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| Quote ="vikings 4 ever". SO'C can say Widnes have the biggest support outside SL, internationally recognised sponsors, great ground, 8 homegrown youngsters in the 1st team. Our u18's have been competing against SL sides week in week out for the last x number of years. We now have the financial clout to compete in SL and I have a feeling that when the next round of accounts are produced, they will look impressive. We can also say that we will expand the game both locally into Runcorn and a bit further afield by marketing to the West (Merseyside) as well as to the South, where apart from the new Wrexham club, there is virtually no RL clubs until you hit Harlequins.
Apart from being able to compete at Championship level (without actually winning anything so far), is there anything Fax can say or do to trump any of that?'"
Internationally recongnised sponsors? Halton Solicitors? SOC? Stobarts? that wont have any baring on SL. When was the last game you played in the league with 8 home grown youngsters?
And as for the rest - your going to expand the game to Runcorn? Well thats you nailed on then..i have always had a feeling RL would do well there...Merseyside? Im sure Saints might want to do that..and are in a better position to do so....and the south? ok...you have the rest of the south of england to develop. Good luck with that.
As you have said in your post...its all about posturing..and the above is just that.
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| Quote ="Pepe"Read my earlier posts again.
He is investing in the clubs future and not necessarily looking for a return on that investment.
I just can’t dumb it down anymore for you than that. It seems pretty easy to understand, so what’s your problem?'"
I have read your posts....
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Every penny of that loss was paid for by SOC, in the form of a gift. Therefore we have accrued no debt as a result. '"
Now surely you dont want me to dumb it down for you even more do you?
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| Quote ="Pepe"icon_biggrin.gifOH:
You're right, but I think A N Other is acting just as obtuse as several of the s on there, so he deserves it.
Either that or he is actually thick.'"
So your accusing someone of being thick as they are not accepting your views or putting other thoughts accross? If you have problems with that....prehaps you should go back to your own board.
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| Come on lads - Christmas cheer and all that.
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| Quote ="Pepe"icon_biggrin.gifOH:
You're right, but I think A N Other is acting just as obtuse as several of the s on there, so he deserves it.
Either that or he is actually thick.'"
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| Quote ="a.n Other"Internationally recongnised sponsors? Halton Solicitors? SOC? Stobarts? that wont have any baring on SL. When was the last game you played in the league with 8 home grown youngsters?
And as for the rest - your going to expand the game to Runcorn? Well thats you nailed on then..i have always had a feeling RL would do well there...Merseyside? Im sure Saints might want to do that..and are in a better position to do so....and the south? ok...you have the rest of the south of england to develop. Good luck with that.
As you have said in your post...its all about posturing..and the above is just that.'"
Exactly -but when it comes to the application, how are Halifax going to pursuade the RFL that they will be a worthy addition to SL? I mean, probably the most important year before the licence applications go in and Fax go all quiet on youth development and sign a few over the hill players - no real way of dressing it up and making it sound good is there?
Are Fax really basing their whole licence application on building the best possible 1st team squad and hoping for the best?
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| Quote ="a.n Other"I have read your posts....
Now surely you dont want me to dumb it down for you even more do you?'"
What part of that quote is in anyway inconsistent with my very first post on this subject?
Quote ="Pepe"He's not there to make money out of Widnes. He just wanted to improve the infrastructure of the club in order to strengthen the bid and the club itself as a whole.
It's a wonderful thing to have a man like that in charge.
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The man has put his own money, in the form of a gift, into improving the infastructure of the club. That is an investment in the club, and doesn't mean he wants a return on that investment. Perhaps the word [i'investment'[/i is confusing you?
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| Quote ="vikings 4 ever"Exactly -but when it comes to the application, how are Halifax going to pursuade the RFL that they will be a worthy addition to SL? I mean, probably the most important year before the licence applications go in and Fax go all quiet on youth development and sign a few over the hill players - no real way of dressing it up and making it sound good is there?
Are Fax really basing their whole licence application on building the best possible 1st team squad and hoping for the best?'"
Haven't you heard, they've got fat Nige on their side.
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| I tell thee, Barra' or New South Sheeps will be in Pooper League when the time comes.
I'm happy in the Championship WINNING!
