I think you will find only a small Minority Blame Widnes, I for one don't blame them, I just dont Like them, I Think that Nigel Wood, Former Cheif Executive of us here at HalifaxRLFC has a grudge against us for whatever, and hinders us at every opportunity

Been away this weekend so couldnt go yesterday. Ive read through most of the bitter postings on here and ive got to laugh. Personally i couldnt give a stuff about whether someone or several people think the figures were altered to suit our seasons average. I was surprised myself by the attendance, but i certainly didnt think it was impossible to attain before the game. A culmination of last league game at home, good weather as it was, cheap tickets, free tickets?, and the attendance of a larger than usual Batley fan base due to their recent success can certainly add much substance to the attendance. So if you dont like it then tough!

I personally think that Widnes (along with Fax and Leigh) should be in SL as they are easily the club with the more than appropriate criteria so i have no axe to grind with their fans. Accept the attendance for what it is and we will accept the likely inception of Widnes to SL!

First off, our stadium is not crumbling as you say. the North stand might not be the best but even without that it is more than a good enough ground to host super league, hense why Huddersfeild are using it for some of there games next season. if it wasnt good enough they would have found somewhere else to play there games.

oh this is fun to watch all the Widnes fans squirming now we have ticked another box,

your post though who are you trying to convince us or yourself

Your bid would be a good one also, you havent earnt the right to apply yet though, its grand final or bust for your application sadly, i hope you are our opponents though so you can make a bid for the RFL to think about

Yes it is a fans forum and you do have a right to post where ever you want.

any fan though who has the majority of there posts in someone elses forum is really just a wing up merchant

News to us! Lol!

according to a report in the courier the crowd was boosted by a liberal handing out of tickets at the halifax show on saturday by the club.

Do you think faxtastic thinks you support the Leythers?

I'll get my coat

I'll let you off as it's Monday

I thought that, but he said bid would be a good one so got confused

So Widnes are not spending upto the £300k salary cap on your players?

Not all on 'first team' players as has to include academy lads!

Are you sure ? , they,ve changed the rules on that then

7.3 Costs for those players under 21 who are eligible to play in the academy teams are to be
excluded from the Salary Cap Qualifying Costs. For the avoidance of doubt, this means
players need to be under 21 years of age on August 31st in the year prior to the Salary Cap
Year in question. However, there is no credit granted against Salary Cap Qualifying Cost for
U21 players loaned out to other clubs (see 6.4.2 above).


Thats from the RFL - so all the Academy lads wont count on the cap. Have Widnes been doing it on the cheap this year with their first team?

get lost widnes fans keep giving nigel wood head the super leagues just full of pre madonnas

will be good to see the back of you lot

It's =#FF0000Prima Donnas by the way, meaning egotistical. Made me chuckle anyway.

Well I for one will not be glad to see the back of them as they do bring a few fans.Although from what I hear it`s not certain Widnes will get promotion and as Widnes is ok with however the RFL pick there Sooper Dooper teams can`t see them moaning too much. So for me it should be Tolouse into Sooper Dooper so we fans don`t have to spend a fortune going over there to watch our team play rugby.Keep Widnes down so we get a few fans to the match relegate Cass `cos they will bring more fans than Wakey (sorry Cass fans but I`m being totally selfish here) Then let the Sooper Doopers have all the teams with no show fans, London (whatever their called this year) The so called Welsh team and the two french teams that will be ok for me.

Firstly - do you actually know what you have spent on your first team compared to other teams?
Secondly - isnt the nature of sport to create competitive teams on the pitch - isn't that why we go to watch. And if you are poor on the pitch you will have no chance of increasing your crowds (another criteria to meet). And this division is too competitive to be complacent and you could easlily risk relegation if your first team isnt strong enough.
And it would have been really interesting had Widnes not sneaked the NR cup last year.

Well I think there is a chance that both Widnes and Toulouse will be put in. It makes sense to the RFL to have a local derby for Les Catalans. However they won't have met the criteria, so they will also have to put Widnes in. I think they will relegate either Wakefield or Cas and also Salford. With Salford knowing that once their stadium is up and running they will be the prime team to be re-elected into Super League. I'm afraid it's over really for any of the other teams like Fax, Leigh, Fev, Barrow et al as their faces just don't fit.

I would think Barrow have a chance but Des is too out spoken for the RFL. He doesn't sing from the hymn sheet along with the other chairman.

Once Salford's stadium is built, Super League will be increased to 15 teams and then the doors will be locked until a Scottish or Irish team is doing well in the Championship.

That's how I see it going long term anyway.

Widnes fans seem to think that if they hadnt won the Cup last year, this years team would be different. However, as they would still have to adhere to the salary cap of £300,000 or at a push £400,000 i dont see how much difference it would make. I would assume that they would be upto the cap with there current squad, as poor as it is.

The cap is £300,000 with an absolute upper limit of 40% of £1m. It's there in black and white.

3. a club may exceptionally seek in writing a dispensation from the RFL to spend in excess of 40% and/or the above finite upper limit (to be known as the Club Agreed Salary Cap) subject to the following;
3(a) such a dispensation will not be granted unless the RSCM is in agreement that the club can afford to spend in excess of the finite upper limit and/or 40% of Salary Cap Relevant Income on player wages, having regard to the club’s financial history, the level of debts at the club, a liquidity assessment of the club and an assessment as to club’s overall club development strategy; and
3(b) an absolute upper limit of £400,000 (for a club in the Championship division) or £200,000 (for a club in Championship 1).

Nobody really knows what each club has spent on the first team.Be nice to know,but if Widnes have spent the same or more than Fax then we have recruited badly.

They do now but not sure they thought that way at start of season. I am quite sure many of them thought they would be up there, but like you say they have been poor (again). And despite the crowd issue yesterday, at ours have been going in the right direction. And thats down to getting a team on the pitch worth watching

This is a red Herring. Widnes may, or may not, be spending up to the cap. All it means is that Widnes have spent more on better quality, but fewer old pros and tried to give youth a chance by playing many more youngsters than the rest. Unfortunately it’s those few old pros whom have been crocked for most of the season.

If we hadn’t won the cup last season, Widnes would probably have gone down the same route as Halifax and Barrow and chocked it full of old pros, south sea islanders and Aussies.

So yes, it would have been a very different team. That kind of experience makes a difference in this league.