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| To be fair the incident in the South Stand I was privvy to also and came about from an off the cuff remark after said player had dropped his burger on the floor. Shall we say a sarcastic remark relating to not being able to hold onto his rugby ball either. What happened afterwards between the two should NEVER have happened but for a player to want to sort things out in the car park is pretty poor. I also understand they are paid to play rugby but they are ALL still club ambassadors. That fan contributes to the players salary. It doesn't gives us the right to abuse them though I agree. Initially it was banter that desended into abuse and in my opinion the player should have just walked away and not added more flame to the fire. All that has occurred now is player walks away thinking to$$er fans and the supporter thinks the same about the club. This for me is where we need to be a little slicker and get communication movign between the club, players and fans.
But How?
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| well said mal!
its a confidence game and we need that all important win, who knows we could win by a point a batley last min, same as last yr. and go unbeaten again through to end of season, who knows?!
isnt that why we all go down every wk?, to see!
we would all love fax to win every wk a clean sweep all the trophies, but that would be borring, get behind the lads and lets finish strongly, its an anybody can beat anybody league at mo, and we just need that 1 win!
nice to see goddard back on scoresheet last nite aswell
see you at batley, im not giving up just yet!!!!!
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| Well thats the difficult part but silly behavior needs to be stamped out. From my perspective perhaps players and fans should avoid the bar after the game if wound up. i did hear it started as a joke although it sounds as though it hit a nerve, but such things shouldn't escalate by either fans or players.
As for how to improve communication? I suppose we need to get back on track, we support the players and get behind them for 80 minutes, and they in return play for 80 minutes. We all have a common goal to achieve so lets achieve it together!
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| People are entitled their own opinion, and Mal has his, thats fine by me, hes a good bloke that has the best interests at heart and sounds to be personally stung.
We all want the Club to succeed, its worth noting that players, coaches, officials and others come and go, the FANS stay, so i think if we see things we dont think are right, we have a voice and forum for that. I cant tell you how much i've spent over the years, like most fans.
We want to see the club moving forward, a team that gives its all, players that are proud of the shirt they wear, anyone thats been watching recently knows if they all showed the effort and desire of James Haley, we would be fine.
The people that run the club choose to be there, they are rewarded on the whole with wages they find satisfactory, or else they would leave. If I am not peforming at work my boss halls me over the carpet, i could lose my job, it generally doesn't matter that i was great 6 months ago, A Rugby Club is successfull by its results on the pitch, its success, its position in the league, the silveware it wins, but mostly it succeeds because it has fans who pay money to watch them.
We should under no circumstances shy away from honesty, opinions, praise or critcism. Without Fans from all walks and of all opinions there is no club to run.
Thank you for reading, and come on the Fax, whoever they may be.
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| Quote ="justthebasicfax"People are entitled their own opinion, and Mal has his, thats fine by me, hes a good bloke that has the best interests at heart and sounds to be personally stung.
We all want the Club to succeed, its worth noting that players, coaches, officials and others come and go, the FANS stay, so i think if we see things we dont think are right, we have a voice and forum for that. I cant tell you how much i've spent over the years, like most fans.
be.'"
But fans come and go too, as we know! So we are all equal in this equation and i don't think anyone has a problem with praise, criticism or whatever but perhaps the way it is sometimes presented
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| Quote ="faxfan"But fans come and go too, as we know! So we are all equal in this equation and i don't think anyone has a problem with praise, criticism or whatever but perhaps the way it is sometimes presented'"
True Halifax Fans its a disease..
RESULTS are doing more talking than abusive people who watch Halifax, the equation is simple.
Dont give them easy to moan about is the best course of action, they pay their money to get in too.
I would guess people in the club are a little shell shocked themselves about whats happened. If they are not i would be very very concerned indeed.
