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| Thought it would be much closer today. Good game with some pedantic reffing either way.
I'd heard a lot of good things about your fullback, but his defence on 2 of our tries was truly woeful!
As you say, I think we were far more up for this tonight, see you in the playoffs! (and/or Blackpool)
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| Fieldhouse - 3 Not his best game!
Worrincy - 3 Just wasted and feel for the guy as he just is never given any decent ball and looks to have no confidence in attack.
Tyrer - 4 Just come back from 2 months out so would be rusty.
Paterson - 3 Again just doesnt seem the player who thrived under Calland
Reittie - 3 Not a winger for me. Hasnt got the X factor a winger should ghave like Rob and Whitey have. No idea why White was dropped for Reittie.
Handforth - 3 Dont rate him at all. Has a decent kicking game sometimes, but creates little and just lazy most of the time.
Thackery - 2 God knows what RHino sees in him! Offers very little. Cant create except for himself. Might as well not played tonight.
Hesketh - 3 another who has been a let down this season and again this game showed it.
Penky - 6 Our attacking creative man. Without him we are buggered in attack. Again doesnt look happy for me playing this season.
Ambler - 6 Local lad who always shows pride in the shirt and gives 100%
Manning - 3 Disappointing. Never got in the game at all
Robinson - 5 Good signing and tried tonight but wasnt up to his usual standards.
Barlow - 6 MoM for me. Like Anmbler always gives 100% but why is nobody supporting him when he offloads?
Ashall - 3 Another below par performance. Just wasnt there again tonight
Aizue 5 good running an offloads but not given enough support.
Bowman 3 Cant say I have ever thought he looks class and tonight another below average showing. Cant help being stuck on the bench or second team though
Gannon - 4 Too old really and gives silly penalties away. OK in defence but doesnt break the tackles or create
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| Quote ="FFA"Quote ="fax_insider"Don't agree with the Bowman statement. I think he's got the ability to be a top player but he's not going to be if he's not getting played regularly is he?'"
Just can't see what he's good at really; not quick, not especially good with the ball, not a great kicker and doesn't have the right attitude. Will never play at a better standard than this imo'"
I can see where you are coming from I just believe he has the potential to be good. Glimmers of a good player sometimes shine through, which would come together more frequently if he was given a run in.
Can't get any worse than what our current half backs are offering. I don't like to slag players off on forum's but either Halifax have been blessed with the cream of the crop of the years with half backs or these are bellow par. You decide.
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| Worst performance of the season by far tonight, absolutely shocking and i'm even more shocked they only managed to score 24. Barlow, Ambler and Robinson were the only ones who turned up tonight and no-one else wanted it at all! Don't anyone dare blame it on Handforth and Thacks because the whole team - bar those mentioned- was abysmal tonight. Didn't turn up, didn't look interested and didn't close down that prat Finn who we know completely runs their game. Fair play to Fev though, that's the team we've been used to seeing over the past couple years, simple rugby and it's effective.
The only positives is, like Harold said we'd have got absolutely spanked if we'd have played like that last season and also Fev are only 2 points ahead of us. We need a complete switch around for the next game now!
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| Quote ="fax_insider"Don't agree with the Bowman statement. I think he's got the ability to be a top player but he's not going to be if he's not getting played regularly is he?'"
Exactly, when he came on he didn't half get involved and he tried to organise our attack, but unfortunately it fell on death ears. He gets a 40 minutes of rugby every so often which is not enough to really show what he can do. Yes, I know his defence is abit skeptical at times but like some of us know, he's brilliant at creating opportunities and that's something that we seem to be lacking at the moment. Give the lad a chance, a proper chance.
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| Quote ="DARE"Worst performance of the season by far tonight, absolutely shocking and i'm even more shocked they only managed to score 24. Barlow, Ambler and Robinson were the only ones who turned up tonight and no-one else wanted it at all! Don't anyone dare blame it on Handforth and Thacks because the whole team - bar those mentioned- was abysmal tonight. Didn't turn up, didn't look interested and didn't close down that prat Finn who we know completely runs their game. Fair play to Fev though, that's the team we've been used to seeing over the past couple years, simple rugby and it's effective.
The only positives is, like Harold said we'd have got absolutely spanked if we'd have played like that last season and also Fev are only 2 points ahead of us. We need a complete switch around for the next game now!'"
we had plently of ball in their 20 and looked absolutely clueless they didn't create a gap, break, chance between them. When penky doesn't play we don't score tries
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| Quote ="DARE"Exactly, when he came on he didn't half get involved and he tried to organise our attack, but unfortunately it fell on death ears. He gets a 40 minutes of rugby every so often which is not enough to really show what he can do. Yes, I know his defence is abit skeptical at times but like some of us know, he's brilliant at creating opportunities and that's something that we seem to be lacking at the moment. Give the lad a chance, a proper chance.'"
we didn't look more organised at all when he came on our forwards were far more creative than any half back with the odd offload
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| Quote ="Fev08"Thought it would be much closer today. Good game with some pedantic reffing either way.
