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| Sorry can't resist, 44.29 minutes another two points for Stevie G.
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| Quote ="faxcar"As you stated, crowds are an issue for many clubs in Football / Rugby League and no doubt a lot of other sports.
Also as you stated these figures are for league games only, the managment will have different allowances for other matches such as the cup competitions.
My question is.
If the break even figures are not being achieved in the league after say 11 games does that not mean that the figure for the rest of the campaign has in fact increased?'"
Would be a fair point except that the board made no allowances at all for cup games. We've had two cup games away from home where we shared the gate receipts (combined gate was around 6000) and another cup home game next week. On top of that there's the money we made from advancing to the 1st round of the FA Cup.
Obviously extra travelling costs etc come into play but it could be that the break even figure may have in fact decreased.
Anything else, other than Halifaxjohn's tedium and the usual mudslinging?
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| Quote ="Never_Shay_Die"Fair point if you look at it from that angle, but the break even figure was league games only. The board did not budget for cup games at all. No allowances were made. We've had two cup games away from home where we shared the gate receipts (combined gate was around 6000) and another cup home game next week. On top of that there's the money we made from advancing to the 1st round of the FA Cup.
So from a purely financial point of view it could be argued that the break even figure may have in fact decreased.
Anything else, other than Halifaxjohn's tedium and the usual mudslinging?
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No nothing else except that a "may have" is not a "fact" and it may have increased.
Which means that the "lie" as you called it is not really based on anything other than a "may" or "may not" and may not be a lie at all, just numbers.
The figures are what they are.
The important thing is.
As you stated you were going to leave this forum alone if that issue hadn't been raised.
Now it's sorted out, please honour your own words and leave quietly because you wouldn't want to be caught lying would you.
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| Quote ="faxcar"
Which means that the "lie" as you called it is not really based on anything other than a "may" or "may not" and may not be a lie at all'"
Except that YOU presented it as fact, which was a lie.
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| Quote ="Never_Shay_Die"Except that YOU presented it as fact, which was a lie.
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Wrong again.
I asked a question and didn't present it as anything other than figures so the "YOU" and the fact your still here is a lie.
Now as you promised go quietly.
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| Quote ="faxcar"Wrong again.
I asked a question and didn't present it as anything other than figures so the "YOU" and the fact your still here is a lie:'"
Eeeerrrrrr no wrong thicko. You didn't ask a question originally at all. How about you read what you actually put instead of talking crap.
I said I'd go cos it looked like you hypocritical morons had stopped talking crap about the football club (something you guys never ever ever do of course, you're way above the Neanderthals and bitter Luddites) and The Shay sale.
As long as you cultist clowns are talking crap about the club I love or continue trying to justify the Shay sale through nothing other than your love of the deceitful spin doctor TA I'll still be here.
Sorry to disappoint.
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| Quote ="Never_Shay_Die"Eeeerrrrrr no wrong thicko. You didn't ask a question originally at all. How about you read what you actually put instead of talking crap.
I said I'd go cos it looked like you hypocritical morons had stopped talking crap about the football club (something you guys never ever ever do of course, you're way above the Neanderthals and bitter Luddites) and The Shay sale.
As long as you cultist clowns are talking crap about the club I love or continue trying to justify the Shay sale through nothing other than your love of the deceitful spin doctor TA I'll still be here.
Sorry to disappoint.
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Wrong again.
Show me what I said, you are getting me mixed up with the original poster and using insults which you roundly condemn = hypocritical.
As regards cultists aren't you the one who first said you were following your exalted leader Blubba = hypocritical again.
For the record, if the council keep the Shay it will not be improved upon, nevertheless of the choices.
I don't want the Shay to fall into private hands,however if it was to be sold then TA is just as good as the next person.
Your love for Town is actually so misdirected and embittered by your hatred of everyone and everything else connected to the Shay as to undermine any potential good you could be doing.
It's actually embarrassing, I would really keep quiet.
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| Quote ="faxcar"Wrong again.
Show me what I said, you are getting me mixed up with the original poster and using insults which you roundly condemn = hypocritical.
As regards cultists aren't you the one who first said you were following your exalted leader Blubba = hypocritical again.
For the record, if the council keep the Shay it will not be improved upon, nevertheless of the choices.
