some young lads outside the cricketers. They were top lads and up for a laugh.
And I agree dialogue is the begining. But Jeses H Arkwright, some of the posts on here are unbelieveable and have nothing positive to offer whatsoever, though I've noticed over time those posters are begining to appear in the minority now.'"
Your just as bad at the wind up yourself on other sites RFF, having to comment on anything Halifax related, not getting into arguments or anything but just stating what i see.
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| Quote ="Faxhali"Your just as bad at the wind up yourself on other sites RFF, having to comment on anything Halifax related, not getting into arguments or anything but just stating what i see.'"
Oh I know - I accept that. Like I said on our forum, this stuff is my achilles heel. I ought to be able to deal with it, - process it better, and given the job I do I am a bit disappointed in myself that I don't deal with it better.
I'm a flawed character. But having read some of the stuff I've been generically associated/accused of, if Sheffield won by 70 it wouldn't have been enough!
Looking at it - I honestly accept it looks petty and childish. It's daft, but that's how this crapola has got me feeling - I resent that too!
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| Quote ="Rotherham Fev Fan"Oh I know - I accept that. Like I said on our forum, this stuff is my achilles heel. I ought to be able to deal with it, - process it better, and given the job I do I am a bit disappointed in myself that I don't deal with it better.
I'm a flawed character. But having read some of the stuff I've been generically associated/accused of, if Sheffield won by 70 it wouldn't have been enough!
Looking at it - I honestly accept it looks petty and childish. It's daft, but that's how this crapola has got me feeling - I resent that too!'"
You are no different to some of us more tamed fans then. I also have had digs before but now try not to do it and calm the situation, the problem being that niggly little comments are just the catalysts for the other to bring up the past. Lets hope next season brings some quality games between both clubs, Perhaps a you win one we win one scenaria could be the best for both clubs ( NO, i am not a match Fixer ) then we cant argue about you kicking our asses and you been bottlers and all that rubbish.
But just so you know RFF, I hope you get golden pointed. ( couldn't resist, i really tried too but at least you will take it as was intended, FUN )
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If it gets anywhere near the golden point I'll be in hospital!
My blood pressure is a problem - at Batley this year I briefly lost consciousness for a second or two as I'd got myself so wound up - when Tommy went in right at the end I went nuts and then blacked out fhs!!! Barmy! Watching RL can seriously damage my health so another GP would be almost suicide to watch!!!!!
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| Quote ="Fax4Life"Serious question, how are you funding your reserve, U18, U16 and U15 teams?? We struggle to fund our U23s so no offence on crowds of 600 home fans how do you manage? Do you get anything from the RFL as a Development area?'"
No. Because Sheffield is not a Development Area.
What you need to be asking your Board is why can't Fax afford to run reserve, U18, U16 and U15 teams when you have crowds twice the size of Sheffield's. Or Fev's for that matter, because they do the same on crowds not much better than Sheffield. Where's the money going ?
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| This is me just talking to myself. (I seem to do that a lot lately, I think it's age slowly creeping up.)
I'm thinking.
Why don't we just support our clubs without all the slagging off, strike counterstrike scenario.
I post something.
Often it starts as banter then before long and we end up hating one another over what??? exactly.
I can never actually work out most of the times why this happens or what it has happened over.
I really want other teams to do well because to simply survive these days at our level has selfless people busting a gut for very little return because they love their clubs and the game.
This week I hope that Leigh and Sheffield really give it to one another and have a cracking game and may the best team win.
Likewise when the winner plays Fev I hope it's a belter.
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| Good post.
Anyway, the Fax-Sheffield war will be a thing of the past next year because Tubbs and Karl are mates.
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| Quote ="ovo4fev"However you were not stating fact, you were talking about the future which is conjecture. I never said erase from your brain, I said stop posting on public forum. BTW, I feel the same about Robin's post.
Just one final thought... given that Leeds Utd did not have the best reputation did it sit well that as a good supporter you were thought of in the same light?
Thanks for the good wishes and I wish Fax all the best and look forward to some cracking games next year.
Yes OK, I will go away now and leave you to it.'"
Fact is pal this is as you stated a PUBLIC FORUM and a Halifax RLFC fans forum.
Oh and in answer to your question I disliked some of my own fans at Leeds Utd and wanted things to chnage but I was also a realist and knew that a lot of the trouble was caused by my own fans, which is my point as ever some Fev fans just cannot accpet that it was the RESULTS that caused the two incidents to happen, sadly for us we were the poor sods who dared to win!
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