I'd heard a lot of good things about your fullback, but his defence on 2 of our tries was truly woeful!
As you say, I think we were far more up for this tonight, see you in the playoffs! (and/or Blackpool)'"
Good game???
You are having a laugh, it was poor to watch and yer Fev were miles the better team but it was not a good advert to say thses are supposed to be the top 2 teams in this league, one looked good (Fev) the other looked poor (us).
Looks like there is only one team in this league this year and it aint us.
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| Quote ="FFA"icon_lol.gif we had plently of ball in their 20 and looked absolutely clueless they didn't create a gap, break, chance between them. When penky doesn't play we don't score tries'"
No, they were both poor tonight but so was everyone else. Even if those two had been on form tonight we wouldn't have won.
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| Quote ="FFA"we didn't look more organised at all when he came on our forwards were far more creative than any half back with the odd offload'"
Read it again, I said he tried to organise, he tried to get involved but again like I've said the whole team was poor tonight and Bowman couldn't do anything about that.
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| Quote ="DARE"Read it again, I said he tried to organise, he tried to get involved but again like I've said the whole team was poor tonight and Bowman couldn't do anything about that.'"
Trying to do something isn't really the same as doing something, i just don't think the lad will go further in the game.
Handforth and Thackeray have been found out big time this season in the tough games, the forwards were greatly superior to the backs tonight and that's saying something. They don't bring their 3/4 or second rowers into play, fieldhouse is never put away like royston was, they are both desperately average championship players and we are craving some quality loanee halfbacks from somehwere
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| Quote ="FFA"Trying to do something isn't really the same as doing something, i just don't think the lad will go further in the game.
Handforth and Thackeray have been found out big time this season in the tough games, the forwards were greatly superior to the backs tonight and that's saying something. They don't bring their 3/4 or second rowers into play, fieldhouse is never put away like royston was, they are both desperately average championship players and we are craving some quality loanee halfbacks from somehwere'"
Spot on that it must have been hugely disappointing for the hard working forwards especially Robinson, Barlow and Aizue who tried their best but we were so predictable that Fev just picked them off knowing it was going to them and not been spun out wide. Thacks just aint good enough come on he was at a poor York team last season why did we sign a player who was playing for a team that were nearly relegated , he hardly hit the headlines there did he???
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| When Thackeray was replaced by Bowman, its as though the rest of the team don't want him involved in any of the attacking plays and tend to switch the ball the other way. There are always cliques at clubs and unfortunately, I don't think young Bowman is part of that clique. In a part time training regime, I think Handforth & Thackeray are more involved in practice. If he'd stayed on the books at Wigan in a full time environment, I do believe he'd be a better player than he is now. Personally, he needs regular game time. I'd send him on loan for the season to a lower league team & bring in another up and coming half back on loan from an SL side. If Bowman stays here, he will just stagnate & will end back up Siddal next year.
It showed tonight though how highly I rate Daryl Powell as a coach. A bog standard team on paper, but a bloody good team together with a never say die attitude & know how to snuff out any potential attacking threat. They will be league leaders this year. Guaranteed.
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| Quote ="jeffvickers"When Thackeray was replaced by Bowman, its as though the rest of the team don't want him involved in any of the attacking plays and tend to switch the ball the other way. There are always cliques at clubs and unfortunately, I don't think young Bowman is part of that clique. In a part time training regime, I think Handforth & Thackeray are more involved in practice. If he'd stayed on the books at Wigan in a full time environment, I do believe he'd be a better player than he is now. Personally, he needs regular game time. I'd send him on loan for the season to a lower league team & bring in another up and coming half back on loan from an SL side. If Bowman stays here, he will just stagnate & will end back up Siddal next year.
It showed tonight though how highly I rate Daryl Powell as a coach. A bog standard team on paper, but a bloody good team together with a never say die attitude & know how to snuff out any potential attacking threat. They will be league leaders this year. Guaranteed.'"
Agree about Bowman but not about Fev they are a very good team on paper look again and they have the best half back in our league by miles in baldy boy Finn. Although we never tried to get to him all night we gave him acres of space, maybe once we did but agree they have a good coach, how are they affording all this I often wonder???
