Seen the squad, preparing myself for astons Cheshire Cat grin in the post match interview.

32-16 to Sheffield.

Agree that weekly squad announcements are a complete waste of time, no idea if Douglas and Eden are fit and bringing in a young fullback when that's position we are probably strongest is non sensical. Can only think this means shunting JWH to centre and lining up Keyes to get battered again as replacement hooker. Can't see Keyes looking for a contract extension if he's going to be messed about like this, and very little confidence about the outcome of Sunday's game - although I shall be delighted to be proved wrong.

Yes it does look like Woody will be moved to centre with the young lad from Leeds at fullback unless he could play on the wing. Does that solve the problems we clearly have at centre and in the pack no. Selection wise from that squad i am really struggling to pick a side, after last week's game i would of like to have dropped a number of players but we cant. All i can hope for is we have a big upturn in performance get stuck into Sheffield and you never know.

Why on earth would we move one of the best, if not the best, full backs in the league? We moved Woody around for ages until he found his best position.

Just watched Finns pre match press conference - Douglas a possibilty although I'm not holding my breath - didnt sound as though Eden playing so looks like new DR is being lined up for centre/wing. Our backline does not fill me with confidence.

Just to be clear i do not want Woody at centre i would go with what others have said and put Kav there with Ben Hursey in the second row. Lumb is a fullback but he could play wing or could be a squad filler i just can't see him playing centre.

If Woody is moved to make way for a dr player i've never heard of, i'll give up!

Rumor seems to be it will still be Woody at FB and new DR player on the wing, I know I saw people say Salty had a bit of a mare Sunday but you have to presume if fit he is going to be in the team so the suspicion has to be that Eden is still not fit. Im going for Eden, Douglas, Tibbs, and Campbell as the 4 that miss out with Tibbs or Campbell 18th man.

Edit: Just seen they interviewed Salty after the team was named to the players so it would be a major surprise if he did not play.

Just seen that Jack smith as played for the Rhinos reserves today so he will not be playing either. Also Kieran Hudson played for them too, before you say it Hudd- Shay what a complete and utter shower DR is.

On the face of it very frustrating, but Leeds have a lot of injuries and obviously need to field a team, even in a reserve fixture rather than send players to Halifax. This situation isn't Leeds fault or fault of DR - unfortunately the fault lies with Fax, initially for running with too thin a squad, but then compounding this when you know you have a number of key long term absences not securing some form of loan cover that we can actually rely on. While I'm no lover of DR it can occasionally work to cover a short term unexpected problem but not 2/3 month injuries. Sadly it may well be finances that are dictating how we go on - if that's the case until majority of players are back on the field, I'm not at all confident about our chances against anyone.

Aye!

Presumably nobody will know if Douglas is playing in this game until Tubbs makes the announcement?

Absolutely garbage! Cr*p, no enthusiasm appalling defence, no attacking ideas, no change in kick offs, lack lustre. See how we go next week against Swinton. At least Bradford lost. (Sorry but we always like to see you lose)

It also reflects badly on the team when a young lad on DR from Leeds gets man of the match. Which he did deserve.

Told you we should have played some turnips , this whole debacle is doing my suede in .

Firstly though it galls me to say so thought Sheffield played some excellent rugby but Fax were completely dire. Yes we have been incredibly unlucky with injuries, but as has been said the majority of that team on show today will struggle to beat anyone in our league. While I have some sympathy for Finn inheriting this squad - he needs to show some backbone now, and at least bring back Keyes in place of Widdop. Jouffret was one of only 2 or 3 who emerged with any credit, but he needs the support of another half who offers any sort of threat or he is too easily nullified. To keep Widdop on for 80 minutes, and only give Keyes 20 minutes was ridiculous.
I'm away next week, and the way I felt at the end of the game, I'm actually relieved to be missing Swinton. Who incidentally put 50 points on Dewsbury with a certain Tee Ritson playing for them and scoring a couple of trys!

I've allus been taught that if you can't say owt good about anyone say nowt. So.....

I thought Inman tried. That is the only half good thing I can think of.

Oh and we did bomb a couple chances early on. Oh that's not good is it

Feel for finn come on board think of some form of communication to divert some heat. Preferably from the players who are letting everyone down look in the mirror time for quite a few.