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| I am sorry Malfax that you like everybody else are upset at recent performances etc. I appreciate you are trying to rally call to all supporters to stick with the team because you are close to the club and believe me everything in the garden is rosy. We have only lost four matches in our losing sequence and hey Castleford supporters think were great so need to worry GF here we come! I don,t know how close to the club you are but in my long history of supporting the club the time to really worry is when the club say nothing is wrong. Supporters don't have a devine right to know all the in's and out's of the club and its management but I honestly feel we deserve more than what is currently being offered i.e. the present situation is just a blip and when we turn the corner god help the rest. The run of poor performances goes back way longer than 4 matches - when was the last time time we played well for 80minutes. Rumours currently doing the rounds are that we are skint again and have not paid the stadium rent for months! Equally serious are the rumours of alcohol abuse, poor behaviour andantisocial activity need to be investigated because they are totally unacceptable and should under no circumstances be condoned. Why has the squad not been strengthened mid season? Tactics? Fitness levels? Defence shortcomings? Playing certain players outside their usual position and even when they play poorly they still retain their place in the next match etc etc. I could live with a bit more information from the club in these matters. Maybe the club could have a Q&A session. If not face to face or perhaps on the website. Most supporters just want regular reassurance that what we see from the terraces is being noted by those in charge.
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| I think I am not unreasonable and I think most people are of the same mind. All I want is players to put 100% in on the field as well as off it.
I want players AND Coaching Staff to not go out drinking 24 hours before a game or during ANY comp!
The Head Coach to set a good example for his players and the Players and Coach to set a good example to youngsters by behaving themselves and not getting legless as is the case this season.
For the Head Coach to not have a name for being a big drinker
For the team to go out and defend. Much of that is down to commitment and pride for me. Players should know how to tackle by now-its basics.
For the team to be able to do the basics of Catching,Tackling and Passing 99% of the time-We all make mistakes so do not expect perfection.
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| To be fair i don't think anyone has said they have seen players out drinking 24 hours before a game
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| Blaming the fans is not the answer.
No, this is not the worst season ever by a very long way. There have been some great moments. However, I can say that in well over 30 years I have never seen a team play so far below what it is capable of as this one.
The most I ask from any team or anyone is that they give it their best shot. No one can tell me that this is currently happening. We have the best squad in the league and anything close to reasonable effort would not have resulted in four straight losses.
Conceding 50 points at home and gaining a bonus point is not good enough. The player who made that comment to Chris Smith should just leave now - that is a loser's mentality.
I will not be giving up on the team nor will I be abusing them. There are, however, a few of the players who clearly need their egos bursting.
A great situation has been wasted but we are not finished. We can still reach our goal. But come on it's down to the coach and players to win the fans respect back. One good win at Batley and we'll suddenly be a band of brothers again.
Halifax RLFC? It's not dead, it just smells funny!
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| I've recently refrained from posting much on the messageboard because of a few factors, one of which I'm connected to the club in an official capacity and another factor is that, whatever we say or think as supporters won't help at all with the current downturn in the squads' form.
I also don't like posting negatives, sure I'm pi$$ed at losing, sure I'd rather win ugly, sure I'd rather we hung in for a bonus point when losing, but I don't see as me posting on a messageboard will inspire the coaching staff or players onto victory.
I happened to drop into the office this morning on a little bit of business and I bumped into Hilda washing the kit, heart & soul of we volunteers, DEVASTATED ! We go back a long way me & Hilda, we care about the club/players/performances & everything that goes with it, we are one so to speak.
I go into the office and I cannot believe the comments being quoted from the messageboards about sacking Matt, but it wouldn't just be Matt would it, there's Proccy, Bally and Gonzalez, they're a team.
Comments about Calland wearing a BLACK TRACKSUIT !!! Perhaps his washing machine's broken and his down on his $hitty luck right now, we all know how it goes I'm sure.
Hally has done a runner !!!
Drinking culture !!!
Good grief, maybe I should cease reading & posting on the messageboards, worst season ever ???
Look at the attendances at Workington, Rochdale, Oldham, Keighley, Hunslet for recent games, we're really not that badly off.
And just for a comparison, I wish we had a Ken Davy, Des Johnston to throw money at our club, but we haven't so we're reliant on folks working their tired a$$es off in the good name of Halifax RLFC, Am still proud of my club and hope to be at the front of the queue for a GF ticket to watch us beat whoever we are playing against.
