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| Agreed "new faces and new impetus required for another upward push , time to move to the next chapter of the fax book and not bogged down by the past . The time is right
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| Certainly the club will need new faces with Mark Moore stepping down from his involvement in the club at the end of the season. I know he was not everyones cup of tea and he clearly has not got on with some past and present Board members but he has put a huge number of hours into the club. I think he was involved in everything from sponsorship to sorting out some of the financial problems, so his departure will create a big gap.
Looking forward the Board have difficult job of building on the success of the "best part-timers". Realistically full time is financially beyond us and so is Super League. I would like them to come out withy a clear statement of what the plan is and what they are aiming for not in detail but at headline level. More than anything I want them to balance the books.
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| Quote ="Dbvada"Certainly the club will need new faces with Mark Moore stepping down from his involvement in the club at the end of the season. I know he was not everyones cup of tea and he clearly has not got on with some past and present Board members but he has put a huge number of hours into the club. I think he was involved in everything from sponsorship to sorting out some of the financial problems, so his departure will create a big gap.
Looking forward the Board have difficult job of building on the success of the "best part-timers". Realistically full time is financially beyond us and so is Super League. I would like them to come out withy a clear statement of what the plan is and what they are aiming for not in detail but at headline level. More than anything I want them to balance the books.'"
Who is 'them' though? When MM goes, who does that leave at board level?
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| Why is he leaving ?
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| The current board of directors is listed as Simon Oxby,Paul Haggerty and Christian Lister.
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| Mark terminated his directorship last November ([urlhttps://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/06190029/filing-history[/url), but he's still Chief Exec ([urlhttps://www.halifaxrlfc.co.uk/our_club/contact_us[/url). From what I heard he was always planning to leave at the end of this season.
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| Mark has done a huge amount of work at the club over the last couple of years as a director and Chief Exec and the club owe him a huge debt of gratitude. I just hope the new board realise what he has done for the club, and have someone lined up to fill that gap that will help inevitably appear when he does leave.
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| Can anyone fathom out what Christian lister actually does work wise away from the club . I never understood a word of the MM introduction which sounded total bull. I couldn't pick out what was his skill area. Finance?
Strange really in today's world where you can usually get a decent clue about someone via the Internet. Ref MM yes you can almost feel he has left and the daily grip has reduced. Agree that his position will take some filling . The post about the club accounts from fuzzy duck concerned me slightly because there is usually a reason for delay.on such matters which may be something or absolutely nothing of any significance
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| Quote ="jensenFF"Can anyone fathom out what Christian lister actually does work wise away from the club . I never understood a word of the MM introduction which sounded total bull. I couldn't pick out what was his skill area. Finance?
Strange really in today's world where you can usually get a decent clue about someone via the Internet. Ref MM yes you can almost feel he has left and the daily grip has reduced. Agree that his position will take some filling . The post about the club accounts from fuzzy duck concerned me slightly because there is usually a reason for delay.on such matters which may be something or absolutely nothing of any significance'"
Loads of info about him on the web if you want to do a bit of digging. Can't find anything bad though for anyone who is wondering or wants to have a moan.
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If you are concerned you might be better contacting the club......
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If you are concerned you might be better contacting the club......
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| INOUT Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"If you are concerned you might be better contacting the club......'"
I'd rather the club be open with fans. I might buy a season ticket then.
GOD. With that attitude, you'll never grow the fan base
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| Quote ="jeffvickers"INOUTI'd rather the club be open with fans. I might buy a season ticket then.
GOD. With that attitude, you'll never grow the fan base'"
Open about what?
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| I've no idea why you're rolling your eyes and shrugging your shoulders at me, Boots, all I'm doing is revealing on a forum that Fax haven't filed the accounts and I think fans have a right to know. Why is my observation upsetting you so much? Are you the Fax accountant responsible for such slackness? Or is it because somebody other than yourself has noticed and you don't like it? Why are you protecting such incompetence? Eh?
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| I have been passed this to post, to answer your query and to stop unnecessary speculation.
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Dear faxfans.co.uk thread “Well done Fax”,
The Board was made aware this afternoon of post within this thread regarding the year end accounts and I would like to take a moment of your time to explain the planned delay.
