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| Quote ="RBear"Serious question.....
Do you think it would ever have come out if this thread hadn't been started?
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Who knows BUT is that the point?
Thread or not, VM or not, this is a schoolboy error of the lowest form and raises some serious issues at our club that need addressing.
one +ve from this will be action taken to make sure it doesn't happen again.
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| Quote ="wereutherein1987?"Who knows BUT is that the point?
one +ve from this will be action taken to make sure it doesn't happen again.'"
I doubt it very much as IMHO both The RFL and Halifax seem to lurch from one crisis to another
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| Where do i come into this? my original email post was a joke, they should make Stanley Gene do community service or something to represent Fax, it wont harm him as he'll still be around in another 100 years.
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| Quote ="fax-boys"Thought it was Swintons job to object and nobody elses ,they didnt and with the amount of ex Fax players in their mist surely Smithy and Watto as coaches new he played for Rochdale and let it go.'"
Why would Smithy and Watto know this. Do you think they sit there after every Cup match to see if the Opposition have any players in there team that should not be playing.
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| Quote ="Tortured Soul"Tried ringing you as soon as I found out.'"
Come on Haighy, tell everyone who let you know first about the game being off and that you wouldn't believe them when they very kindly rang you as soon as they'd found out....!
On the bright side, I found out a full two minutes before I was getting on the M62, so instead got on the M6 and had an enjoyable afternoon at the Crusaders!
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| Well it is a right mess for your club but I cannot understand the criticism of the lad who started this thread.
Never shoot the messenger just because he is telling the truth.
Ostick is clearly at fault for not pointing out to his coach when he was selected for the Swinton game that he had already played for Rochdale in a previous round.
You would not have won the Challenge Cup anyways.
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| Quote ="frankb"Well it is a right mess for your club but I cannot understand the criticism of the lad who started this thread.
Never shoot the messenger just because he is telling the truth.
Ostick is clearly at fault for not pointing out to his coach when he was selected for the Swinton game that he had already played for Rochdale in a previous round.
You would not have won the Challenge Cup anyways.'"
Sack Ostick and it wont happen again, I think not!
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| Quote ="frankb"You would not have won the Challenge Cup anyways.'"
The "Challenge Cup" is irrelevant in all this. The club's reputation is in tatters. The club has just lost a shed load of revenue - not to mention the possibility of having to face a hefty fine. Add to this the long term damage done with regards to attracting a main sponsor for next year. And finally they've let down two thousand mainstay fans - many of whom may just turn their back on the club for good.
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt" got on the M6 and had an enjoyable afternoon at the Crusaders!'"
you did matt, spotted you on the tv at the end of the game
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| Quote ="a.n Other"He played against Swinton for us, so if there was a problem it would have been picked up then.'"
Three posts in and the moment our pants were pulled down........................
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| Quote ="seanfax"you did matt, spotted you on the tv at the end of the game
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I've just had Sky Sports on the phone accusing me of a breach in contract. I told them they weren't paying me enough to stay with them
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| Quote ="littlerich"Three posts in and the moment our pants were pulled down........................
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Oi! i thought we all agreed to blame Shayfax!
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| Quote ="a.n Other"Oi! i though we all agreed to blame Shayfax!
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ShayFax was in the book depository but you were stood on the grassy knoll
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| Quote ="littlerich"ShayFax was in the book depository but you were stood on the grassy knoll
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| Quote ="a.n Other"Oi! i thought we all agreed to blame Shayfax!
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You can't seriously be saying I am to blame for all of this debarcle?
This is no fault of mine...
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| He was down to play again today.
Surely the RFL would have noticed eventually.
Still, on the other hand .......
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| Quote ="ShayFax"You can't seriously be saying I am to blame for all of this debarcle?
This is no fault of mine...'"
your not on MC's xmas list but you are now on VMs
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| Quote ="ShayFax"You can't seriously be saying I am to blame for all of this debarcle?
This is no fault of mine...'"
No mate, was joking.
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| Quote ="The Notorious ShayFax"You can't seriously be saying I am to blame for all of this debarcle?
This is no fault of mine...'"
From now on known as the Notorious ShayFax.
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| Quote ="ShayFax"You can't seriously be saying I am to blame for all of this debarcle?
This is no fault of mine...'"
Could have emailed the club rather than wondering aloud on here. But then you were probably justified in presuming the club were in the right.
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| Despite ShayFax's post leaving the club in hot water and probably costing us many thousands of pounds, they bear no moral responsibility for this.
It is the clubs fault.
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| Quote ="ShayFax"You can't seriously be saying I am to blame for all of this debarcle?
This is no fault of mine...'"
I was only messing too - not a chance that you're accountable whatsoever. In fact - better it came out now than further down the line with the financial stakes being even higher. I'm surprised no-one else picked up on it from the 16th April onwards.
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| If I remember correctly...
Ben Seru played for The Army in the Challenge Cup 2/3 years back in the 3rd Round against Oldham.
He was then signed by Oldham and he played in their 4th round tie against Wakefiled against Belle Vue.
How is this allowed?
I'll try and find some evidence.
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| Until the Hull fiasco, there weren't actually any written laws for punishment regarding ineligible players except a fine. That is why Hull couldn't be expelled.
I would expect the army aren't a member club therefore rule B4:12 would now apply in the future.
B4:12 A player who plays for a Non Member Club in the Cup cannot in the same Season play for
another Non Member Club in the Cup. A player who has played for a Non Member Club in the
Cup may play for a Member Club in a later round or rounds of the Cup provided that he is on
the Register of that Club at the time set out in B4:9 above.
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| Quote ="ShayFax"If I remember correctly...
Ben Seru played for The Army in the Challenge Cup 2/3 years back in the 3rd Round against Oldham.
He was then signed by Oldham and he played in their 4th round tie against Wakefiled against Belle Vue.
How is this allowed?
I'll try and find some evidence.'"
There's a sub-rule about signing from non-member clubs (The Army). Basically, if they've played for a non-member club in a previous round they can then play for a member club in a later round.
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