I did not see the game, did not listen to it, and only read what’s on this forum so far. To get billed at home? Completely unacceptable! You can point to the injury list and say Fax are up against it, With all the experience on the field not even a drop goal!
Like others I am not privy to what conversations happen in coach or boardroom, but it seems money has been thrown into the abyss, spending money on players who are not fit and not yet laced a boot in anger and probably is a good earner, a marquee signing who should be able to at least take the team around the park seems to be offering not a lot at present. Like others say this has gone on long enough, Grix was blamed for everything( and his showing this season may have some truth to it), it is said it is not Finn’s team, when I managed a team It was somewhat inherited but you got to deal with the hand you’ve been dealt, if you can’t score then to use a football term park the bus and stop the opposition from scoring, not always pretty and fans will not like it but better than shipping points by the barrow load, build some confidence then maybe go on the counter offensive, Waiting for dry tracks will be too late, Fax will again miss the playoffs and have even less money next time round. Also BoD put your money where you mouth and words were when you took control,
As always if anyone thinks I am wrong bring it on.

I hate to go over old ground but I still think Grix has a lot to do with the position we are in now and obviously I was highly critical of his work when it come to his signings and who he let go and I do think he missed opportunities to improve the squad. Finn is now left with a lot of dead wood that unfortunatley make up the majority of this current team. Injuries to key players has exposed this even more and we are left with a lot of players who might have been good for us a few years back but they are no longer playing at that level or players who are simply not good enough to play week in week out for a Championship team nevermind one that you would think had playoff aspirations.

The Widdop signing was crazy, he might not be on anywhere near as much as some on Facebook are claiming but I think we could bet that he is on enough that we could have signed at the very least a decent centre or prop with the money if not more. I do think Widdop would have looked good for us playing behind a good pack but the reality is what we are putting out at the moment is one of the weakest packs in the division that gets bullied each week so in that sense its a shame that Widdops career will end at Fax in a relegation battle rather than a lot higher up the table.

We tried so hard to score but lacked the quality (not the effort). The entire backline line is League 1 standard and we desperately miss Eden and Crookes. And their front row was miles better, again we're missing Calcot/AOB/Douglas. Painful day yesterday.

Like Fax in Asia, I dont see the games in person, only the highlights but saltonstall, mcomb & tibbs have to be the weakest back 3 in the division. Salty has been a tremendous player but his game means he's chewed up the miles and just doesn't have the same impact but to think we had worthington & arundel only two seasons ago, the succession planning is woeful. Tibbs is a shell of the player he was a season or so ago. I genuinely thought he has / had all the attributes. McComb is not a centre. However, at the end of the day, there is enough quality in that team to compete and beat Sheffield. What worries me is that such performances emerge during the season or the back end when the table takes shape but to not score a point in a game and a half and concede 86 in the 4th & 5th games of the seasons is an absolute capitulation. The only saving grace is its still the first quarter of the seasons but me thinks that whatever systems Finn is trying to implement are not meshing. I mean, does any see any distinct differences? Same as last year? Worse? Likewise, I think you can expect Eden to be play 10-15 games. I think a few people fell asleep on the fact that he played an average of 16-17 games a season at Castleford in the last six, seven seasons.

The more i think about it the writing was on the wall after the second half at bradford then saying that losing to Oldham

I agree with most of what as already been said. A few weeks back when i said we look more like fighting relegation than getting in the playoffs well nothing i have seen since as changed my mind. I see Dewsbury and Whitehaven as the most likely as things stand to be at the bottom and us just slightly better. It will help when we get Douglass O'brien and Eden back but like as been said Eden is injury prone so how many games we get out of him will be interesting. I do not know if anyone as heard anything regarding Crooks injury situation i was told he needs a op and will miss the rest of the season if true that will be a big blow with him being our only centre.

A mistake i think the board made last year when Grix said he was leaving was asking him which of the current players should stay or go. This is not me having a go at Simon he was asked for his opinion and gave it even if i disagree with it. It was up to the board to leave it to Finn who they knew was going to be the next coach pretty quickly to make these calls. If he would of made the same decisions then this years squad is on him which he as already stated that even with our first choice front row missing that he would back our pack against any in the league, and when asked about new signings he backs the players already at the club. So for me we are in a mess can we afford to bring new players in that we desperately need and at the same time can we afford not to. One positive note i was just 400 numbers short on the golden gamble getting closer every home game happy days.