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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"How much of the 150K is directors loans? How is that split per Director? How much does the club owe the taxman?
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Do you know?
Where is the figure of 150k coming from? That's new. Which club are you referring to?
We we're £170k in the black at last accounts (that's NET e.g. after tax liabilities etc). The rugby were £250k in the red (again NET), plus the £60k owed to the council for rent is not in dispute.
I'm not saying I know all the answers, only the facts of which I am aware. But your ignorance to the matter is alarming. You should be asking your club these questions rather than burying your head in the sand.
Perhaps it's because you hate your club so much that you really don't care.
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| Quote ="Fax Machine"You're 200 million pounds in the black? That's unbelievable.
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Remember NSD only sticks to the facts as he knows them.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"icon_lol.gif Remember NSD only sticks to the facts as he knows them.'"
So he knows that he is a little bit thick then. As that seems like a fact.
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| Quote ="Never_Shay_Die"What???? Bitter??? Really???? What's so bitter about my post? Please explain because it seems you fail to understand the meaning of the word.
I'm not bitter at all. It was Fax Machine who posted a comment about our attendances and to which I was replying. It included a downright lie that our target attendance has changed. I'm not sure what the point of his post was other than to try and have a dig at FCHT (despite your fans being 'above' Town fans of course).
I responded with a sensible post about the defecit being recovered through cup games and that crowds are low for both clubs - was that not a fair comment? I then suggested that you might want to consider your own club's financial position.
=#0000FFNothing bitter. Please use the dictionary next time.
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Oxford dictionary
Bitter, A sad little man who can not tell the difference between £200.000 and £200.000k
A moron who goes on to say that we hate our club.
A Luddite who is so far up his own backside that he can't see when he is constantly making a fool of himself.
Bitter. A Beer that men drink.
Enjoy your shandy whilst watching the over paid moronic Wendy Ballers tonight.
No disrespect intended.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"icon_lol.gif Remember =#0000FFNSD only sticks to the facts as he knows them.'"
Nob Shot Down?
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| Quote ="halifaxjohn"
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Bitter, A sad little man who can not tell the difference between £200.000 and £200.000k
A moron who goes on to say that we hate our club.
A Luddite who is so far up his own backside that he can't see when he is constantly making a fool of himself.
Bitter. A Beer that men drink.
Enjoy your shandy whilst watching the over paid moronic Wendy Ballers tonight.
No disrespect intended.
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Nah, pretty sure the dictionary doesn't say that.
Also, my typo was the difference between £200k and £200m. Not £200 and £200k as your decimal point placement suggests. If you're going to pick up on a typo then it makes you look like a bit of a clown when you make one yourself.
Oh and look more insults!!! Yet the rugby fans are 'above' the type of neanderthal behaviour exhibited on the football forum.....
It's all hilariously hypocritical. Which just about sums up you lot in general to be honest.
As for the facts, you're free to obtain a copy of the clubs accounts yourselves. Plus the FOI response from the council is self explanatory.
Keep joking people. Just hope your ignorance and naivety doesn't come back to haunt you cultist hypocrites.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Ok then 250K, how much is Directors loans? How is it split per Director? How much do we owe the taxman?
You seem to have all the answers so feel free to enlighten us.'"
No, but your club and their accounts have the answers surely. Why not request a copy of the accounts for yourselves. It's all there in black and white.
In fact, here's a free link to basic information on Duedil. You may need to create a free account to view it:
[urlhttps://www.duedil.com/company/06190029/halifax-rlfc-trading-ltd[/url
Then, why not seek answers from your club? Oh, sorry, I forgot how much you trust Abbott .
By the way, directors [u loans[/u are not a good thing. I should imagine if your club is relying on significant director's loans to keep running and still posting a loss of £250k then there is clearly a reason to be concerned. Especially when you owe the council £60k on top of that. Worse if you owe the taxman anything as you ask.
Unscramble the following words:
sand the get head out your of
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| Quote ="Never_Shay_Die"No, but your club and their accounts have the answers surely. Why not ask them?
By the way, directors [uloans[/u are not a good thing. I should imagine if your club is relying on significant director's loans to keep running and still posting a loss of £250k then there is clearly a reason to be concerned. Especially if you owe the taxman anything on top of that and the £60k you owe to the council.
Unscramble the following words:
sand the get head out your of'"
Oh Halifax RLFC posted a loss of £250K? Thats a new one.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"How up to date was the FOI response that you keep mentioning? Its just that your quotes seem to be made on an up to date basis.
Should we take this as you just repeating what others have said without you really knowing the facts? If you really knew what you were talking about you would be able to give the directors loans figure pretty much straight away as it is on the accounts that were posted on here. How about the taxman, with your inside information I would have thought you would have at least an idea on this.'"
Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Oh Halifax RLFC posted a loss of £250K? Thats a new one..'"