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| Quote ="vikings 4 ever"Exactly -but when it comes to the application, how are Halifax going to pursuade the RFL that they will be a worthy addition to SL? I mean, probably the most important year before the licence applications go in and Fax go all quiet on youth development and sign a few over the hill players - no real way of dressing it up and making it sound good is there?
Are Fax really basing their whole licence application on building the best possible 1st team squad and hoping for the best?'"
Not at all - the club have stated that they are starting up the youth development again this year - infact the scholarship sides are up and running.
If the club doesnt have u20's or u18's by the time the licences are awarded then you can come back and say that you told me so...
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| Quote ="a.n Other" If you have problems with that....prehaps you should go back to your own board.'"
I would, but I'd only find you there trolling anyway.
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| Quote ="vikings 4 ever"Are Fax really basing their whole licence application on building the best possible 1st team squad and hoping for the best?'"
All arguments aside, this sentence would have been a ridiculous statement to make 20 years ago. How this "sport" has changed. Quite sad really.
Back to that statement though - there is no competition for that available spot in 2012. Everyone knows it's Widnes - because they are more ready than anyone else.
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| Quote ="Pepe"What part of that quote is in anyway inconsistent with my very first post on this subject?
The man has put his own money, in the form of a gift, into improving the infastructure of the club. That is an investment in the club, and doesn't mean he wants a return on that investment. Perhaps the word [i'investment'[/i is confusing you?'"
Ahh..so you did make over a million pound losses last year then. Ok thats that cleared up then - SOC put his money in....to improve the council owned facility you use. But...you then say it wasnt a loss as SOC gave it as a gift.....your right i am confused...by your attempts to make a loss look like it doesnt matter!
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| Quote ="a.n Other"So your accusing someone of being thick as they are not accepting your views or putting other thoughts accross? If you have problems with that....prehaps you should go back to your own board.'"
a.n Other you have dug yourself a massive hole and at the moment your struggling to get out. Nobody is willing to throw a rope in for you unless you accept you have been owned in this thread.
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| Quote ="a.n Other"Ahh..so you did make over a million pound losses last year then. Ok thats that cleared up then - SOC put his money in....to improve the council owned facility you use. But...you then say it wasnt a loss as SOC gave it as a gift.....your right i am confused...by your attempts to make a loss look like it doesnt matter!'"
You certainly are.
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"a.n Other you have dug yourself a massive hole and at the moment your struggling to get out. Nobody is willing to throw a rope in for you unless you accept you have been owned in this thread.'"
What are you on about VM?
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| Quote ="Faax!"I tell thee, Barra' or New South Sheeps will be in Pooper League when the time comes.
I'm happy in the Championship WINNING!
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You still havent answered this question:
Who will the RFL drop from SL to make room for Barrow, and Why?
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| Quote ="a.n Other"What are you on about VM?'"
Okay the rope has now gone as your in denial, only a few are left peering over the big hole and they're from Yorkshire. Will they help this lost Halifax fan deep inside the hole or will they turn away in disgust..
Find out after the break on 'When fans collide'.
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| Quote ="Pepe"You still havent answered this question:
Who will the RFL drop from SL to make room for Barrow, and Why?'"
Wakey.
Because just take a look at the club overall.
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| Quote ="Faax!"Wakey.
Because just take a look at the club overall.
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Worst response ever.
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"Worst response ever.'"
You know it.
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"Okay the rope has now gone as your in denial, only a few are left peering over the big hole and they're from Yorkshire. Will they help this lost Halifax fan deep inside the hole or will they turn away in disgust..
Find out after the break on 'When fans collide'.'"
So....in denial...of....A club losing over a million pounds last year?.....A club that has seen its crowds drop last year?....a club that has been in Adminstration recently........A club that has been rejected three times by the RFL in the past 15 years....Regardless of your spin...the above is correct. Now that doesnt mean that you wont get a licence in the next round....but you might not.
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| Quote ="a.n Other"So....in denial...of....A club losing over a million pounds last year?.....A club that has seen its crowds drop last year?....a club that has been in Adminstration recently........A club that has been rejected three times by the RFL in the past 15 years....Regardless of your spin...the above is correct. Now that doesnt mean that you wont get a licence in the next round....but you might not.'"
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