I don't want the Shay to fall into private hands,however if it was to be sold then TA is just as good as the next person.
Your love for Town is actually so misdirected and embittered by your hatred of everyone and everything else connected to the Shay as to undermine any potential good you could be doing.
It's actually embarrassing, I would really keep quiet.
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You're right, I was getting mixed up with the original poster. Who had in fact posted a lie. Which was my original point.
Nope, I don't condemn insults at all. You guys do though in a desperate bid to claim a moral high ground on the football fans, yet post as much drivel and throw as much mud yourselves. THAT's hypocritical.
Glad we agree re: private ownership. As for the Bubba comment - sarcasm is lost in the world of peanut hugging clearly. However my position on private ownership has not changed in my life so I'm not being hypocritical at all. Most HRLFC fans however...
Loving the moral high ground with your last two paragraphs too!! Some of the crap I've read on here and read/heard from rugby fans throughout the last 2-3 months has been laughable, with clear bitterness that the football fans did not bow down to your supreme leader TA, with insults and childish mudslinging galore.
I will admit that after the history between the clubs, starting with the Thrum Hall funds fiasco and cumulating with the latest friction between the clubs over the sale of The Shay, I have little time for your club. But by pleading 'bitterness' every time you hear something you don't like you just sound like a set or morons.
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| Quote ="Never_Shay_Die"
I will admit that after the history between the clubs, starting with the Thrum Hall funds fiasco'"
Why does this bother you so much? What's your knowledge of the situation and the impact it had on your club?
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| Quote ="a.n Other"Why does this bother you so much? What's your knowledge of the situation and the impact it had on your club?'"
I am NOT dragging that up. Sorry. You know damn well what the issues were.
I know some of you will say "Oooooooooh it's because he doesn't know" like a set of old women. But the fact is it will simply open up another can of worms which I really can't be bothered with.
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Quote ="Never_Shay_Die"You're right, I was getting mixed up with the original poster. Who had in fact posted a lie. Which was my original point.
Nope, I don't =#0000FFcondemn insults at all. You guys do though in a desperate bid to claim a moral high ground on the football fans, yet post as much drivel and throw as much mud yourselves. THAT's hypocritical.
Glad we agree re: private ownership. As for the Bubba comment - sarcasm is lost in the world of peanut hugging clearly. However my position on private ownership has not changed in my life so I'm not being hypocritical at all. Most HRLFC fans however...
Loving the moral high ground with your last two paragraphs too!! Some of the crap I've read on here and read/heard from rugby fans throughout the last 2-3 months has been laughable, with clear bitterness that the football fans did not bow down to your supreme leader TA, with insults and childish mudslinging galore.
I will admit that after the history between the clubs, starting with the Thrum Hall funds fiasco and cumulating with the latest friction between the clubs over the sale of The Shay, I have little time for your club. But by pleading 'bitterness' every time you hear something you don't like you just sound like a set or morons.
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Condone?
Actually your right in one of your posts to me, it is getting tedious, every time we cast our rods we come back with the same flounder, it's not sport anymore.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0k0z_V0iuc
Prefer Bob Dylan's version.
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Quote ="Never_Shay_Die"You're right, I was getting mixed up with the original poster. Who had in fact posted a lie. Which was my original point.
Nope, I don't =#0000FFcondemn insults at all. You guys do though in a desperate bid to claim a moral high ground on the football fans, yet post as much drivel and throw as much mud yourselves. THAT's hypocritical.
Glad we agree re: private ownership. As for the Bubba comment - sarcasm is lost in the world of peanut hugging clearly. However my position on private ownership has not changed in my life so I'm not being hypocritical at all. Most HRLFC fans however...
Loving the moral high ground with your last two paragraphs too!! Some of the crap I've read on here and read/heard from rugby fans throughout the last 2-3 months has been laughable, with clear bitterness that the football fans did not bow down to your supreme leader TA, with insults and childish mudslinging galore.
I will admit that after the history between the clubs, starting with the Thrum Hall funds fiasco and cumulating with the latest friction between the clubs over the sale of The Shay, I have little time for your club. But by pleading 'bitterness' every time you hear something you don't like you just sound like a set or morons.
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Condone?
