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| I have to agree with Justthebasicfax. Johnston comes across as wanting to make team selection. He said as much in interview before the Fax game, saying that the players need to put in performances to earn a place in the semi-final.
That is a perfectly fine statement, but only if made by the coach. He is the only chairman in this league that does so much talking.
What if Deakin fails and they continue to lose form?
Would make a great 'fly on the wall' documentary on SKY. like the footy one at Peterborough with Barry Fry.
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| Quote ="Gary High"Even though recent results have been VERY poor ? The new coach has 6 weeks to stamp his authority and try and get the team playing good rugby again. Things had gone stale and we had no plan B.'"
gary even you cant put spin on this one, and the reason clark is still at the club is his community role is with the rfl so dessie cant touch him
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| Quote ="SRC"Don't agree. Des has A LOT to do with where we are today. His contacts, time and money have played a huge part in us gaining promotion and assembling a competitive squad for the Championship.
We have lost 3 of our last 4 league matches and also lost in a final. If our current form continues we could well miss out on a playoff spot.
Hence the change. No meddling - just management.'"
i could understand all that if say millward or a proven SL coach came in
but deakin??
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| Quote ="SRC"Ask Wigan (fans and coaches) how average and workmanlike we are !'"
Like saying ask Cas how average we are. Pointless. Barrow, like Fax, raised their game for a one off match.
Quote ="SRC"We really haven't put in a good 80 mins since we beat Widnes - and that was WEEKS ago.
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Thats because you are an average team playing in a very competitive league.
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| Quote ="haven4ever"i could understand all that if say millward or a proven SL coach came in
but deakin??'"
Oi, Lay off!!!!
He's ours for 3 years!!
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| Quote ="haven4ever"i could understand all that if say millward or a proven SL coach came in
but deakin??'"
Deakin has come in as caretaker for the last 6 games (plus playoffs hopefully).
The proven SL/NRL coach will come for the start of next season
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| Deaks will baffle em with science!!
he might cut out some of the over vigorous stuff though....suspensions aren't helping Barrow.
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| Crackers
Using this logic we would have sacked MC last season having been top and then overtaken by Salford and Celtic.
Had the above happened Fax fans would have been up in arms but Barra fans seem to be quite happy to play along.
I think the Hull City comparison is a sound one. Their expectations have overtaken reality.
Nothing good ever comes from this sort of short term I want it and I want it now mentality
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| Well see, I wish Barrow well. I thought Barrow had played better than anyone expected, very organised and much like Celtic last year
The Chairman needs to Chair, not coach...
Why at half time in our last meeting was he charging over to the changing rooms at half time? thats not the realm of a Chairmen...
I dont see Barrow winning this year though so i fear for the new coach.
Widnes or Fax im afraid, but well done Barrow for making it a very interesting league.
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| Quote ="Snowy"Oi, Lay off!!!!
He's ours for 3 years!!
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Think a mad decision to get a new coach and the players at barrow are just half decent national league players.Clarke has done well with what he has got.
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Well he's hardly talking up the clubs decision. He just comes across as someone who is still involved with club being very diplomatic. Not sure where you're coming from here, he's hardly endorsing Deakin as the next coming!
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Well he's hardly talking up the clubs decision. He just comes across as someone who is still involved with club being very diplomatic. Not sure where you're coming from here, he's hardly endorsing Deakin as the next coming!
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I'm afraid he is a t*sser. The lack of respect he has shown for some clubs this season (see his comments after we stuffed you a few weeks back) confirms this fact.
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I'm afraid he is a t*sser. The lack of respect he has shown for some clubs this season (see his comments after we stuffed you a few weeks back) confirms this fact.
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| i didnt expect to see that but he put his money in got super league players and he expects more than is being given at the minute.
it remains to be seen how things go with the new coach.
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| Clarke should have carried on to the end of the season and then Barrow thought properly about who to bring in. Strange to change things now.
Steve Deakin is a decent coach -but hardly one who is very successful-look at his time at Fax, Oldham and Hudds!
Also Des comes across as a impatient spoilt little kid who thinks his money can buy him whatever he wants. Maybe he is maybe not but certainly I as a player would not want to go there as he seems to demand more than what is realistic. This year Barrow possibly should have aimed for a Play Off Spot then build from that. I wish Barrow well but just the way the Chairman comes across i think they will not be as successful as certain people there want or expect.
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| I think Deakin may have been exagerrating on his CV if he was "in charge" at Halifax, Huddersfield and Rochdale.
He was number 2 to Steve Simms at Fax and to Tony Smith at Huddersfield.