As you will be aware the RFL metrics for ROI change after the 8s fixtures and due to this change, the board and I took the decision to accept a late penalty which we will personally pay because of the financial structural changes the club requires to meet its new obligations – we are as an example; completing 2 year ends in tandem along with substantial fiscal forecasting which (a) is a RFL requirement (b) meets the new ROI metrics and (c) provides the board and stakeholders with a longer term view. I personally agreed this format with the BoD, our staff, stakeholders and the accountants who needed to prepare the documents, who are working diligently to a tight schedule.
I wish, we had 9 months to prepare the 2nd set of ROI metrics but the RFL only gave the Championship and League 1 clubs the revised EBITDA formula for ROI, 6/7 weeks ago.
I hope this brief update helps.
Best wishes and on behalf of the Halifax RLFC board,
Christian”
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| Quote ="Fuzzy Duck"I've no idea why you're rolling your eyes and shrugging your shoulders at me, Boots, all I'm doing is revealing on a forum that Fax haven't filed the accounts and I think fans have a right to know. Why is my observation upsetting you so much? Are you the Fax accountant responsible for such slackness? Or is it because somebody other than yourself has noticed and you don't like it? Why are you protecting such incompetence? Eh?'"
So turns out there was a reason and turns out the club were quite open about it once contacted. Yourself and Jeff will have to wait another day for the clubs demise.
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| Many thanks Halifax1873 for clarification.
Boots - If I hadn't posted what I had, then such clarification would not have been received, so get off your high self opinionated horse!
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| Thanks Christian . The questions contained no malice just supporters interested in the club and its future.particularly if you are performing the accounts and CEO roles Greg Florimo is clearly very sensitive about this years accounts for some reason maybe because they might show a marked improvement in certain areas? Well spotted Fuzzy duck I await your assessment of the accounts when they land .
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"There could be all sorts of reasons for that to be fair.'"
Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"You have experience of filing accounts then? No chance it could be Companies House late to update?'"
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Quote ="jensenFF"Thanks Christian . The questions contained no malice just supporters interested in the club and its future.particularly if you are performing the accounts and CEO roles Greg Florimo is clearly very sensitive about this years accounts for some reason maybe because they might show a marked improvement in certain areas? Well spotted Fuzzy duck I await your assessment of the accounts when they land .'"
Hardly very sensitive am I? Stating a fact, asking a question, and then suggesting a way to get an answer.
I would expect the accounts to show pretty much what they have shown for a number of years, that the club gets by on the skin of its teeth with Directors and fans covering any shortfalls which occur. Nothing out of the ordinary for any RL team. Sadly this year may be the last time that it happens as we as a game start to put the final nails in to the coffins of the lower league teams.
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I think that the new accounts show that someone probably has converted money he had provided in support to shares, given that Mr Steele was allocated big number of shares we must assume his generosity was behind this.
Frankly it’s amazing that people are willing to do this and he follows a long line of people from Gartland, Pearson, Posner and even Brooke who have stopped the club vanishing.
I’m no accountant so can someone explain why last years numbers are “restated”. It looks like a lot of debtors have vanished?
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I think that the new accounts show that someone probably has converted money he had provided in support to shares, given that Mr Steele was allocated big number of shares we must assume his generosity was behind this.
Frankly it’s amazing that people are willing to do this and he follows a long line of people from Gartland, Pearson, Posner and even Brooke who have stopped the club vanishing.
I’m no accountant so can someone explain why last years numbers are “restated”. It looks like a lot of debtors have vanished?
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| Quote ="Dbvada"I think that the new accounts show that someone probably has converted money he had provided in support to shares, given that Mr Steele was allocated big number of shares we must assume his generosity was behind this.
Frankly it’s amazing that people are willing to do this and he follows a long line of people from Gartland, Pearson, Posner and even Brooke who have stopped the club vanishing.
I’m no accountant so can someone explain why last years numbers are “restated”. It looks like a lot of debtors have vanished?'"
You could ask at the fans forum the club are arranging. Give you lads a chance to dig out the suits.
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| Quote ="Dbvada"I’m no accountant so can someone explain why last years numbers are “restated”. It looks like a lot of debtors have vanished?'"
Probably because it's the first year of adopting FRS102. Fax lost £7k for the year ended 30/11/17, and if this is based on lower "prize money" for failing to qualify for the Middle 8s in 2016 (the funding is lagged) then that's a brilliant effort. I'd like to know who the £137k "trade debtors" are - the RFL?
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