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| Never really seen eye to eye with Ian but have to take my hat off and welcome him back, purely for taking the contract negotiations from Marshall, who pretty much thinks the club is his to run as he sees fit. When you consider the increases some players have attained through their pal, the quality of the majority of his signings etc it's no wonder someone has stepped in, it's a shambles right now. Id certainly be keeping him away from any contract negotiations as he wont be here next year and personally I'd put him on gardening leave for the remainder of this season, giving the new coach a chance to communicate their requirements before they step in. The current BOD are ineffective and out of their depth bringing very little to the club other than disarray and zero commercial funds...
Here's hoping Ian can restore some common sense and for that I'm chuffed hes back....
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| I thought that the club was finally going to get its act in gear with Mark Moore. He certainly wasnt everyones cup of tea with his management style but at least he steered the ship. We now have an anonymous management style and just feel to be drifting in any direction with no destination. I was hoping for an injection of new blood rather than venturing along previous paths that have failed. The last couple of games have however provided a ray of hope so lets hope the team can show everyone the way forward. For me its foot on the ball time ,look about, assess and take care on key decisions that affect the clubs future.
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| Mark Moore was a strong character who you either liked or didn't but he certainly got the club moving in the right direction. Another year under his charge may well have solved some of the structural (no playing) problems. The present BOD are simply not up to it.
Ian will have a tough job, a squad that needs to be rebuilt, a coach who needs to be replaced and a budget considerably less than this seasons. I hope he is up to it because we can forget this year now, next year is going to be pivatol in our history.
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| Time for people who can help to step up then?? Instead of squabbling and not picking.... This season isnt gone yet but something needs doing now and you guys on the old Exec Committee really need to stand up and be counted and try rally around and do something positive.... This BOD are out of their depth, absolutely and I've said it for a long time... commercially they've crippled the club... So time for change.
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| Quote ="chris_smith"Time for people who can help to step up then?? Instead of squabbling and not picking.... This season isnt gone yet but something needs doing now and you guys on the old Exec Committee really need to stand up and be counted and try rally around and do something positive.... This BOD are out of their depth, absolutely and I've said it for a long time... commercially they've crippled the club... So time for change.'"
Chris Smith, I feel again there's a lot assertion and perception in what you are saying. What do you think are the commercial opportunities that we aren't seizing upon? Genuine question im asking, no agenda or needle.
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| No assertion at all... As a potential sponsor and knowing several sponsors, I get tokd certain things. Ultimately the commercial side is way off where it needs to be and very little being done to eradicate this, although I expect Ian's return is in some way to do with this. He is a shareholder and I'm sure wants the club back on an even keel. As it stands now due to the lack of anyone delivering any commercial activity the club is facing a severe financial black hole with the budgets based around certain attendances too, which in the main have also not been met. A prime early example was Simon Grix only had his player sponsorship sold the Weds prior to the season starting. The season before was completely sold out weeks in advance. The club asked someone to help out and this individual sold it within 2 hours.....Dining not being sold, game sponsorship not being sold....Lots of things not been done great right now....
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| Ian is a shareholder, and like many of the directors before him took shares instead of getting all his money back! Although I understand he still gets, and will for years ahead, a free box/hospitality as part of the setoff against past debts. I believe his re-emergence is because there is some disputed debt still.
However he is the only active shareholder involved with running the club and I’m not sure that’s a good thing. Michael Steele has most shares and has now stepped back, Tony Abbot still has shares and gets a free box and hospitality too as part of an old setoff, agreed by Croad a few years ago.
Laurence Turner is a brilliant sponsor, perhaps our largest over recent time, he has shares but these were mainly gifted to him when Howard Posner moved away from Yorkshire.
All this means that in reality control of the club is outside of the Bod’s hands and they can easily be removed.....but who on earth would now invest and replace them....not me!
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| Dbvada. How thing turn, the time is ripe for a change, something you have called for and all but publicly thrown your hat in the ring.but now you turn you back figerivitally speaking.
You andChris_Smith shout from from the rooftops how large your cohonies are, but seems more like peas.
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| Do I really....?? I've given info but never bragged or boasted about myself... Your the one with the issues by the sounds of it
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| Chris_Smith = quotes
Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:31 pm
"The current BOD are ineffective and out of their depth bringing very little to the club other than disarray and zero commercial funds..."
Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:54 pm
"Time for people who can help to step up then?? Instead of squabbling and not picking.... This season isnt gone yet but something needs doing now and you guys on the old Exec Committee really need to stand up and be counted and try rally around and do something positive.... This BOD are out of their depth, absolutely and I've said it for a long time... commercially they've crippled the club... So time for change."
Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:14 pm
"No assertion at all... As a potential sponsor and knowing several sponsors, I get tokd certain things. Ultimately the commercial side is way off where it needs to be and very little being done to eradicate this,"
And I am the one with issues? need we go on?
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| Quote ="the fax in asia"Dbvada. How thing turn, the time is ripe for a change, something you have called for and all but publicly thrown your hat in the ring.but now you turn you back figerivitally speaking.
You andChris_Smith shout from from the rooftops how large your cohonies are, but seems more like peas.'"
I know a number of people who use this forum think they know me and that I was in some way connected to a certain group involved with the club.
Can I say that you are entirely wrong. I have never been anything other than a local player of the game (not very well) and a fan who now sits at most games as I’m too old to stand. On a financial note I struggle to afford the cost of entry now that I only work a few shifts each week and could never afford investing, although I did once buy a brick at Thrum Hall.
I have strong views, all of them my own, from watching the club for over fifty years. Whilst the Club is not broke it remains poorly run and I will call it as I see it.
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| Quote ="the fax in asia"Chris_Smith = quotes
Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:31 pm
"The current BOD are ineffective and out of their depth bringing very little to the club other than disarray and zero commercial funds..."
Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:54 pm
"Time for people who can help to step up then?? Instead of squabbling and not picking.... This season isnt gone yet but something needs doing now and you guys on the old Exec Committee really need to stand up and be counted and try rally around and do something positive.... This BOD are out of their depth, absolutely and I've said it for a long time... commercially they've crippled the club... So time for change."
Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:14 pm
"No assertion at all... As a potential sponsor and knowing several sponsors, I get tokd certain things. Ultimately the commercial side is way off where it needs to be and very little being done to eradicate this,"
And I am the one with issues? need we go on?'"
Yes we do.... How is this me boasting or bragging?? Think you need to reread them.... I'd happily help and have done before but I sadly dont have the financial clout to make much difference.
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| Quote ="Dbvada"I know a number of people who use this forum think they know me and that I was in some way connected to a certain group involved with the club.
Can I say that you are entirely wrong. I have never been anything other than a local player of the game (not very well) and a fan who now sits at most games as I’m too old to stand. On a financial note I struggle to afford the cost of entry now that I only work a few shifts each week and could never afford investing, although I did once buy a brick at Thrum Hall.
I have strong views, all of them my own, from watching the club for over fifty years. Whilst the Club is not broke it remains poorly run and I will call it as I see it.'"
You did seem to know a lot about when "your boys" tried to take over though, infact I believe you posted some stuff that were talked about in confidence which might be why people put two and two together.........
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| Chris_Smith First you tell us you are /were a potential sponsor, quote " As a potential sponsor and knowing several sponsors" (sic), and privvy to certain conversations, now you claim 'not a pot to &!$$ in'.
Maybe the commercial side is way off kilter, but unless you can alter it physically, profitably, or even do better by offering to use your superior experience, the BoD would welcome you. do like the rest of us, make comments by all means, but generalise them and not 'I know something you don't know', but cannot back it up. Reread your own posts.
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| G F B thanks for your input.
Dbvada I don't have a grudge to hold, but you did make certain points that led people to make assumptions of your involvement and connectivity to 'a certain group'.
As for a fan who attends matches that is one up on me, due to my life choice I am not in a position to attend live games. Some on here have argued that as I don't attend matches, I should not have an opinion or voice. unless the administrator deems otherwise, I will also offer my thoughts however feeble they might seem to other people.
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| Quote ="the fax in asia"Chris_Smith First you tell us you are /were a potential sponsor, quote " As a potential sponsor and knowing several sponsors" (sic), and privvy to certain conversations, now you claim 'not a pot to &!$$ in'.
Maybe the commercial side is way off kilter, but unless you can alter it physically, profitably, or even do better by offering to use your superior experience, the BoD would welcome you. do like the rest of us, make comments by all means, but generalise them and not 'I know something you don't know', but cannot back it up. Reread your own posts.'"
Theres a big difference between not a pot to in and the financial clout needed to give the club the boost it needs... Not sure what your problem is?? I don't have that sort of money, wish I did... a sponsor injects monies from a couple of hundred quid to thousands and I claim nothing, I never post anything that hasnt been told to me or I've seen for myself. Whether you believe me or not is of no consequence to me at all... I couldn't care less, as a forum everyone I believe as a right to say within reason what they want.
To get the club back on track I'd say it needs a £200-300k cash injection to get it competitive or next season will be very tight on a much reduced budget....
I do find you quite offensive with your comments but happy to answer your vitriol as you try twist things to suit your own ends...
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| Chris_Smith RE quote First you tell us you are /were a potential sponsor, quote " As a potential sponsor and knowing several sponsors" and being 'tokd things' .
You may find me offensive and vitriolic, but it is you who now looks foolish.
I am done playing you little games you have had your 5 minutes of fame.
And NO I DON"T BELIEVE YOU.
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| Quote ="the fax in asia"G F B thanks for your input.
Dbvada I don't have a grudge to hold, but you did make certain points that led people to make assumptions of your involvement and connectivity to 'a certain group'.
As for a fan who attends matches that is one up on me, due to my life choice I am not in a position to attend live games. Some on here have argued that as I don't attend matches, I should not have an opinion or voice. unless the administrator deems otherwise, I will also offer my thoughts however feeble they might seem to other people.'"
It dosen't matter whether you attend games or not. This is a forum for Fax fans and anyone can come on and say owt they want for me. Up The Fax!
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| Quote ="the fax in asia"Chris_Smith RE quote First you tell us you are /were a potential sponsor, quote " As a potential sponsor and knowing several sponsors" and being 'tokd things' .
You may find me offensive and vitriolic, but it is you who now looks foolish.
I am done playing you little games you have had your 5 minutes of fame.
And NO I DON"T BELIEVE YOU.'"
Whatever...
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"It dosen't matter whether you attend games or not. This is a forum for Fax fans and anyone can come on and say owt they want for me. Up The Fax!'"
Yeah spot on. It does not mean we all have to agree or even get along but apart from opposition fans we have the thing in coomon that we all want the best for Fax.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Yeah spot on. It does not mean we all have to agree or even get along but apart from opposition fans we have the thing in coomon that we all want the best for Fax.'"
Absolutely spot on...
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"It dosen't matter whether you attend games or not. This is a forum for Fax fans and anyone can come on and say owt they want for me. Up The Fax!'"
Absolutely. We all have different views and opinions.
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| Absolutely, absolutely how you guys put up with some of the rubbish I come out with is testament to that.
Billy Billy for everyone.
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| Quote ="faxcar"Absolutely, absolutely how you guys put up with some of the rubbish I come out with is testament to that.
Billy Billy for everyone.'"
Fax, we all talk and post rubbish on here, it’s just that some rubbish is better than others.Billy Billy to you .
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