that probably the best and clearest post ive ever read...thanks

What part aren't we elligible for?

The £1,000,000 jobby?

Edit, apparently it's the attendance thing that does us. Didn't realise some had been as low as they had.

Sh[i![/it or bust against Batley, attendance of 5,000 needed. Free gate? Just announce it as 5,000 anyway. Why not

and heres me thinking it was only us fev fans who wa bitter

Mate i have got to agree with you on that front.Even if my team Widnes got a licence i still think it is all wrong.I have lived down London for a few yrs and i once said put the rugby league on, and nobody watched it.It was Quins v Widnes when we was in Superleague.A few like the game but it wont expand.Why we putting money in to develop the French players when we should be improving the British players.If British sport wants to have success we need as many fulltime British or english players.I think it is the same in football,as we see the premier league one of the best in the world.But again full of foreign players.Yes a few foreign players of quality is good but not a squad.A club should only be allowed 5 foreign players maximum.Hopefully one day goes back to a proper sport, where the game used to be fair.

A bit like when they listened to Leighton Samuels at Celtic then and look what happened there

Our Chairman said Toulouse couldnt afford to go into SL without someone bank rolling them............................................

R.......Rotund
F.......Franchise
L.......Lover

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I am not bitter about Fax not being in SL. I am bitter about the way the game is being ruined and so many fans are not happy, yet the RFL do not care. For me I would love to have seen Barrow have a crack at SL this year. Or Fev next year as for me they have been the best teams and should have been given a chance in SL as long as they were not losing money. Instead we (Fax, Fev, Leigh, Barrow etc) are told to play a load of meaningless games with no real hope for the future for anybody. I see many fans ready to walk away.
I fear for the game and famous clubs like Fev, Fax, Leigh etc. It breaks my heart to see the way our game is being ruined by clowns who do not give a hoot about the game as a whole. I honestly do not think Championship clubs have much to lose by telling the RFL to go and do one. They do not want us anyway. And if fans from Championship clubs make demonstrations etc what can the RFL do to Clubs?

Bloody hell, rovers is right. You do whinge like one of us!!







You could be a fev fan with that post!!!



As expected, I'm entirely in agreement with you!

If Lewis & Wood have their way, in the next round after 2012 of franchises, Super League will consist of

Wigan
Leeds
Warrington
Perpignan
Toulouse
Edinburgh
Wales
Newcastle-Gateshead
London
Leeds
Bradford
St Helens
Hull
Hull KR

A breakaway is inevitable, and a must for the heartlands to survive.

Halifax, Fev, Leigh & Barrow will NEVER get a chance unless promotion/relegation is restored.
We'll see Widnes, Salford, Wakey & Cas probably making way for the expansionists unless any of the expansion clubs go bust.

I THINK THAT JOHN KEAR HAS JUST SIGNED A NEW CONTRACT WITH WAKEY ASWELL.

HE WONT BE HAPPY AT ALL IF ITS A WAKEY WIDNES SWAP!!!

I WOULD FEEL FOR KEAR ASWELL AS I RESPECT HIM MASSIVLEY

So much so you had to shout about it!



I agree mind!!

The more I think about all of this, the more I shake my head in disbelief!

A complete and utter shambles!!!!

But all the champ club chairmen will continue to bow down and keep quiet, and us fans will have our rant on here. Is it not time to stand up and be counted and remind red hall that they are the RFL and they have 30+ member clubs.

I just can't understand the whole system, and i'm sure there are many like me. I mean one of the best games I ever watched was Wakey Vs Cas in a relegation battle (who ever wins stays up). And it was a belting game of rugby. Theres none of that anymore, yes it's not a great boost to finish bottom but players aren't going to fight for the game like they were. Wrecking the sport they are.

IMHO it is just another example of the RFL blindly following the NRL example and chanting the mantra all "Aussie ideas are best".

He will end up as coach at Widnes.

I AGREE, WHAT A GAME, THATS WHY WE GO TO WATCH RUGBY...2 TEAMS GIVING 100% TO WIN, AT THE END OF THIS SEASON IN SUPER LEAGUE AT THE BOTTOM , TEAMS WITH NOTHING TO PLAY FOR, ARE THEY GOING TO BE GIVING 100%??

DOUBT IT, I WOULDNT,

"IM SIGNED ON FOR NEXT YEAR ANYWAY, AND WERE NOT GOING TO GET RELEGATED"

ITS A JOKE,

I GO HOME AND AWAY REGARDLESS TO WATCH FAX, AND WAS INTRODUCED INTO THE GAME AT 3 YEARS OLD, WHO TOOK ME TO THOSE GAMES UP AT THRUM HALL?

MY PARENTS, AND THEIR FRIENDS, WHO ALL TRAVELLED HOME AND AWAY NONE OF WHOLM GO DOWN THE SHAY NOW....WHY I ASK THEM?

BECAUSE THE SPORTS A JOKE IS THEIR ANSWER, AND THEIR NOT ON THIER OWN!!

I also remember the moaning that went on after that match because there was too much onus on the bottom of the table when, apparently, 3rd party interest should have been concentrated at the top. Madness.

And just because licensing works (?) in Aus doesn't mean it will here.

It should work over in Oz, they offload their surplus over here and to all corners of the RU world !!!!

put yourself in lewis's boots (don't give a poop about RL just boosting mi pension up and long may it last, RL will be here longer than i will be destroying the lower leagues because i'm a puppet for sky)
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Give yourself some credit here, you perfectly understand the system... you see it as we all do for what it really is. It's a means for the RFL to cherry pick who they want in their big league. Nothing more and nothing less.

What you don't get is the bullcrap that is spouted by those in favour of the system about youth development, club financing etc etc.

There were a number of much more subtle measures that could have been implemented to handle these things before such a drastic move of removing promotion and relegation. None of it would interest the RFL as it wouldn't get them what they want.

TWO Leeds sides in there? Can't see Hunslet getting the nod.



No Manchester mentioned. I feel that Sky and the RFL will do everything in their power to get a representative from the twin cities of Manchester / Salford. Maybe, as a condition of the grant of a licence, they might demand that Salford rename themselves to reflect that they represent (?) the larger conurbation.

I agree that certain clubs, including the ones you mentioned, will never get the leg up into SL unless and until P&R is restored, although I don't honestly think that a breakaway is the answer for a number of reasons.

I agree. What it needs is the clubs outside of SL collectively making noises about the ridiculous franchise system. It seems as though the clubs just accepted it with little or no opposition.

why do they accept it though?.
could it be that the rfl and people like hetherington keep dangling another carrot infront of the directors of our clubs.

Franchise D Day cant come soon enough for me, another chance to highlight what a bunch of imbeciles run the game, I hope they kick out a Club and refuse Widnes, this should cause a real stink and find then someone might really start challenging this process and showing it for the absolutely atrocious undermining of the sports integrity.

Fans should definitely start making their feelings known by protest, Sky cameras, Grand Finals etc.