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| Quote ="faxfan"To be fair i don't think anyone has said they have seen players out drinking 24 hours before a game'"
Well they were on the p1ss in Blackpool Saturday night according to many people. Do not mind 1 beer but not getting sozzled as apparently happened
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| Quote ="marillion man"I've recently refrained from posting much on the messageboard because of a few factors, one of which I'm connected to the club in an official capacity and another factor is that, whatever we say or think as supporters won't help at all with the current downturn in the squads' form.
I also don't like posting negatives, sure I'm pi$$ed at losing, sure I'd rather win ugly, sure I'd rather we hung in for a bonus point when losing, but I don't see as me posting on a messageboard will inspire the coaching staff or players onto victory.
I happened to drop into the office this morning on a little bit of business and I bumped into Hilda washing the kit, heart & soul of we volunteers, DEVASTATED ! We go back a long way me & Hilda, we care about the club/players/performances & everything that goes with it, we are one so to speak.
I go into the office and I cannot believe the comments being quoted from the messageboards about sacking Matt, but it wouldn't just be Matt would it, there's Proccy, Bally and Gonzalez, they're a team.
Comments about Calland wearing a BLACK TRACKSUIT !!! Perhaps his washing machine's broken and his down on his $hitty luck right now, we all know how it goes I'm sure.
Hally has done a runner !!!
Drinking culture !!!
Good grief, maybe I should cease reading & posting on the messageboards, worst season ever ???
Look at the attendances at Workington, Rochdale, Oldham, Keighley, Hunslet for recent games, we're really not that badly off.
And just for a comparison, I wish we had a Ken Davy, Des Johnston to throw money at our club, but we haven't so we're reliant on folks working their tired a$$es off in the good name of Halifax RLFC, Am still proud of my club and hope to be at the front of the queue for a GF ticket to watch us beat whoever we are playing against.'"
great post mate
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| Quote ="marillion man"I've recently refrained from posting much on the messageboard because of a few factors, one of which I'm connected to the club in an official capacity and another factor is that, whatever we say or think as supporters won't help at all with the current downturn in the squads' form.
I also don't like posting negatives, sure I'm pi$$ed at losing, sure I'd rather win ugly, sure I'd rather we hung in for a bonus point when losing, but I don't see as me posting on a messageboard will inspire the coaching staff or players onto victory.
I happened to drop into the office this morning on a little bit of business and I bumped into Hilda washing the kit, heart & soul of we volunteers, DEVASTATED ! We go back a long way me & Hilda, we care about the club/players/performances & everything that goes with it, we are one so to speak.
I go into the office and I cannot believe the comments being quoted from the messageboards about sacking Matt, but it wouldn't just be Matt would it, there's Proccy, Bally and Gonzalez, they're a team.
Comments about Calland wearing a BLACK TRACKSUIT !!! Perhaps his washing machine's broken and his down on his $hitty luck right now, we all know how it goes I'm sure.
Hally has done a runner !!!
Drinking culture !!!
Good grief, maybe I should cease reading & posting on the messageboards, worst season ever ???
Look at the attendances at Workington, Rochdale, Oldham, Keighley, Hunslet for recent games, we're really not that badly off.
And just for a comparison, I wish we had a Ken Davy, Des Johnston to throw money at our club, but we haven't so we're reliant on folks working their tired a$$es off in the good name of Halifax RLFC, Am still proud of my club and hope to be at the front of the queue for a GF ticket to watch us beat whoever we are playing against.'"
I agree great post and Im going to remember this post and learn for it and control my anger at losing and if I cant Im going to have to give up going to games (still donating the money to the club for a season ticket).
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| Quote ="marillion man"Hally has done a runner !!!'"
...not for much longer. His knee has gone again
.....oops, thought you said Haley
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| Quote ="Malfax"As someone who is close to the club, I can tell you that it is very disappointing for us in the office to come in the day after a loss, and, remain positive and try to "Sell Halifax RLFC." It's even more disappointing to read some of the posts on this web site. Knocking the players helps nobody.
