Here's something to stir up the hornet's nest. I actually think the RFL have done a decent job in creating the environment under which the most competitive season in living memory has just been played out. A lot of this must be to do with the bonus point, the salary cap and assisting new clubs.

There. Said it.

Ooooooh, you're gonna get castigated for that

Yer see your point but we need to win it hopefully as it gives you more prestige and keep that winning habit as it increases your support (fact).
If we can keep getting to the GF and win the NRC it stops our competitors from 'ticking the box' - thats the teams like Fev and Toulouse who have only got 2 more years to do it.
Be ruthless is my motto - lok at the team we all hate Man U, do they care about oh its only another title when they won the Premieship yet again? No.

I am going to agree with you part way, with the exception of the farce that is called the bonus point.....

Leave the room and come back when you can behave.

Castrated more like

I'm with you there MR.Fruit & veg man. This season has been outrageously exciting and to add to the skill levels of the players just everyone note the goal kicking stats for the last two weekends play off games:
Barrow v Fax 100 % both kickers.
Widnes v Fev 100 % both kickers.
Fax v Fev 100 % both kickers.
All this in the most important games of the whole season when the pressure is on.

hmm after noticing this thread before I had a thought when I was out walking the dog.
Why not give the second of the leagues 'ticked boxes' to the league winners outright. I reckon that demonstrates a better qualifier.
I understand why theyve gone for the finalists, after all they want as many applications as possible and if you're runner up you're not exactly far off the pace.

Better still, why not promote the League Winner and if there is a 2nd SL place up for grabs, THEN have the Play Offs and leave the League Winner out of it (as they already have the promotion) and give that 2nd place to the Play Off winners.

Simplz

best thing fax can do is win the championship 3 years running, showing we are the best team outside super league! With our up to date stadium and prize money to strengthen the squad at all levels. The box is ticked so lets show the rfl why we should be in super league!

Unfortunately, as nice as that might be, that would still leave 9 other possible contenders. 2 x NR Cup places x 3 years, and 1 x Grand Final Runner Up places x 3 years. Add to that the RFLs ability to change the rules as and when they want, and all it adds up to is giving the club a much needed boost in the local area.

The RFL will decide who's going up, make no mistake about it!

The licence bids have to be in halfway through 2011 so its only this season and next that counts really. And you have to win the NR cup to be able to bid.

No you don't, do you ?

Yes.

When will the day come when traditional s/l relegation, promotion returns?

The day when super league clubs stop voting on licencing and look to introduce promotion and relegation and share out the sky money for the good of the many rather than the few.

So, er, never then

Think that post means getting in the final isn't enough, not that a club has to win it to apply.

You lot simply arent good enough in that league. We all saw what happened to Celtic and they were far superior to you lot

Were they though? They did have a lot of help getting there. You'll soon be crying when the RFL change the rules for them and they end up finishing above your club. Don't pretend you wont

Maybe, I doubt it.
Halifax's biggest problem is the lack of western clubs.
Only Wire/Saints/Wigan/Salford, the latter I reckon will be dropped.
I dont think H'fax really will come in until either wakey/cas get dropped or its a 16 team league plus

Couldnt really care to be honest. You're welcome to the boring predictable fair that is super dooper league these days. Only 4,000 at the giants dragons play off can't be wrong. Great times for the sport as the RFL cripple it all levels.

Off you trot back to super league land - and remember, i warned you about getting upset when the RFL change the rules for celtic and they do better than your club, won't be so cosy then will it

Do you seriously think we would have exactly the same squad if we were given a license in 2 years time?



Not only that, but we've seen steady improvements in the off field progress of the club in the last 4 years, and if the improvements continue up to the point of entering SL, then we'll compete against certainly the mid table clubs.

Winning the GF is crucial to the club to attract some decent financial support to the club. Putting us in the Spot Light could just attract that Sugar Daddy we've been lacking for a while.

I think you should take a look at the results that year before you make such a stupid statement - see who Celtic Crusaders lost to, yer not us but they were not that great.
They also had a bunch of palyers who should not have been here, remember that by any chnace???
Morally wrong but cos its an 'expansion club' its all okay, just make sure the fans of the game of RL all their life, like me, don't go around saying the truth eh???

How did Fax vote on this prior to relegation??

as always, clubs seek to look after themselves. The SL clubs do it now and will continue to do so. I would love a return to two up two down from two divisions, but it will never happen! The fact is that sl clubs budgets ae too reliant upon the sky money. The only way things would change is if sky did "an ITV digital" and went under! that may level the playing field, but it would certainly lead to losing a good number of clubs.

My advice to fax, is keep doing what you are doing, on and off the pitch. Be financially sound and transparent, and finish the ground. If you keep winning, have no money probs and the ground is done, you will be a shoe in. there is no other club in the national leagues (except possibly Widnes) who could fill the criteria like you do!

Toulouse wont get a sniff! The SL are realising slowly that the novelty of shipping fans, club officials and game officials every fortnight is wearing off! When Catalans play by the same rules as every other club they wont be as good, and the expected improvements in the french national side havent happened.

Yep agree with that.