it would be interesting to know how many special purpose vehicles widnes have up their sleeves

Money is a man made illusion anyway, it doesn't really exist.

In the case of enron, you stand corrected

Just thought I d remind everybody what the resonse was to last years figures

Your doing yourself no favours with this Starbug, your bordering on obsession. Whatever small amount of respect you had is slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwly disappearing.

My point being , if you read through the thread I spent most of it defending the accounts posted last with a reasoned explanation , just as this years also have a fairly simple explanation , Trashcansinatra , a Widnes fan posted on both occasions as close to the truth as you will get

If you prefer fantasy rather than the truth , then fine away you go

Once again you seem to forget that this is the Halifax board, what do you care anyway your a Leyther and should be concentrating on your own bid rather constantly focus on Widnes and drag discussions up on other clubs boards.

Starbug is always welcome on this board. He has a great insight and is a worthwhile contributor.

Good because he isnt welcome on ours.

The truth hurts sometimes

OUT OF INTEREST HOW OLD ARE YOU AND STARBUG? YOU TALK AS IF YOUR SCHOOL CHILDREN FIGHTING OVER THE LAST BOTTLE OF MILK!

WHO CARES WHAT WIDNES HAVE POSTED THEIR FINANCIAL YEAR AS!

AM I WRONG, OR DO THE PLAYOFFS START THIS WEEK?!

GET REAL AND SUPPORT YOUR TEAMS

What truth? i couldnt give a flying love what you think Starbug, we have our house in order and thats all that matters. As i said concentrate on your own club, of course your entitled to discuss other RL matters but i fail to see what your trying to achieve with all this except bore people to death.

I couldnt be more happy with my club at the minute.

Do you watch what goes on on the pitch? Isn't that the real reason you pay your sovs to the gate man

I d like apologise to the fax fans for dragging this up , I am currently posting on an I pad , or I would have just posted a link of this thread to the one on the widnes board , but not too sure how to do it with this device

It's quite clear to anyone that weve put a lot of emphasis on 'Yoof' these last 2 years and now have one if not the top setup in the country. If we really wanted to we could have ditched that like most other clubs have done and just concentrated on the first team. And before you say anything we have already seen a number of kids breaking through the first team. We produced Richie Myler and have a number of other prospects already rated better than him to come through. The first team has suffered but in the long run we'll be all the better for it. Short term thinking gets you nowhere.

Snap, Ipads are awesome bugman.

And with that you have lost any credibility you had, come on here talking about finances etc when you are lording it up using an I Pad! Show off!!

Didnt it state in your announcement that you are spending the full cap? Kids dont count on the cap, so there has been something going wrong at first team level.

Long term thinking costs money - something we aint got. You're right though - investing in your youth is a sensible policy and a license requirement !! although i think it'll end up the same as Halifax's - all the success at youth level but with none of the conversion - and you've got a hell of a conversion to make in Super League.

Im sure you have noticed the sad times that Paul Cullens gone though, he's been missing for around half the year training wise, and our injury list the first 3 months of the season was nothing short of shocking.

It is my 11 yr old daughters , bought with her own money

My 12 yr old acer laptop can't get a signal until bt replace our wireless hub

It helps that our Under 18's are mixing it with all the super league boys and whooping them, of course you need a sugar daddy to keep all this running and were very very very lucky indeed to have Mr O'connor at the helm. As for conversion it's much easier for a half back or hooker to slot in than it is a forward for youngsters but im more than confident that some of the lads will step up. The other 20 or so squad members will have Steve getting his cheque book out. Im fully ware that we'll get our backsides spanked that first year should we go up but thats part of the super league life.

Of course i am aware of the terrible times for Paul Cullen. And i havent brought that in to this.

The point is, having outstanding juniors hasnt had an impact on your ability to spend the full salary cap. So that cant be blamed for your average performances for the past 3 years.