Actually your right in one of your posts to me, it is getting tedious, every time we cast our rods we come back with the same flounder, it's not sport anymore.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0k0z_V0iuc
Prefer Bob Dylan's version.
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| Quote ="Fax Machine"Christ! Can't SG and NSD just do one (or preferably two).
They really are getting boring now. Our BOD seem to be well on with preparing for the new season, have already launched the new shirt which carries record sponsorship and have signed some very promising players. We certainly don't look like a club "in crisis". Unlike FCHT fans I do not believe that we need constant access to the accounts. It is not our business and it is certainly none of FCHT's business. Why are they so interested? I'm not the slightest bit interested in their affairs. I go to the Shay to watch Rugby League not stare at a set of accounts. As to the outstanding rent, it has been announced that the club have reached agreement with CMBC on a scheduled repayment. That is between Halifax RLFC and THEIR LANDLORDS. They do not have to inform FCHT or it's cohorts.'"
Bradford Bulls did not look like a club in crisis either, Both clubs need each other, the shay is not viable with one club so it is 'FCHTs Business'. The Landlords' are a public accountable body, so yes they should inform the public.
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| Quote ="Never_Shay_Die"You're right, I was getting mixed up with the original poster. Who had in fact posted a lie. Which was my original point.
Nope, I don't condemn insults at all. You guys do though in a desperate bid to claim a moral high ground on the football fans, yet post as much drivel and throw as much mud yourselves. THAT's hypocritical.
Glad we agree re: private ownership. As for the Bubba comment - sarcasm is lost in the world of peanut hugging clearly. However my position on private ownership has not changed in my life so I'm not being hypocritical at all. Most HRLFC fans however...
Loving the moral high ground with your last two paragraphs too!! Some of the crap I've read on here and read/heard from rugby fans throughout the last 2-3 months has been laughable, with clear bitterness that the football fans did not bow down to your supreme leader TA, with insults and childish mudslinging galore.
I will admit that after the history between the clubs, starting with the Thrum Hall funds fiasco and cumulating with the latest friction between the clubs over the sale of The Shay, I have little time for your club. But by pleading 'bitterness' every time you hear something you don't like you just sound like a set or morons.
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So even when you are wrong as admitted by yourself you still throw up more insults, by doing so you step off any moral ground.
How hard is it for you to understand what actually happened, a discussion was held between the council and TA which led to an offer being put in for the Shay and which has subsequently been rejected.
What happens next as even the Town BOD said we don't know.
The onslaught from a small minority of Town is well documented and went beyond petitioning or persuading the council to think again and you can't keep that quiet or.
We know what was done and by whom it was done.
It involved and still involves personal attacks on TA and his young family, these actions which started with Town fans is real moronic behaviour.
These actions alone were what led to many Fax fans and other people giving support to him as a person, it had nothing to do with the sale of the Shay which became a side issue.
This is a world apart from blindly following or bowing down to him as you keep saying concerning his bid for the Shay but if that thinking feeds your set appetite, keep eating yourself up.
It's all in your mind and at end of the day you have to live with yourself.
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| I'm planning on a joint club carol singing extravaganza this year.
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| Quote ="littlerich"I'm planning on a joint club carol singing extravaganza this year.
Who's with me?'"
Will people be allowed to throw flares?
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| Quote ="littlerich"I'm planning on a joint club carol singing extravaganza this year.
Who's with me?'"
Bubberites to bring the clubs?
I,l bring Carol.
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| Quote ="halifaxjohn"Bubberites to bring the clubs?
I,l bring Carol.
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If it's snowing i'll bring a pizza for Good King Wenceslas.
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| Quote ="charlie k"Bradford Bulls did not look like a club in crisis either, Both clubs need each other, the shay is not viable with one club so it is 'FCHTs Business'. The Landlords' are a public accountable body, so yes they should inform the public.'"
No, they don't need to inform the public about every piece of business they enact. Should you wish to ask them for specific information they have a duty to provide it. That is a different thing altogether.
Go ahead, put in yet another FOI request if you wish. I'm surprised the council can get anything done what with replying to FOI's from FCHT fans but, hey, it gives you all a raison d'etre which you otherwise wouldn't have.
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| Quote ="faxcar"If it's snowing i'll bring a pizza for Good King Wenceslas.
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