Oi! i thought we all agreed to blame Shayfax!

ShayFax was in the book depository but you were stood on the grassy knoll

You can't seriously be saying I am to blame for all of this debarcle?



This is no fault of mine...

He was down to play again today.

Surely the RFL would have noticed eventually.

Still, on the other hand .......

your not on MC's xmas list but you are now on VMs

No mate, was joking.

From now on known as the Notorious ShayFax.

Could have emailed the club rather than wondering aloud on here. But then you were probably justified in presuming the club were in the right.

Despite ShayFax's post leaving the club in hot water and probably costing us many thousands of pounds, they bear no moral responsibility for this.

It is the clubs fault.

I was only messing too - not a chance that you're accountable whatsoever. In fact - better it came out now than further down the line with the financial stakes being even higher. I'm surprised no-one else picked up on it from the 16th April onwards.

If I remember correctly...

Ben Seru played for The Army in the Challenge Cup 2/3 years back in the 3rd Round against Oldham.

He was then signed by Oldham and he played in their 4th round tie against Wakefiled against Belle Vue.

How is this allowed?

I'll try and find some evidence.

Until the Hull fiasco, there weren't actually any written laws for punishment regarding ineligible players except a fine. That is why Hull couldn't be expelled.

I would expect the army aren't a member club therefore rule B4:12 would now apply in the future.

B4:12 A player who plays for a Non Member Club in the Cup cannot in the same Season play for
another Non Member Club in the Cup. A player who has played for a Non Member Club in the
Cup may play for a Member Club in a later round or rounds of the Cup provided that he is on
the Register of that Club at the time set out in B4:9 above.

There's a sub-rule about signing from non-member clubs (The Army). Basically, if they've played for a non-member club in a previous round they can then play for a member club in a later round.

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Surely worth a punt though?

The best argument that Halifax can take to the RFL is Rule B4:8

B4:8 In respect of any Club playing in any Round of the Cup up to and including Round 5, only
players who are correctly registered and eligible to play for that Club under the Rules of the
Competition in which that Club usually competes are eligible to play for that Club in a Cup
Tie.

Under Championship rules Ostick is eligible to play for them in the League, so this badly worded rule above might actually be argued upon as it doesn't directly relate to Rule B4:10. Where Rule B4:9 which deals with the quarter finals and beyond, does stipulate that B4:10 must be adhered too. That's how I would argue the point.

Stop trying to wriggle out of it and take your punishment like the naughty schoolboys you are!

Seriously though, feel for the fans on this one. Hope there is a speedy resolution to all this and the club can get back on an even keel soon as. It is a horrendous oversight but not a unique one, as someone has already posted, it may be that it acts as a catalyst for some of the changes the fans have been asking for.

Good luck and see yous next week.

I don't see any hope of getting out of it. The rules are there in black and white. I think our challenge cup run is over and Swintons has just started again.

Rules are rules. The RFL would find it a hell of a lot easier to explain us being thrown out of the competition than allowing us to continue. One complaint from Swinton and I'ts impossible to come up with another conclusion

No matter what the decision the RFL make, this shows just how inept and clueless Martin Hall and Matt Calland are. Martin make the signings (probably scouted ostick during rochdale cup match against lenizign(spelling)) and Matt for picking him. It was not as if it was a first round match they may have forgotten about. Ostick himself should have said something or is he just as thick as the two in charge.

Heads MUST roll for this. This is not the time for excuses! Act swiftly and Rfl may look on the club in a better light

Calland

Hall

Maybe the two leaders forgot because they were Pi$$ed

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Rules have changed since then anyroad after the Thackeray debacle.

In the long run, I think you've done 'Fax a favour Shay as if they'd continued in the competition and Ostick had played more and more games as an ineligible player then the fine would be huge compared to what I'd expect them to get at this stage.

ShayFax has got you thrown out of the cup and your coach suspended and may still involve a fine at some stage. Fans do have influence afterall





Only joking mate you have done nothing wrong.

your email really phucked us!

pity championship fans cannot influence RFL more and do away with franchises.