Rumours about why we are losing, for example Martin Hall hasn't left the club, he's actually taking advantage of school holidays to go on holiday with his family in Mexico.
The players are very upset, just like the rest of us, and, yes I get very upset.
It's a difficult time, but to read some of the things posted doesn't help.
Infering that this is the worst season ever is just stupid. I think this is one of the best seasons I've attended.
Lose by a single point to a Super League Castleford,and, being applauded by the Cas fans has got to be good.
If you think after losing four games that sacking the coach and the board is the way to go, we'll never achieve anything.
We should all be doing everything we can to help our players. See you all at Batley.
Malcolm P'"
I'll be there and will drag a few mates with me as well.
Proud of Fax this season. no team turns up to play bad just an honest bad patch were going through.
Bad patches make the good patches feel better.
Keep entetaining us Fax - can't wait for Batley game
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| Quote ="marillion man"I've recently refrained from posting much on the messageboard because of a few factors, one of which I'm connected to the club in an official capacity and another factor is that, whatever we say or think as supporters won't help at all with the current downturn in the squads' form.
I also don't like posting negatives, sure I'm pi$$ed at losing, sure I'd rather win ugly, sure I'd rather we hung in for a bonus point when losing, but I don't see as me posting on a messageboard will inspire the coaching staff or players onto victory.
I happened to drop into the office this morning on a little bit of business and I bumped into Hilda washing the kit, heart & soul of we volunteers, DEVASTATED ! We go back a long way me & Hilda, we care about the club/players/performances & everything that goes with it, we are one so to speak.
I go into the office and I cannot believe the comments being quoted from the messageboards about sacking Matt, but it wouldn't just be Matt would it, there's Proccy, Bally and Gonzalez, they're a team.
Comments about Calland wearing a BLACK TRACKSUIT !!! Perhaps his washing machine's broken and his down on his $hitty luck right now, we all know how it goes I'm sure.
Hally has done a runner !!!
Drinking culture !!!
Good grief, maybe I should cease reading & posting on the messageboards, worst season ever ???
Look at the attendances at Workington, Rochdale, Oldham, Keighley, Hunslet for recent games, we're really not that badly off.
And just for a comparison, I wish we had a Ken Davy, Des Johnston to throw money at our club, but we haven't so we're reliant on folks working their tired a$$es off in the good name of Halifax RLFC, Am still proud of my club and hope to be at the front of the queue for a GF ticket to watch us beat whoever we are playing against.'"
Whey Hey!! ....well said Marillion....up the mighty FAX.
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| Quote ="marillion man"I've recently refrained from posting much on the messageboard because of a few factors, one of which I'm connected to the club in an official capacity and another factor is that, whatever we say or think as supporters won't help at all with the current downturn in the squads' form.
I also don't like posting negatives, sure I'm pi$$ed at losing, sure I'd rather win ugly, sure I'd rather we hung in for a bonus point when losing, but I don't see as me posting on a messageboard will inspire the coaching staff or players onto victory.
I happened to drop into the office this morning on a little bit of business and I bumped into Hilda washing the kit, heart & soul of we volunteers, DEVASTATED ! We go back a long way me & Hilda, we care about the club/players/performances & everything that goes with it, we are one so to speak.
I go into the office and I cannot believe the comments being quoted from the messageboards about sacking Matt, but it wouldn't just be Matt would it, there's Proccy, Bally and Gonzalez, they're a team.
Comments about Calland wearing a BLACK TRACKSUIT !!! Perhaps his washing machine's broken and his down on his $hitty luck right now, we all know how it goes I'm sure.
Hally has done a runner !!!
Drinking culture !!!
Good grief, maybe I should cease reading & posting on the messageboards, worst season ever ???
Look at the attendances at Workington, Rochdale, Oldham, Keighley, Hunslet for recent games, we're really not that badly off.