He was coach at Spotland but walked out before the season started to go to Keighley!! - something that saw Martin Hall get the job.....
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| Quote ="The Lucky Black Cat"Clarke should have carried on to the end of the season and then Barrow thought properly about who to bring in. Strange to change things now.
Steve Deakin is a decent coach -but hardly one who is very successful-look at his time at Fax, Oldham and Hudds!
Also Des comes across as a impatient spoilt little kid who thinks his money can buy him whatever he wants. Maybe he is maybe not but certainly I as a player would not want to go there as he seems to demand more than what is realistic. This year Barrow possibly should have aimed for a Play Off Spot then build from that. I wish Barrow well but just the way the Chairman comes across i think they will not be as successful as certain people there want or expect.'"
We will
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Dave's a class act through and through.
But to be fair he still works there so is highly unlikely to come out and publically announce that this is a boll0cks decision and is a huge slap in his face for everything hes done for the club in the past few seasons....
It seems to me as though Mr Johnston has aspirations way way beyond the obtainable..
If you'd offered Barrow 2nd place and a spot in the NRC final before the start of the season they would have torn your hand off, strange that that is no longer good enough...
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Dave's a class act through and through.
But to be fair he still works there so is highly unlikely to come out and publically announce that this is a boll0cks decision and is a huge slap in his face for everything hes done for the club in the past few seasons....
It seems to me as though Mr Johnston has aspirations way way beyond the obtainable..
If you'd offered Barrow 2nd place and a spot in the NRC final before the start of the season they would have torn your hand off, strange that that is no longer good enough...
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| Quote ="Piston Broke"I think Deakin may have been exagerrating on his CV if he was "in charge" at Halifax, Huddersfield and Rochdale.
He was number 2 to Steve Simms at Fax and to Tony Smith at Huddersfield.
He was coach at Spotland but walked out before the season started to go to Keighley!! - something that saw Martin Hall get the job.....'"
I can see Des doing this when he reads your post:
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| Typical reaction of the successful businessman when things are happening that he ' thinks ' should not be
Normal business responce to a problem
But this is sport , not ' normal ' business
This is why our sport drastically underachieves
The people running both the sport and the clubs dont understand what sport is all about
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| am shocked and suprised that a club on the up have made such a daft desision..
why do you sack ya head coach when...youv been in a final already and are in the enviable position of challenging in the league aswell?!
a very strange one,
i think des should get a new toy!!!
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| A coach lives & dies by his results and regardless of past acheivements our results recently have been very poor. The wins we have scraped together have been poor - Dewsbury should have been in the Semi Finals of the NRC, Fev should have been in the final because they worked out our plan A and got in our faces. We had no plan B and never have - That is a coaching error.
The NRC final was a bonus that quite frankly we didn't deserve after those 2 games. Dave Clarke has done very well and has punched above his weight. He is a great servent of the club but sentiments cannot get in the way im afraid. It excites me to know we have a Chairman who demands success despite sometimes appearing to have megalomaniac tendancies. 2nd is nothing in sport !!!
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| Quote ="Gary High"A coach lives & dies by his results and regardless of past acheivements our results recently have been very poor. The wins we have scraped together have been poor - Dewsbury should have been in the Semi Finals of the NRC, Fev should have been in the final because they worked out our plan A and got in our faces. We had no plan B and never have - That is a coaching error.
The NRC final was a bonus that quite frankly we didn't deserve after those 2 games. Dave Clarke has done very well and has punched above his weight. He is a great servent of the club but sentiments cannot get in the way im afraid. It excites me to know we have a Chairman who demands success despite sometimes appearing to have megalomaniac tendancies. 2nd is nothing in sport !!!'"
Looked to me as if he got the best out of some very average players. With the team you have there is no way that you should be second in the league. To me that is good coaching to your chairman thats failure.
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| First off, Clarky wasn't sacked by the Chairman. If he was do you really think he'd stay at the club as assistant. I believe Clarkly realised after the final that he'd done as much as he could with the team hence the stepping down.
While we have been getting some good results our performances have been getting worse (note: worse not better!!). Nixon is our top try scorer yet in the past 6 games he'll be lucky if he's had 6 passes. That's where Clarky came unstuck, once teams had sussed us out he had no ideas on how the change the way we played to get the ball out wide.
Deakin might not be the most exciting coach but hopefully can bring some fresh ideas to help us maintain a place in the play-offs.
Des is a larger than life character and folk outside of Barrow take his comments to literally. I'm sure the players let most of his comments go over their heads, just like most of the supporters do while at the same time admiring him for what he's trying to achieve at Barrow.
See you all in the Grand Final
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