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| Quote ="Fax4Life"Agree about Bowman but not about Fev they are a very good team on paper look again and they have the best half back in our league by miles in baldy boy Finn. Although we never tried to get to him all night we gave him acres of space, maybe once we did but agree they have a good coach, how are they affording all this I often wonder???'"
A good BoD and an ability to generate a cracking amount of income from other income streams
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| Quote ="Rotherham Fev Fan"A good BoD and an ability to generate a cracking amount of income from other income streams'"
Shame they won't get their rewards and get in SL, like us and our Board!
It will be a closed shop if Wakey get their ground sorted as I doubt they would dare relegate Cas cos well they are Cas!
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| Quote ="Fax4Life"[uShame they won't get their rewards and get in SL, like us and our Board![/u
It will be a closed shop if Wakey get their ground sorted as I doubt they would dare relegate Cas cos well they are Cas!'"
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| Quote ="DARE"Something you're not telling us?'"
No its just that I have always said that the Fat Controller has his favourites and if your face don't fit you will never get into SL plus I don't think they have the bottle to relegate anybody!
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| Absolutely no suprise to me at all that is how good Fev are as a team and the biggest challenge for them at this point in time and in the run in to the end of the season will come from within maintaing this level.
Fax have been not firing in the last few games but getting the results and the biggest challenge for us now is how we react.
Sheffield next week will be a good indicator because they will be licking there lips to feed off the damage done by Fev.
It will show what character is in the team.
Watch this space with interest for the answers.
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| Quote ="The Lucky Black Cat"I just dont understand it. Even at amateur level, we teach teams to have 2 or 3 runners and running angles and not just straight! As usual Barlow and Ambler set a good platform but the creative side is missing. Thackray is a waste and Handforth apart from his kicking game also offers little. Its often left to Penky to provide the spark. The team play boring Rugby and dont seem to be any better than under Calland.
In defence there is NO line speed as we just seem to jog up to make a tackle while Fev sprinted to make the tackles. Where is the enthuiasm and speed to smash the attackers? In attack we are woeful and the backline is just not used properly. Worrincy and White are just wasted for me. They used to score loads of tries but I believe Thackray is our top try scorer which says it all. At Dewsbury we played in 1st gear and this week was not much better. I know we have injuries but that does not mean we have to be so boring and so slow about things. Come on Fax waken up or we will be out the cup next week and be struggling to make the grand final.'"
Bloody Helll thought our fans were bad when we lose. You wernt that bad and it was a cracking intreguing game to watch
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| Quote ="gingdong"Bloody Helll thought our fans were bad when we lose. You wernt that bad and it was a cracking intreguing game to watch'"
It was not a good game sorry, we NEVER looked like getting it back after you got that 12 point lead on us, we were flat and lacked ideas you picked us off and deserved the win but as a RL fan not just Fax fan it was not entertaning (no sour grapes just stating the facts).
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| Quote ="Waddy-Fax"After each tackle and big hit the fev players acted like they had won super league, they were up for it, how come we werent.
Ive been slightly concerned about us for a while now, we dont beat any decent teams and struggle against so called mid table or lower table teams.
Harrisons blow out on tv doenst fill me with confidence either and I dont even know what our best team is, whats with all the swapping of the wingers, players need game time.
We have zero creativity apart from penky, zero go forward apart from barlow and ambler and apart from fieldhouse who himself was quiet tonight our backs are non existent, patterson last made a break in 2009.
Fevs lines speed in defence was excellent, our lot just waited for the man to come to them in defence.
We look uncoached if im being honest.'"
Dont want to slate Harrison i grew up watching him play for Rovers and i reckon if he watches his interview tomorrow he may feel a bit daft. Karl may not like the way the modern game is going but thats the way it is im afraid, youv to move with the times, and for me it didnt stop the excitement of the game at all
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| Quote ="gingdong"Dont want to slate Harrison i grew up watching him play for Rovers and i reckon if he watches his interview tomorrow he may feel a bit daft. Karl may not like the way the modern game is going but thats the way it is im afraid, youv to move with the times, and for me it didnt stop the excitement of the game at all'"
What did he say by the way?
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| Quote ="Fax4Life"What did he say by the way?'"
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| Quote ="gingdong"Dont want to slate Harrison i grew up watching him play for Rovers and i reckon if he watches his interview tomorrow he may feel a bit daft. Karl may not like the way the modern game is going but thats the way it is im afraid, youv to move with the times, and for me it didnt stop the excitement of the game at all'"
Totally agree, KHs blow out on Prem Sports was totally misguided.
He basically admitted that DP was a step ahead by playing more effectively to offficials.
Dave Woods was bang on, "forget about the wrestle and slow PTB what about the lack of pushing the ball instead of one out rugby"
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