The latest FOI request was submitted by one of your own fans. He has posted the results on here, once further back on this thread I think and once on the council statement thread. It was up to date as of October 2013. Of course, it could have been paid in the last few weeks. But your club hasn't said anything. Wouldn't you rather know?
I only know what's publicly available at the last accounts. Was rouding it up a little and depends how you define it. Your club had liabilities worth £243k but only £10k in cash and £13k in tangible assets.
I'm not interested in how the loss is made up, but owing over £300k including the rent arrears is a pretty big deal. If you're OK with running at a deficit while relying on directors loans and owing your landlord significant sums then fine. That's your call.
Hope it works out well for you
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Im fine with it but then again I do have some idea how businesses run.
I would be a lot more worried if we owed the tax man a significant amount of money to be honest.
Nest few weeks should be an interesting few in the Shay saga.
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Indeed. And he seems to ignore the fact than any overall debt is actually being reduced year on year with the club posting a small profit. But then again all he interested in is posting facts.
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| Christ! Can't SG and NSD just do one (or preferably two).
They really are getting boring now. Our BOD seem to be well on with preparing for the new season, have already launched the new shirt which carries record sponsorship and have signed some very promising players. We certainly don't look like a club "in crisis". Unlike FCHT fans I do not believe that we need constant access to the accounts. It is not our business and it is certainly none of FCHT's business. Why are they so interested? I'm not the slightest bit interested in their affairs. I go to the Shay to watch Rugby League not stare at a set of accounts. As to the outstanding rent, it has been announced that the club have reached agreement with CMBC on a scheduled repayment. That is between Halifax RLFC and THEIR LANDLORDS. They do not have to inform FCHT or it's cohorts.
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| Yes and strange though it may seem we have a Club shop to sell them out of ,it`s got to be donkeys yrs ago since we relied on trestle tables to sell our shirts on.
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| Quote ="Never_Shay_Die"No, but your club and their accounts have the answers surely. Why not request a copy of the accounts for yourselves. It's all there in black and white.
In fact, here's a free link to basic information on Duedil. You may need to create a free account to view it:
[urlhttps://www.duedil.com/company/06190029/halifax-rlfc-trading-ltd[/url
Then, why not seek answers from your club? Oh, sorry, I forgot how much you trust Abbott .
By the way, directors [uloans[/u are not a good thing. I should imagine if your club is relying on significant director's loans to keep running and still posting a loss of £250k then there is clearly a reason to be concerned. Especially when you owe the council £60k on top of that. Worse if you owe the taxman anything as you ask.
Unscramble the following words:
sand the get head out your of'"
jellyfish.
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| I was all set to leave this forum alone.
However despite your constant claims that you don't care about FCHT's business and that you are 'above' the mudslinging one of you decided to make a point about our attendances, which also included an outright lie that our break even figure has increased.
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| Quote ="johnny freeman fan club"Yes and strange though it may seem we have a Club shop to sell them out of ,it`s got to be donkeys yrs ago since we relied on trestle tables to sell our shirts on.'"
It's hilarious isn't it, a trestle table in the car park, it's like a car boot sale, but then who on earth wants to buy a car boot let alone a AFC Halifax shirt.
As we have said before Malcolm, when running the shop offered to sell Towns products but that offer was refused.
They are so so bitter.
Enter Nob Shot Down.
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| Quote ="Never_Shay_Die"I was all set to leave this forum alone.
However despite your constant claims that you don't care about FCHT's business and that you are 'above' the mudslinging one of you decided to make a point about our attendances, which also included an outright lie that our break even figure has increased.'"
Clutching at at straws, straw man.
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| Quote ="Never_Shay_Die"I was all set to leave this forum alone.
However despite your constant claims that you don't care about FCHT's business and that you are 'above' the mudslinging one of you decided to make a point about our attendances, which also included an outright lie that our break even figure has increased.'"
As you stated, crowds are an issue for many clubs in Football / Rugby League and no doubt a lot of other sports.
Also as you stated these figures are for league games only, the managment will have different allowances for other matches such as the cup competitions.
My question is.
If the break even figures are not being achieved in the league after say 11 games does that not mean that the figure for the rest of the campaign has in fact increased?
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| Quote ="faxcar"As you stated, crowds are an issue for many clubs in Football / Rugby League and no doubt a lot of other sports.
Also as you stated these figures are for league games only, the managment will have different allowances for other matches such as the cup competitions.
My question is.
If the break even figures are not being achieved in the league after say 11 games does that not mean that the figure for the rest of the campaign has in fact increased?'"
Come on faxcar, give the bloke a chance, that's far too complex, just say "by the end of the season will your crowds have been above the breakeven figure or will you have to sell your best two players"
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| O/T watching wendyball for a laugh, Stevie G, can you imagine a grown man reveling in a name like that, has just now, 23.21 minutes into the game hit a tremendous shot from 40 yards, both "line persons" as they call them put their flags up.
2 points,
At least one of the Germans have an Alice Band in their hair and three have got gloves on.
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