And just for a comparison, I wish we had a Ken Davy, Des Johnston to throw money at our club, but we haven't so we're reliant on folks working their tired a$$es off in the good name of Halifax RLFC, Am still proud of my club and hope to be at the front of the queue for a GF ticket to watch us beat whoever we are playing against.'"
well said, agree totally.
just started a thread about the washing.
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| bottom line is any team is going to lose games,
its the mannor in which we have lost the last four games that is upsetting!
From a spectators point of view - to team has gone from winning week in weekout to losing week in week out
Agin from a spectators point of view the team deos not seem to be gelling the way it was 10 games ago!
Something is wrong and its down to the coaches and players to put it right!
all i am asking for is a good match day experiance with a team that is competative, right now that is not the case!
and for the record i am 100% behind my club - but something is just not right at the moment!
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| Abusing the players is not the answer - let's get behind them.
However, I do not agree with the blind faith shown by some on here. Everybody has to take criticism in their working life. In fact if you can't take it, how can you ever improve?
The game at Batley is a cup final. If we get 17 players giving 100%, it will be hard for us to lose. That is why I expect us to win (with all due respect to a Batley team who will make it hard for us).
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| I miss very few matches and, unfortunately, there are always loads of fax "fans" that continually abuse players! at the moment Worrincey is getting the brunt but not too long ago it was Miles (unbelievably!!!) it seems that a large proportion of the crowd just aren't happy unless they are targeting one of our own players.
To me this isn't what suporting a team is about. i'll cheer on any player wearing that shirt. How do these "fans" feel that abusing players will get the best out of them?!?!?!
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| Oh to be a Fax fan....I travelled from MK to watch fax on Thursday,got home at midnight!! Sure I was dissapointed!! But keep the faith...THIS IS the best season i've seen since 98! If we don't get anything out of this season,with the stand complete,the core of a good squad,names to sign bein banded about,the future looks bright!! Keep smilin...it is only a game after all!!
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| Quote ="Mr Pippin"Oh to be a Fax fan....I travelled from MK to watch fax on Thursday,got home at midnight!! Sure I was dissapointed!! But keep the faith...THIS IS the best season i've seen since 98! If we don't get anything out of this season,with the stand complete,the core of a good squad,names to sign bein banded about,the future looks bright!! Keep smilin...it is only a game after all!!
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Spot on, we must keep the faith as the club need us as we don't have a moneybags chairman like Barrow and Widnes.
To the hardcore fans like us keep it going.
To the new recruits, give us a bit more time as with your extra support we can move this club even further forward.
We are nearly there, a No6, winger and 2 new props and we will do well next season.
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| I feel a tad humble at reading the posts on here, more so the thread starter Malfax, and I feel slightly embarrassed about my own moaning.
I think the crux of it, for me anyway, is that we started the season on fire with some of the most entertaining rugby played by Halifax for over 10 years, and as such I really did think we were an outstanding team, far better than our NL1 rivals. So when the wheels "seemingly" started falling off I found it hard to take, especially after being so confident of reaching the NRC Final - I was planning the weekend trip to Blackpool well in advance, and to lose against Widnes was gutting.
But in reality, even though we have of course some very good players, we are NOT so much better than our rivals. Infact there are some very good players in our league who DON'T play for Fax, and it's a bluddy tough league, especially at this stage of the season. To moan at losing at Sheffield is .... well ... it's totally ridiculous.
And let's face it, if the lads didn't try then we'd lose matches 60 nil.
So .... I for one will no longer moan and groan, and I will continue to shout for the lads in the matches to come.
And I have also just stuck £100 at 13/8 for Fax to win the GF, to demonstrate my faith. Up the Fax!
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| Quote ="Tony Fax"
And I have also just stuck £100 at 13/8 for Fax to win the GF, to demonstrate my faith. Up the Fax!
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Bloody hell. There's faith, Blind faith and a diagnosable delusional psychosis!!!!!!!!
I'm not sure I'd put £100 on Fev if we could field the Aussie national side!!
A ton is still a biggish wedge of wonga to put down on a team seemingly in freefall" - economic downturn or not!!!
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